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Micki,

Congrats for you and your mom. I hope all goes well but the important

thing to remember is patience, patience, patience. When or if a person

goes through a herx is very individual, it can happen almost right away,

after a few days, weeks or months or, best of all, never. Just tell

your mom to rest as much as possible when she feels bad, try to watch

her diet and drink tons of water to help flush out the toxins. The

faster you get the toxins out, generally the less discomfort. I'm no

expert on the clindamycin but I gather most people take it orally if

they can't get the IV's. I've heard getting it IM is rather painful,

which may have something to do with why they get it orally instead.

Best of luck.

a Peden

PRYAH@... wrote:

>

> From: PRYAH@...

>

> Hi everyone!

> Well my mom is finally on her way! Her Dr. wouldn't go for the iv's though

> but he did put her on Zithromax 500mg everyday for ten days then he is going

to

> start the every other day dosing. Yesterday she had quite a bad day, but we're

> not sure it was a herx. or just a bad day. How early can we expect a herx.

reaction? We tried to go with a Dr. that was experienced with doing the

antibiotic therapy but they thought they were too far away or we had to wait too

long. If she needs more antibiotic treatment then we thought of asking him to

give her the clindamycin IM has anyone gone that route?

> Thanks for all your support!! We can't wait to get our mom back! but we are

willing to wait as long as it takes. At least we have some hope now.

>

> Thanks everyone

> Micki

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Micki,

With some luck she may not get a herx. I never did. Someone on this list

mentioned that a herx will be more severe symptoms of the disease, whereas

side effects of the drug will be new and different. That seems to fit my

experience. Others will comment on what a herx is like, I am sure.

a C.

rheumatic my mom

> From: PRYAH@...

>

> Hi everyone!

> Well my mom is finally on her way! Her Dr. wouldn't go for the iv's

though

> but he did put her on Zithromax 500mg everyday for ten days then he is

going to

> start the every other day dosing. Yesterday she had quite a bad day, but

we're

> not sure it was a herx. or just a bad day. How early can we expect a herx.

reaction? We tried to go with a Dr. that was experienced with doing the

antibiotic therapy but they thought they were too far away or we had to wait

too long. If she needs more antibiotic treatment then we thought of asking

him to give her the clindamycin IM has anyone gone that route?

> Thanks for all your support!! We can't wait to get our mom back! but we

are willing to wait as long as it takes. At least we have some hope now.

>

> Thanks everyone

> Micki

>

>

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>From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

>

>Micki,

>Congrats for you and your mom. I hope all goes well but the important

>thing to remember is patience, patience, patience. When or if a person

>goes through a herx is very individual, it can happen almost right away,

>after a few days, weeks or months or, best of all, never. Just tell

>your mom to rest as much as possible when she feels bad, try to watch

>her diet and drink tons of water to help flush out the toxins. The

>faster you get the toxins out, generally the less discomfort. I'm no

>expert on the clindamycin but I gather most people take it orally if

>they can't get the IV's. I've heard getting it IM is rather painful, I get

clindamycin injections, and if it is administered slowly - like 30 to 40 seconds

- there is no pain at all (unless you count the needle prick, which is never fun

under any circumstances!). I get the shots in my hips, which is much easier

than the arm (larger muscle handles the stuff better). If someone is

experiencing pain with injections, I suggest they ask the nurse/person doing the

injecting to slow down, and maybe change the location of shot from arm to

butt..... This is my experience, anyway..........

>which may have something to do with why they get it orally instead.

>Best of luck.

>a Peden

>

>PRYAH@... wrote:

>>

>> From: PRYAH@...

>>

>> Hi everyone!

>> Well my mom is finally on her way! Her Dr. wouldn't go for the iv's though

>> but he did put her on Zithromax 500mg everyday for ten days then he is going

to

>> start the every other day dosing. Yesterday she had quite a bad day, but

we're

>> not sure it was a herx. or just a bad day. How early can we expect a herx.

reaction? We tried to go with a Dr. that was experienced with doing the

antibiotic therapy but they thought they were too far away or we had to wait too

long. If she needs more antibiotic treatment then we thought of asking him to

give her the clindamycin IM has anyone gone that route?

>> Thanks for all your support!! We can't wait to get our mom back! but we are

willing to wait as long as it takes. At least we have some hope now.

>>

>> Thanks everyone

>> Micki

>>

>

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Micki,

I did IM in Feb 98 before IV's in 10/98 so if you want more info please

E mail me privately

cooky

PRYAH@... wrote:

>

> From: PRYAH@...

>

> Hi everyone!

> Well my mom is finally on her way! Her Dr. wouldn't go for the iv's though

> but he did put her on Zithromax 500mg everyday for ten days then he is going

to

> start the every other day dosing. Yesterday she had quite a bad day, but we're

> not sure it was a herx. or just a bad day. How early can we expect a herx.

reaction? We tried to go with a Dr. that was experienced with doing the

antibiotic therapy but they thought they were too far away or we had to wait too

long. If she needs more antibiotic treatment then we thought of asking him to

give her the clindamycin IM has anyone gone that route?

> Thanks for all your support!! We can't wait to get our mom back! but we are

willing to wait as long as it takes. At least we have some hope now.

>

> Thanks everyone

> Micki

>

>

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Hi,Donna, It has been a while since we first communicated. That is great that

your Mom is getting ready for the AP. You will have to let us know how it goes.

In the meantime, sunshine on your back.

Briarwood wrote:

> From: " Briarwood " <briarwood@...>

>

> Donna,

> What wonderful news. Perhaps you mom will change her mind and think about

> the AP now. I just wanted to let you know I had night sweats in the first

> six months or so after I started the AP and still get the occasional warm

> glow. I used to get them only at night but I find I get them rarely now

> and they can happen in the daytime too. They aren't from menopause

> either. They are RA related.

> The best to you and your mom. :>))

>

> Bev

>

> >

> > I have spoken with many of you here about my mom's RA. She started having

> symptoms in late 1996. Anyway you all know the similar story. I have been

> reading, sharing and talking to her about the AP since 1997. She didn't

> seem too interested until....... Two weeks ago she had a terrible

> toothache where she had previously had a root canal. The dentist gave her

> an antiobiotic to take. I asked her while she was on it to take notice to

> how she felt. I talked with her last night and she said that she has more

> energy and is able to have a deeper, more restful sleep. I think she may

> have mentioned that her hands might have been a little better. She also

> mentioned that since she started on the antibiotic she seems to be having

> those night sweats. Any

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Donna,

What wonderful news. Perhaps you mom will change her mind and think about

the AP now. I just wanted to let you know I had night sweats in the first

six months or so after I started the AP and still get the occasional warm

glow. I used to get them only at night but I find I get them rarely now

and they can happen in the daytime too. They aren't from menopause

either. They are RA related.

The best to you and your mom. :>))

Bev

>

> I have spoken with many of you here about my mom's RA. She started having

symptoms in late 1996. Anyway you all know the similar story. I have been

reading, sharing and talking to her about the AP since 1997. She didn't

seem too interested until....... Two weeks ago she had a terrible

toothache where she had previously had a root canal. The dentist gave her

an antiobiotic to take. I asked her while she was on it to take notice to

how she felt. I talked with her last night and she said that she has more

energy and is able to have a deeper, more restful sleep. I think she may

have mentioned that her hands might have been a little better. She also

mentioned that since she started on the antibiotic she seems to be having

those night sweats. Any

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Debby, Please know that I am praying for you and your mom. Take care. Carol

>

> From: " Tex Pueschel " <tdcc2000@...>

> Date: 2002/01/11 Fri PM 09:48:00 EST

> <LWLupus >,

> < >

> Subject: [ ] My Mom

>

> Proud Brave from Cloudeight's Native American stationery collection for

Outlook & Outlook Express email

>

> Mom seems to be doing better tonight. I spoke with the nurse this AM and she

told me that Mom is NOT out of the woods yet...they had to rush her to xray this

AM because she was having trouble breathing and then the nurse told me that her

urine output was very low. I checked today, and indeed, for having IV fluids,

she is not putting out much. But tonight and at lunch, she ate most of her

meal...that is a good thing. She has not had an appetite for so long!

>

> Well, thanks again for the prayers.

> debby

>

>

Mom seems to be doing better tonight. I spoke with the nurse this AM and she told me that Mom is NOT out of the woods yet...they had to rush her to xray this AM because she was having trouble breathing and then the nurse told me that her urine output was very low. I checked today, and indeed, for having IV fluids, she is not putting out much. But tonight and at lunch, she ate most of her meal...that is a good thing. She has not had an appetite for so long!

Well, thanks again for the prayers.

debby

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Please let your mom know how much we are all thinking about her and she will be in our thoughts and prayers. Ann CT [ ] My Mom>> Proud Brave from Cloudeight's Native American stationery collection for Outlook & Outlook Express email>> Mom seems to be doing better tonight. I spoke with the nurse this AM and she told me that Mom is NOT out of the woods yet...they had to rush her to xray this AM because she was having trouble breathing and then the nurse told me that her urine output was very low. I checked today, and indeed, for having IV fluids, she is not putting out much. But tonight and at lunch, she ate most of her meal...that is a good thing. She has not had an appetite for so long!>> Well, thanks again for the prayers.> debby>>

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-----Original Message-----From: Tex Pueschel [mailto:tdcc2000@...]Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:48 PMLWLupus ; Subject: [ ] My Mom

Mom seems to be doing better tonight. I spoke with the nurse this AM and she told me that Mom is NOT out of the woods yet...they had to rush her to xray this AM because she was having trouble breathing and then the nurse told me that her urine output was very low. I checked today, and indeed, for having IV fluids, she is not putting out much. But tonight and at lunch, she ate most of her meal...that is a good thing. She has not had an appetite for so long!

Well, thanks again for the prayers.

debby

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-----Original Message-----From: Tex Pueschel [mailto:tdcc2000@...]Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:48 PMLWLupus ; Subject: [ ] My Mom

Mom seems to be doing better tonight. I spoke with the nurse this AM and she told me that Mom is NOT out of the woods yet...they had to rush her to xray this AM because she was having trouble breathing and then the nurse told me that her urine output was very low. I checked today, and indeed, for having IV fluids, she is not putting out much. But tonight and at lunch, she ate most of her meal...that is a good thing. She has not had an appetite for so long!

Well, thanks again for the prayers.

debby

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Thanks everyone!!!!!....I appreciate all of you who have lent their support to me and my Mom. I am encouraged tonight. Just hope and continue praying that she will continue this progress! We will see how she does tomorrow!

blessings...debby

[ ] My Mom>> Proud Brave from Cloudeight's Native American stationery collection for Outlook & Outlook Express email>> Mom seems to be doing better tonight. I spoke with the nurse this AM and she told me that Mom is NOT out of the woods yet...they had to rush her to xray this AM because she was having trouble breathing and then the nurse told me that her urine output was very low. I checked today, and indeed, for having IV fluids, she is not putting out much. But tonight and at lunch, she ate most of her meal...that is a good thing. She has not had an appetite for so long!>> Well, thanks again for the prayers.> debby>>

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Debby. My sincere sympathy to you and your family. The next couple of days will be hard, I know. Make sure you take care of yourself. Your mom is at peace without anymore suffering. You were a great daughter to her so you should feel good about that. The emptiness will take some time to go away. Remember we are here for you. Not just to support you for your disease but to help you to deal with your lost. Even though my mom has been gone for almost 4 years I still miss her, but the pain is less. Remember all the good times and smile and laugh because I'm sure that's what she would want. You take care and my prayers and thoughts are with you at this time. Ann CT [ ] My Mom Tonight about 12:15 AM, the hospital called and told us that Mom had gone home. My husband and I went to the hosptial and gathered her things and saw her one more time. While we were there,my husband asked how she died. The nurse reported that she had finally settled down and was sleeping. Then, he said she was singing, then she got quiet. I guess she was singing with the chorus of angels around the great Throne of God. But, oh, it hurts so to know that she won't be here anymore. Now, the arrangements must be completed. She had her arrangements all made. I want to thank each and everyone of you for your love, prayers, and concern...phone calls too. It has meant a lot to me! I am ever so grateful that I have friends like you across the world. Without your support, I know this journey would have been a lot harder. Thanks again for everything. debby

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Debby,

I'm so sorry about your loss. I know that this is going to be a difficult

time for you but there should be some comfort in the fact that your Mom went

peacefully. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

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Debby,

My deepest sympathy to you and your family. May it be a comfort

that your mother did not suffer for long and that she is in a much

better place now.

May your faith help you through the difficult days and months

ahead.

God's peace,

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Debby,

My sincerest sympathy to you and your family. I know she will be

dearly missed.

Hugs,

Joanna

> Tonight about 12:15 AM, the hospital called and told us that Mom

had gone home. My husband and I went to the hosptial and gathered

her things and saw her one more time. While we were there,my husband

asked how she died. The nurse reported that she had finally settled

down and was sleeping. Then, he said she was singing, then she got

quiet. I guess she was singing with the chorus of angels around the

great Throne of God.

>

> But, oh, it hurts so to know that she won't be here anymore. Now,

the arrangements must be completed. She had her arrangements all

made.

>

> I want to thank each and everyone of you for your love, prayers,

and concern...phone calls too. It has meant a lot to me! I am ever

so grateful that I have friends like you across the world. Without

your support, I know this journey would have been a lot harder.

Thanks again for everything.

> debby

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Debby,

So sorry for your loss. Will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

nne

> Tonight about 12:15 AM, the hospital called and told us that Mom had

gone home. My husband and I went to the hosptial and gathered her

things and saw her one more time. While we were there,my husband

asked how she died. The nurse reported that she had finally settled

down and was sleeping. Then, he said she was singing, then she got

quiet. I guess she was singing with the chorus of angels around the

great Throne of God.

>

> But, oh, it hurts so to know that she won't be here anymore. Now,

the arrangements must be completed. She had her arrangements all made.

>

> I want to thank each and everyone of you for your love, prayers, and

concern...phone calls too. It has meant a lot to me! I am ever so

grateful that I have friends like you across the world. Without your

support, I know this journey would have been a lot harder. Thanks

again for everything.

> debby

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Thank you for telling us how your mom is. She is so loved by us all. Give her a gentle hug from and tell her I am still praying she feels stronger and better each day..... [ ] my mom hi, This is jan's son jacob. mom is out of the hospital, she is hurting but all right. she will be on in a few days sincerely, jacob

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Thank you , everyone was worried. Tell her to

rest and get better.

Sharon

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> hi,

> This is jan's son jacob. mom is out of the

> hospital, she is hurting

> but all right. she will be on in a few days

>

> sincerely,

>

> jacob

>

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Tell Mom we love and miss her and that we are so glad she is

ok....... We will be praying for a speedy recovery for her.... Also tell

her I need my partner in crime back...... ;o

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

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Hi

Thanks for letting us know how your mom is doing. Tell her says hi.

[ ] my mom

hi, This is jan's son jacob. mom is out of the hospital, she is hurting but all right. she will be on in a few days sincerely, jacob

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Hi . Thanks for letting us know that Mom is OK. Tell her that I'm glad she's doing OK & not to over do it to soon.

Terry

<ralexan@...> wrote:

Hi

Thanks for letting us know how your mom is doing. Tell her says hi.

[ ] my mom

hi, This is jan's son jacob. mom is out of the hospital, she is hurting but all right. she will be on in a few days sincerely, jacob

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Hoo-RAH for Jan & thanks to her son for letting us know.....That

was a relief!!!!!!!!!!!!

arlene

Jannewilms42@... wrote:

hi,

This is jan's son jacob. mom is out of the hospital, she is hurting but

all right. she will be on in a few days

sincerely,

jacob

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