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<<until a tarry stool is passed. This should look darker than normal stool,

often black and less formed. This represents gallbladder sludge and the flush is

ended when this occurs.>>

This is what I'm getting right now and that's great...However it doesn't mention

anything here about the stones being " expelled " and that's what we want..This

cleanse is for people who need to be careful about " fasting " I guess; or those

who don't want to fast..and like " fast foods " ..

melville...

[ ] Liver Flushes

Hi everyone,

Regarding liver flushes, a girl from another list that I am on shared

this great information. (I believe her doctor was Dr. Sherry .)

She also posted information from her polarity therapist, which I will

post under Dr. 's instructions for a liver flush.

Kind regards,

Trudy

" When I do my next one, I will simply use my eniro docs flush which is

1/2 ounce lime juice and 1/2 extra virgin olive oil drink daily for one

week. The next week, double the amount to an ounce of each daily. By the

third week, drink a mixture of 1 1/2 ounces each daily until a tarry

stool is passed. This should look darker than normal stool, often black

and less formed. This represents gallbladder sludge and the flush is

ended when this occurs. This flush can be done without regard to food! "

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Hi Mel,

Oh, it sounds like you are off to a good start already. Be sure you let us know

the results of your liver cleanse. I'm unable to fast because I am diabetic.

The last time I tried Hulda 's cleanse I became very sick. Therefore, I

think that Dr. 's alternative is a good one for me.

Kind regards,

Trudy

Message: 13

Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 23:27:31 -0800

From: " Mel " <jonah@...>

Subject: Re: Liver Flushes

<<until a tarry stool is passed. This should look darker than normal stool,

often black and less formed. This represents gallbladder sludge and the flush is

ended when this occurs.>>

This is what I'm getting right now and that's great...However it doesn't mention

anything here about the stones being " expelled " and that's what we want..This

cleanse is for people who need to be careful about " fasting " I guess; or those

who don't want to fast..and like " fast foods " ..

melville...

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Hiya all

Anybody know how many people get a stone stuck in a duct requiring

emergency surgery when doing this liver/gallbladder flush?

mjh

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> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:41:46 -0800

> From: " Mel " <jonah@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Liver Flushes

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> Just about to do the last grapefuit drink before bed and already feeling

> whoozy as I've popped a coupla Melatonin capsules..HOpefully I'll hear some

> " ROLLING STONES " tonight..Harharhar.. ;-D

> melville ;-D

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Just about to do the last grapefuit drink before bed and already feeling whoozy

as I've popped a coupla Melatonin capsules..HOpefully I'll hear some " ROLLING

STONES " tonight..Harharhar.. ;-D

melville ;-D

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[ ] Re: Liver Flushes

Hi Mel,

Oh, it sounds like you are off to a good start already. Be sure you let us know

the results of your liver cleanse. I'm unable to fast because I am diabetic.

The last time I tried Hulda 's cleanse I became very sick. Therefore, I

think that Dr. 's alternative is a good one for me.

Kind regards,

Trudy

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Proverbs 10..

[6] Blessings are upon the head of the just: but violence covereth the mouth of

the wicked..

NOt the least bit worried!!!..

melville..;-)

ps.....Mission accomplished...

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> Just about to do the last grapefuit drink before bed and already feeling

> whoozy as I've popped a coupla Melatonin capsules..HOpefully I'll hear some

> " ROLLING STONES " tonight..Harharhar.. ;-D

> melville ;-D

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Hi MJH,

Nice to hear from you, again! I don't know what the stats are for stones

getting stuck in the ducts, but a lady from my health food store (who used to be

an MD) told me to take Wild Yam for a week before doing the liver cleanse. I

understand that this is to help open the ducts, so the stones don't get stuck.

Oh yes, from my studies, a person can also add artichoke, along with milk

thistle and dandelion to help aid the liver. (But I'm sure you already know

that.)

Kind regards,

Trudy

Message: 2

Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 06:41:02 EST

From: foxhillers@...

Subject: Re: liver flushes

Hiya all

Anybody know how many people get a stone stuck in a duct requiring

emergency surgery when doing this liver/gallbladder flush?

mjh

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Hi ,

I did about 5 of the liver flushes in a row. I think they are

beneficial in general, since I felt really good afterward. The olive oil

is not very pleasant, and a lot of people don't like the epsom salts,

but I didn't have a problem drinking that. If you choose to do one, I

would wait a long time in between them, because I suspect they are hard

on the adrenals. It may have happened anyway, but after my last one I

came down with bad adrenal symptoms. I had been doing flushes two weeks

apart. I don't know if they are suitable for mercury patients, as I

didn't know I had mercury tox when I started.

Bernadette

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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:20:16 -0000

From: " trust20895 " <trustinthelord@...>

Subject: Liver flushes,Question

Can Andy or anyone answer why a Mercury toxic person should not do

a liver cleanse I have finished 5 months of DMPS, and would like to

do a liver cleanse.

(Dr.s' 2 to 3 day flush! with olive oil, grapefruit & epson

salts)

What do folks here think?

Thanks

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Dear Bernadette,

I started the cleaning protocol doing chelation therapy first. I've asked

s Moritz on Curezone about the fact that this to have been safe or

not. He replied saying that he's aware of chelation but he is used to

suggest herbs like cilantro and pascalite clay for the same purpose. By

logic I would say that probably would have been better to start from the

liver and kidney cleanse but even my naturopath was not aware of s

liver and kidney procedure as well as at that time I wasn't joining this

list....so what should I say....it's done....could be that my liver and

kidney are even more clogged with mercury...the only thing I can say is that

I got few improvement of my candida status even after chelation. My

naturopath said at first that mercury levels in my tissues were extremely

dangerous and the intoxication was huge so he wanted me to be chelated.

Before starting with chelation we tested kidneys functionality by means of a

test called " creatinine clearance " . He understood from the result that my

kidneys were well functioning and so we went on with chelation. Same for my

husband but with lead in his case.

Hope this will help

Simona

Liver flushes

Hi,

Does anyone know if liver flushes are safe for someone with mercury

toxicity and is chelating with DMSA and using GSE for yeast, both of

which are hard on the liver? I also have adrenal problems. Should I wait

on the flushes and just do the coffee enemas with a supplement to help

my liver?

Thanks,

Bernadette

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>

> Has anyone tried liver flushes? Did they help? How did you feel

during

> the flush? I would like to hear any experiences, positive,

negative or

> neutral.

>

> thanks,

> Bernadette

I feel burned out on this topic. I would suggest that

you search for " liver flush " on the list oxyplus. It

has been discussed there in the last week. The majority

view on that list is that liver flushes are great stuff

and Hulda 's is the one to use. However there is

also a post in the current thread from someone who

had EXTREMELY bad results from a liver flush.

The list bowel cleanse may also be helpful, I have not

read that list in a long while so I can't be sure.

This is not meant to say this is " improper " here, I'm

just making other suggestions because I'm personally

tired of writing about it just now.

Oh, and adult-metal-chelation discusses liver cleanses.

I've done a few-- I use Schulze's stuff. I'm generally

in the " neutral " results area.

good wishes,

Moria

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Hi Moria,

Thanks,Moria for the information. I knew people had good results with

the flush for candida, but I never knew if anyone with mercury toxicity

tried them. I did try it this weekend, using 's recipe. It went

very well. The epsom salts weren't that bad, but the olive

oil/grapefruit juice I had to choke down. I did have bad nausea in the

middle of the night,but it passed quickly, and in the morning passed

around 250 stones, as they said. I noticed I felt more energetic and

clear headed, although that could be due to the fast as well. All in

all, not a bad experience, possible beneficial. I plan to do it again in

3 or 4 weeks, because they say it can take as many as 6 flushes to begin

to see results.I am glad I tried it before I saw your response about the

really bad reaction, I probably wouldn't have done it. They say you can

have a bad reaction if you don't have a colonic or enema after, because

the toxic stuff you release can sit in your colon. If I get good (or

bad) results, I will post them.

thanks,

Bernadette

>

> Has anyone tried liver flushes? Did they help? How did you feel

during

> the flush?

I feel burned out on this topic. I would suggest that

you search for " liver flush " on the list oxyplus. It

has been discussed there in the last week. The majority

view on that list is that liver flushes are great stuff

and Hulda 's is the one to use. However there is

also a post in the current thread from someone who

had EXTREMELY bad results from a liver flush.

The list bowel cleanse may also be helpful, I have not

read that list in a long while so I can't be sure.

This is not meant to say this is " improper " here, I'm

just making other suggestions because I'm personally

tired of writing about it just now.

Oh, and adult-metal-chelation discusses liver cleanses.

I've done a few-- I use Schulze's stuff. I'm generally

in the " neutral " results area.

good wishes,

Moria

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> Hi Moria,

>

> Thanks,Moria for the information. I knew people had good results

with

> the flush for candida, but I never knew if anyone with mercury

toxicity

> tried them.

that is interesting, I don't really associate it as a treatment

for candida at all--- but certainly all sorts of people

(including w/ candida) have clogged up liver....

> I did try it this weekend, using 's recipe. It went

> very well. The epsom salts weren't that bad, but the olive

> oil/grapefruit juice I had to choke down.

(I've never used the one.)

> I did have bad nausea in the

> middle of the night,but it passed quickly, and in the morning

passed

> around 250 stones, as they said. I noticed I felt more energetic

and

> clear headed, although that could be due to the fast as well. All

in

> all, not a bad experience, possible beneficial. I plan to do it

again in

> 3 or 4 weeks, because they say it can take as many as 6 flushes to

begin

> to see results.I am glad I tried it before I saw your response

about the

> really bad reaction, I probably wouldn't have done it. They say

you can

> have a bad reaction if you don't have a colonic or enema after,

that could be, and that may be a relevant consideration,

however, I also think that whenever there is something

that people SOMETIMES have bad reactions to, there is

a lot of motivation to correlate it to SOMETHING (anything).

So I would bet there are numerous theories. I don't know

if I'm right, it is just my guess. (There are numerous

theories as to why SOME people have bad reactions to

IV DMPS, for example, also. The " dose timing " thing is

a popular theory on this list, there are other theories.....)

because

> the toxic stuff you release can sit in your colon. If I get good

(or

> bad) results, I will post them.

okay.

Moria

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Hi Mandy

I can relate to how you feel. I also felt scared about doing it. And you need to

know that whereas

it doesnt cause any pain, you are unwell for around 24 hours - but hell - we've

both had kids and its nothing like that and we both survived.

According to the original author who published this 'recipe' for the liver flush

(Hulda ), one needs to

do 4 - 6 flushes before enough stones are removed to notice a significant health

improvement. She says

one needs to remove around 2000 stones in all. (most of them are the size of

split peas or smaller).

There is also speculation as to whether these are really liver/gallstones or

just soapstones formed from

the oil/lemon juice mixture when they mix with other gut secretions.

I couldn't say for certain if I experienced an improvement from doing the

flushes - however I have

removed a total of about 300 stones altogether - not 2000.

I'm also a 48 year old mum with young children. If you do the flush, you need to

have 24 hours where you can just lay down and watch videos - thats difficult

with kids etc. I started min at 6pm on a Saturday (hence 8 hours was sleep time)

and was recovered by 6pm the following night.

Helen

Liver Flushes

Hi, I'm new and have never posted before, but am wondering what kinds

of changes you guys have seen from the liver flushes you've done. Do

you feel noticeably better? Any obvious physical changes, or just

generally better overall?

I haven't tried one yet--haven't had the guts!--but am sure I need

to.

By the way, I'm a 47-yr-old mom with 3 smaller kids, one with autism

that I feel sure was caused initially by mold. So I am here doing

research, for him, and for the rest of our family as well.

Thanks!

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