Fw: Bilateral Mammograms & Bilateral Ultrasound

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Lea ~

Remember the huge tumor I had removed that I keep talking about? The one that did not show up on 5 xrays or 3 mri's?????

They did note a seroma in the right side..........and upon excision , it was so big it filled a urine cup to the top ! took 6 hours to remove. The doctor and the pathologist both labeled it " thick rubbery ovid cystic silicone filled mass................" So, I would insist on all the pain in there and insist they go in and remove all the junk in there. There was also gangrene and muscle attached to the tumor. It was almost too big to fit into the urine cup ! ! !

Love you ~ DedeSee what's free at AOL.com.

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Lea ~

That is what happened to me ! ! implants put in on top of silicone spillage, all thru my armpits under the muscle.......I was fortunate to have explant enbloc with drain tubes 8 months later, then 5 more surgeries opening me up to remove crap. I was in horrible shape, and wasnt expected to live long, that is why I finally said ok to the salines......I was gonna be dead before they were...........NOT, here I am still truckin ~ Now I cant wait to have these out........and I am gonna live a very long time ! ! For some reason God has work for me to do here.........he keeps carrying me through all these fatal things...........

Lea, you will be a whole different person when you get that junk out of you. You will be so much better, you will amaze yourself. Love you ~ Dede See what's free at AOL.com.

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Lea ~

So sad, such malicious ignorance and greed.......

love you Lea ~ DSee what's free at AOL.com.

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Dearest Ladies:

This morning I was going through some of my old records, and look what I have found. This is after the second plastic surgeon had supposedly cleaned out the capsules.

My doctor from Cross wanted some information before he does another MRI. I have continued to be so sick, and Rogene, Lynda, and Patty have all told me that this garbage should have been removed. What to do...no doctor wants to clean me out. What has happened to the post-surgical seroma in my right breast? Every time that I have had an ultrasound or a mammogram, they keep telling me that it has to be repeated every six months! Could someone please comment on this.

Sending love to all...Lea

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Dear Lea,

I am so sorry that you have to put all of the pieces

together yourself from all of your files, but admire

how proactive you are for the sake of your health. I

wish I knew more about the seromas, but all I know of

is that the surgeons I have consulted with so far have

told me that seromas come from removing the capsules..

Katy:)

--- Lea <devans@...> wrote:

> Dearest Ladies:

>

> This morning I was going through some of my old

> records, and look what I have found. This is after

> the second plastic surgeon had supposedly cleaned

> out the capsules.

>

> My doctor from Cross wanted some information

> before he does another MRI. I have continued to be

> so sick, and Rogene, Lynda, and Patty have all told

> me that this garbage should have been removed. What

> to do...no doctor wants to clean me out. What has

> happened to the post-surgical seroma in my right

> breast? Every time that I have had an ultrasound or

> a mammogram, they keep telling me that it has to be

> repeated every six months! Could someone please

> comment on this.

>

> Sending love to all...Lea

>

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Lea, IMHO, it's not about what the doctors WANT to do, but what YOU want done. . . . You should have been cleaned out the first time . . . If all that stuff showing up on your mammogram is remaining capsule - or any kind of debris - it should be removed it you want it out, and if there's reasonable expectations that you could survive the surgery. . . . I hope they will clean you out! . . . Remember the doctors are working for you. They don't own your body and should not be making decisions for you! I'm convinced that whatever is there is a source of continuing inflammation - that for you to get better, it must be removed. They've tried everything short of cleaning you out - but none of it has brought your health back. I think it's time they did the obvious! Love, Rogene

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Honey, it is the other way around. The plastic surgeon did not remove my capsules in the first surgery, and that is what has caused the seromas. I lost my left breast when the second PS tried to remove the old capsules. He found a large seroma in my left breast. The seromas are filled with the garbage that was left in me...a bit like a cyst.

Katy, my case is so different, so please do not compare your case to mine. I had two sets of silicone breast implants. The garbage from the first set of implants was still in me when the PS put in the poly implants! I wish that my story could have been left on Ilena's site.

Take care...love you.......Lea

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Dear Lea,I am so sorry that you have to put all of the piecestogether yourself from all of your files, but admirehow proactive you are for the sake of your health. Iwish I knew more about the seromas, but all I know ofis that the surgeons I have consulted with so far havetold me that seromas come from removing the capsules..Katy:)--- Lea <devanscompusmart (DOT) ab.ca> wrote:> Dearest Ladies:> > This morning I was going through some of my old> records, and look what I have found. This is after> the second plastic surgeon had supposedly cleaned> out the capsules.> > My doctor from Cross wanted some information> before he does another MRI. I have continued to be> so sick, and Rogene, Lynda, and Patty have all told> me that this garbage should have been removed. What> to do...no doctor wants to clean me out. What has> happened to the post-surgical seroma in my right> breast? Every time that I have had an ultrasound or> a mammogram, they keep telling me that it has to be> repeated every six months! Could someone please> comment on this.> > Sending love to all...Lea> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````> > > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new at http://mrd.mail./try_beta?.intl=ca

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Darling Rogene:

When I found this report this morning, I became quite upset. It seems as if my doctors have not been listening to me; however, they are now. My doctor from Cross Cancer sent me to a plastic surgeon, and he said that because of my medical-legal history there was nothing he could do. A friend of mine called me a few days ago, and this same PS cleaned her out and did a lift! She is so happy with the results, but she is a friend of this doctor's! He is a burn specialist here at the UofA, and he told us that breast implants are safe. Guess where they get their funding? %^ & ^%(*

Thank you so very much for your support...love you...Lea

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Lea,

IMHO, it's not about what the doctors WANT to do, but what YOU want done. . . . You should have been cleaned out the first time . . . If all that stuff showing up on your mammogram is remaining capsule - or any kind of debris - it should be removed it you want it out, and if there's reasonable expectations that you could survive the surgery. . . .

I hope they will clean you out! . . . Remember the doctors are working for you. They don't own your body and should not be making decisions for you!

I'm convinced that whatever is there is a source of continuing inflammation - that for you to get better, it must be removed.

They've tried everything short of cleaning you out - but none of it has brought your health back. I think it's time they did the obvious!

Love,

Rogene

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Lea,

Hmm, it is so interesting that the surgeons I have

consulted with used the seroma risk as a reason to

convince me NOT to remove my capsules.. I hate that

you have gone through so much.. Silicone and poly!! I

will pray that you will find someone to clean out your

one side, and I hope that it will make all the

difference for your health Lea! Thank you for all of

the guidance!

Katy:)

--- Lea <devans@...> wrote:

> Honey, it is the other way around. The plastic

> surgeon did not remove my capsules in the first

> surgery, and that is what has caused the seromas. I

> lost my left breast when the second PS tried to

> remove the old capsules. He found a large seroma in

> my left breast. The seromas are filled with the

> garbage that was left in me...a bit like a cyst.

>

> Katy, my case is so different, so please do not

> compare your case to mine. I had two sets of

> silicone breast implants. The garbage from the first

> set of implants was still in me when the PS put in

> the poly implants! I wish that my story could have

> been left on Ilena's site.

>

> Take care...love you.......Lea

>

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> Mammograms & Bilateral Ultrasound

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> Dear Lea,

>

> I am so sorry that you have to put all of the

> pieces

> together yourself from all of your files, but

> admire

> how proactive you are for the sake of your

> health. I

> wish I knew more about the seromas, but all I

> know of

> is that the surgeons I have consulted with so

> far have

> told me that seromas come from removing the

> capsules..

>

> Katy:)

> --- Lea <devans@...> wrote:

>

> > Dearest Ladies:

> >

> > This morning I was going through some of my

> old

> > records, and look what I have found. This is

> after

> > the second plastic surgeon had supposedly

> cleaned

> > out the capsules.

> >

> > My doctor from Cross wanted some information

> > before he does another MRI. I have continued

> to be

> > so sick, and Rogene, Lynda, and Patty have all

> told

> > me that this garbage should have been removed.

> What

> > to do...no doctor wants to clean me out. What

> has

> > happened to the post-surgical seroma in my

> right

> > breast? Every time that I have had an

> ultrasound or

> > a mammogram, they keep telling me that it has

> to be

> > repeated every six months! Could someone

> please

> > comment on this.

> >

> > Sending love to all...Lea

> >

> >

>

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Lea, I'd tell that doctor that you know better . . . That he did an excellent job on a friend of his . . . And tell him you expect no less! . . . Your legal history has nothing to do with it! . . . You can expect to sign papers exempting him from any liablity for anything other than gross misconduct. Don't be put off by these doctors so easily. They're not Gods! . . . God will decide who lives or dies, not the doctors! Love, Rogene

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Oh, Rogene, we would never go to this rotten plastic surgeon again. He really insulted us when we saw him. He sees us as a trouble, told him off because he did not cover me up on his table. He told us that he had seen women who looked much worse than me....re: just one breast! Then he continued to tell us that he is planning to implant women again. Could it be too late to clean me out?

Love you.........Lea

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Lea,

I'd tell that doctor that you know better . . . That he did an excellent job on a friend of his . . . And tell him you expect no less! . . . Your legal history has nothing to do with it! . . . You can expect to sign papers exempting him from any liablity for anything other than gross misconduct.

Don't be put off by these doctors so easily. They're not Gods! . . . God will decide who lives or dies, not the doctors!

Love,

Rogene

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Lea, If you're walking and talking, it's not to late to get the junk cleaned out! Please insist that it be done! . . . Tomorrow, if not the day before! Love, Rogene

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Lea . . . Oh well, you need a better doctor than that anyway! It's never to late to take toxic deposits out of your body! . . . Please do it! I know you love your doctors . . . but they are really letting you down by not addressing the obvious while giving you a host of medications to manage the symptoms! Love, Rogene

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Lea ~

I should say, you all have had so many major challenges, and all at once ! ! look how strong you all are to have made it through all of that.........and still working thru so much ! ! To think you have been so ill through all of this and still going strong, you are a true survivor. I know you and will have your true peace and happiness.

I have a question for you, you may know. It is about gag orders.

What are the laws reguarding them? Are they a lifetime law for the one gagged? or is it for a certain amount of years? Do gag orders only affect the person that signs it, or its family members too? If someone were to steal records and make them public in some way, how does that affect the person that was gagged and robbed? If a person that has been gagged in the past, gets brain fog, or has alsheimers and what was gagged gets out, due to a brain problems, what happens then?

Just curious ~ Love you Lea and Superman..........hug each other for me ! See what's free at AOL.com.

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Hello Lea, I know you are in bed right now, and I hope you are in a very deep relaxing sleep. I am so glad to hear your pain has let up. I know how hard it is when you go thru several days of intense pain. It can really knock you for a loop for several days. It really drains me, so with what you are dealing with, I know it is tough. Sending you lots of love, and healing energy, and many Blessings ~ DedeSee what's free at AOL.com.

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Lea ~

The scar capsules can grow as the body continues to attack the foreign material in the capsules. As you have read in Nans removal of lymph nodes, even tho her implants were saline, there is silicone in her lymph nodes, because the outter shell flecks off debris particles as the body attacks them, and they enter your body and go where they wish. One big place is the scar capsules, the scar capsules also grow cysts, and all kinds of bacteria and fungal organisms. They can grow calcifications in there too. As the body is attacking the scar caps they can grow further scar tissue around them for protection. That is why your body doesnt have the energy to fight other things, they are too busy fighting the little devil in your chest ! !

Love you~DedeSee what's free at AOL.com.

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Lea ~

Yeah ! ! I am so glad you feel better today ! ! hooray ! ! ! I hope this

B-12 absorbs well today and gives you energy ! ! Sending you lots of love and hugs and healing energies !

Love you all bunches ! ! DedeSee what's free at AOL.com.

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Thank you, Rogene:

I agree with you, but we have to find a surgeon who will do the surgery. Doctors who do mastecomies would be great, and then a plastic surgeon could do a little lift. My let breast is mostly skin and my right breast might weigh 1 pound! Poor Dede, and Traci must have to suffer with such big breasts.

Question....Do the capsules grow if they are left in the body?

Love you....Lea

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Lea,

If I remember right, some of our women have had H-pylori, but have gotten past it after their implants were removed.

I think Dede is onto something . . . fungal organisms ARE likely feeding the H-pylori - especially since your immune system stays weaked after fighting the junk left behind from your implants.

You may never be totally healthy - but, if you're like everyone else we've seen come through here, you should do much better once you've been properly cleaned out.

Love

Rogene

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Thank you, Dede:

When I was doing research, I am sure that I found an article that showed that capsules do grow. You have answered my question and that could be why my right breast seems to be growing. When we gain weight our breasts get bigger too....mine do. The left breast was removed; however, there were cysts and calcifications in that breast as well!

Honey, I am off to the shower, because I have my B12 shot this morning. We think that the ugly little bug is dead, or has gone to a safe place in my body. When he feels safe to come out again, we will be ready. I feel so much better today.

Honey have a happy day...we love you lots...Lea and Superman

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Lea ~

The scar capsules can grow as the body continues to attack the foreign material in the capsules. As you have read in Nans removal of lymph nodes, even tho her implants were saline, there is silicone in her lymph nodes, because the outter shell flecks off debris particles as the body attacks them, and they enter your body and go where they wish. One big place is the scar capsules, the scar capsules also grow cysts, and all kinds of bacteria and fungal organisms. They can grow calcifications in there too. As the body is attacking the scar caps they can grow further scar tissue around them for protection. That is why your body doesnt have the energy to fight other things, they are too busy fighting the little devil in your chest ! !

Love you~Dede

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Lea, Yes, capsules can grow . . . not with healthy tissue, but with fungal organisms and toxins. . . Think of what happens when you get an infection on your skin. . . Pus accumulates, the tissue swells while the body fights to get rid of the infection. When the source of the infection can't be removed, it festers and festers . . . you body wears down from the constant struggle. . . . Why your doctor's can't figure this out, I can't imagine! They've seen you go through enough for 100 people. . . The only difference between them and you is that you have some capsules that are reinfecting you as fast as the medications

can knock them down. Love, Rogene

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Lea,

You know Dr. Blais so well....if you ask him, I am sure he will tell

you what you want to know! He wrote that great article about

retained scar tissue, and if I understand it correctly, the answer

to your question is YES, they can.

Please read his article. It is in our files section and our links

section.

Here's one to get you started:

/files/Explant%

20info%20and%20why%20to%20get%20capsulectomy/

Love you! I hope you can get those remaining capsules out of your

body soon!

Love,

Patty

>

> Thank you, Rogene:

>

> I agree with you, but we have to find a surgeon who will do the

surgery. Doctors who do mastecomies would be great, and then a

plastic surgeon could do a little lift. My let breast is mostly skin

and my right breast might weigh 1 pound! Poor Dede, and Traci must

have to suffer with such big breasts.

>

> Question....Do the capsules grow if they are left in the body?

>

> Love you....Lea

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> Lea,

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> If I remember right, some of our women have had H-pylori, but

have gotten past it after their implants were removed.

>

> I think Dede is onto something . . . fungal organisms ARE

likely feeding the H-pylori - especially since your immune system

stays weaked after fighting the junk left behind from your implants.

>

> You may never be totally healthy - but, if you're like

everyone else we've seen come through here, you should do much

better once you've been properly cleaned out.

>

> Love

>

> Rogene

>

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Dearest Rogene:

My doctor knows of a surgeon who will clean me out or just do a mastectomy. He said that he works out of Cross Cancer, does many mastectomies, and is the best surgeon here. He will have to work with the most recent MRI. We have hope; however, I forgot to ask if I would survive a surgical procedure like this!

Thank you, sweet Rogene....love to all.....Lea

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Lea,

Yes, capsules can grow . . . not with healthy tissue, but with fungal organisms and toxins. . . Think of what happens when you get an infection on your skin. . . Pus accumulates, the tissue swells while the body fights to get rid of the infection.

When the source of the infection can't be removed, it festers and festers . . . you body wears down from the constant struggle. . . .

Why your doctor's can't figure this out, I can't imagine! They've seen you go through enough for 100 people. . . The only difference between them and you is that you have some capsules that are reinfecting you as fast as the medications can knock them down.

Love,

Rogene

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Dear Lea, I'm so glad to hear your doctor will support you in getting those toxins cleaned out! Wonderful! With everything you have already survived, this will be a piece of cake! . . . It's time you reclaimed your life from those RATS! Down with the RATS! Life is going to be good again! Love, Rogene

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Darling Patty;

I am so sick today, all I do is sleep, and now the nausea has hit me. We know that you are all correct about the mess in my chest. Dr. Blais will help me, but it is hard to get to talk to him. The pain is gone, and I think that the massive dose of antifungals could be causing the nausea...I had the same time yesterday.

Thank you for this article, but I am going back to bed. My doctor told me not to mention silicone, because the surgeon might become defensive. He will talk to this surgeon before I meet with him.

Love you lots....Lea

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Re: Fw: Bilateral Mammograms & Bilateral Ultrasound> > > > Lea,> > If I remember right, some of our women have had H-pylori, but have gotten past it after their implants were removed. > > I think Dede is onto something . . . fungal organisms ARE likely feeding the H-pylori - especially since your immune system stays weaked after fighting the junk left behind from your implants. > > You may never be totally healthy - but, if you're like everyone else we've seen come through here, you should do much better once you've been properly cleaned out.> > Love> > Rogene>

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Thank you, honey....you found one of our RATS....love you.......Lea

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Dear Lea,

I'm so glad to hear your doctor will support you in getting those toxins cleaned out! Wonderful!

With everything you have already survived, this will be a piece of cake! . . .

It's time you reclaimed your life from those RATS!

Down with the RATS!

Life is going to be good again!

Love,

Rogene