Re: Thanks, Katcha...I missed ya!!

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I say "way to go !". Stick with it because you are so right, it is for you and only you and what others think or say doesn't matter. You are a huge inspiration to all of us.

--Alana

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Katcha,You know I am liking myself better these days. :-) Do I think people see the accomplishments I see? Notreally because outwardly I am still very overweight. But they don't know what I have done to get this far,how much pride I have in myself for being true tomyself. :-) This weekend I was standing in my dad's kitchen and hesays "Girl you are slimming down." I asked him if hereally thought so and he told me sometimes what I wearhe can see it better. So things are changing andpeople are noticing but I am not going to let theoutside influences make me obsessed about my weightloss. This time it is for me and only me. :-) I have to still get to the point where I can eat moreveggies and fruit and the good for me stuff withoutthinking in my head I am eating them because I am on adiet...and I need to get the people around me to thinkthe same way. When I choose to have carrots insteadof chocolat

e, I don't want anyone to think I am tryingto be good but that I really am hungry for the carrotsand not the chocolate. I think being an overweightperson, people think I am lazy and eat crappy all thetime. I don't but my paranoia kicks in and says thatpeople are watching what I am eating and makingjudgements. If I am eating carrots I get thewhole....oh she must be on a diet thing...and the pitystares....Or if I am eating chocolate I get the...sheshould be eating carrots stare.....It just sometimesfeels like I can't win for losing. But there isprogress. :-)This kinda got off on a tangent but I needed to getthat out.....LOLMichele--- Katcha <jain_daughhughes (DOT) net> wrote:> Michele, I too qualify along those lines! But when I> read your posts I> sure don't think 'fat chick' (although I do put a> like 'label' on> myself at

times :-O ) Its very hard to not 'keep> after yourself' when> so much in our lives (pants, mirrors, moving about)> can be a painful> reminder of our lack of being how our bodies would> be better off as -> smaller! Yet you ARE hanging in with this worthwhile> change AND being> supportive of others who are working so hard in> doing likewise. I like> ya!! Bet you are liking you too more these days > ehugs, Katcha> MicheleCR: Freak__________________________________________________

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*blushing* I have never been an inspiration to

anyone....Thanks so much for the great and kind words.

Michele

--- ajslinton@... wrote:

> I say " way to go ! " . Stick with it because

> you are so right, it is for you and only you and

> what others think or say doesn't matter. You are a

> huge inspiration to all of us.

>

> --

> Alana

>

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>

>

> Katcha,

>

> You know I am liking myself better these days. :-)

> Do I think people see the accomplishments I see? Not

> really because outwardly I am still very overweight.

>

> But they don't know what I have done to get this

> far,

> how much pride I have in myself for being true to

> myself. :-)

>

> This weekend I was standing in my dad's kitchen and

> he

> says " Girl you are slimming down. " I asked him if he

> really thought so and he told me sometimes what I

> wear

> he can see it better. So things are changing and

> people are noticing but I am not going to let the

> outside influences make me obsessed about my weight

> loss. This time it is for me and only me. :-)

>

> I have to still get to the point where I can eat

> more

> veggies and fruit and the good for me stuff without

> thinking in my head I am eating them because I am on

> a

> diet...and I need to get the people around me to

> think

> the same way. When I choose to have carrots instead

> of chocolate, I don't want anyone to think I am

> trying

> to be good but that I really am hungry for the

> carrots

> and not the chocolate. I think being an overweight

> person, people think I am lazy and eat crappy all

> the

> time. I don't but my paranoia kicks in and says that

> people are watching what I am eating and making

> judgements. If I am eating carrots I get the

> whole....oh she must be on a diet thing...and the

> pity

> stares....Or if I am eating chocolate I get

> the...she

> should be eating carrots stare.....It just sometimes

> feels like I can't win for losing. But there is

> progress. :-)

>

> This kinda got off on a tangent but I needed to get

> that out.....LOL

>

> Michele

>

> --- Katcha wrote:

>

> > Michele, I too qualify along those lines! But when

> I

> > read your posts I

> > sure don't think 'fat chick' (although I do put a

> > like 'label' on

> > myself at times :-O ) Its very hard to not 'keep

> > after yourself' when

> > so much in our lives (pants, mirrors, moving

> about)

> > can be a painful

> > reminder of our lack of being how our bodies would

> > be better off as -

> > smaller! Yet you ARE hanging in with this

> worthwhile

> > change AND being

> > supportive of others who are working so hard in

> > doing likewise. I like

> > ya!! Bet you are liking you too more these days

> > ehugs, Katcha

> >

>

> MicheleCR: Freak

>

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>

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Michele,

What a marvelous post! Kudos to you for your PROGRESS!! You are so

right, the catch-22 of our own (diet?!?) mentality is probably more

challenging than memorizing the # of calories/carbs/fiber etc. etc.

etc that 'successful' (?!!?) dieting requires.

On my cruise I noticed that the other women at the table selected

'good' things like fruit instead of the desert. A couple of times I

thought about mentioning IE, but I just didn't want to get (deeper?

lol!!) into the 'weird' person category (so be it! I AM different!)

than I already am in. Besides, I just wanted to enjoy myself, even

overeating a bit due to fabulously tempting delicious treats. One

night I did crack up the gals when one mentioned her husband weighing

her when they returned home. I told her the line - Scales are for

fish!! And I also told her to tell him that while she was indeed

'prime', she wasn't a side of beef!

I too catch myself fretting over no weight loss to date, but I am

sincerely less focused on FOOD and eating than I was before. I read a

book that really positively impacted my life titled - How I Found

Freedom In An Unfree World. I now am thinking it also could be

titled - How I Found Weight Loss In A Dieting World!!

SO GLAD you are here for me too. You inspire me! Ehugs, Katcha

>

> Katcha,

>

> You know I am liking myself better these days. :-)

> Do I think people see the accomplishments I see? Not

> really because outwardly I am still very overweight.

> But they don't know what I have done to get this far,

> how much pride I have in myself for being true to

> myself. :-)

>

> This weekend I was standing in my dad's kitchen and he

> says " Girl you are slimming down. " I asked him if he

> really thought so and he told me sometimes what I wear

> he can see it better. So things are changing and

> people are noticing but I am not going to let the

> outside influences make me obsessed about my weight

> loss. This time it is for me and only me. :-)

>

> I have to still get to the point where I can eat more

> veggies and fruit and the good for me stuff without

> thinking in my head I am eating them because I am on a

> diet...and I need to get the people around me to think

> the same way. When I choose to have carrots instead

> of chocolate, I don't want anyone to think I am trying

> to be good but that I really am hungry for the carrots

> and not the chocolate. I think being an overweight

> person, people think I am lazy and eat crappy all the

> time. I don't but my paranoia kicks in and says that

> people are watching what I am eating and making

> judgements. If I am eating carrots I get the

> whole....oh she must be on a diet thing...and the pity

> stares....Or if I am eating chocolate I get the...she

> should be eating carrots stare.....It just sometimes

> feels like I can't win for losing. But there is

> progress. :-)

>

> This kinda got off on a tangent but I needed to get

> that out.....LOL

>

> Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Sometimes people do notice when someone is having an inner

transformation, they just can't put their finger on what it is.

As far as people staring and judging, it seems like fat is one of the

last bastions of acceptable prejudice. After all, the medical

community calls it an " epidemic, " so it must be bad, right? And the

" answer " is to eat veggies and exercise more, so fat people must just

be really lazy and living at the drive-through, right?

In a few years, I HOPE, we will look back at the " epidemic " and see it

with clearer eyes. And it won't be OK to hate.

>

> > Michele, I too qualify along those lines! But when I

> > read your posts I

> > sure don't think 'fat chick' (although I do put a

> > like 'label' on

> > myself at times :-O ) Its very hard to not 'keep

> > after yourself' when

> > so much in our lives (pants, mirrors, moving about)

> > can be a painful

> > reminder of our lack of being how our bodies would

> > be better off as -

> > smaller! Yet you ARE hanging in with this worthwhile

> > change AND being

> > supportive of others who are working so hard in

> > doing likewise. I like

> > ya!! Bet you are liking you too more these days

> > ehugs, Katcha

> >

>

> MicheleCR: Freak

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Michele Hagenlock wrote:

> This weekend I was standing in my dad's kitchen and he

> says " Girl you are slimming down. "

I hate these kinds of comments.

In fact I wondered about how to lose weight without having the feeling

that " they " have " finally won " .

As irrational as this thought may be, it's very real for me. I don't

know... maybe knowing and accepting these thoughts are a part of

success. These thought won't go away in an instant.

Regards

s.

[Guest guest]

I liked the comment and it felt good.

Who are they are what have they finally won? You

comment seems a bit cryptic to me.

Michele

--- styxia@... wrote:

> Michele Hagenlock wrote:

>

> > This weekend I was standing in my dad's kitchen

> and he

> > says " Girl you are slimming down. "

>

> I hate these kinds of comments.

>

> In fact I wondered about how to lose weight without

> having the feeling

> that " they " have " finally won " .

>

> As irrational as this thought may be, it's very real

> for me. I don't

> know... maybe knowing and accepting these thoughts

> are a part of

> success. These thought won't go away in an instant.

>

> Regards

> s.

>

MicheleCR: Angels Among Us by Debbie Macomber

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Michele Hagenlock wrote:

> Who are they are what have they finally won? You

> comment seems a bit cryptic to me.

" They " refers to everyone who made comments like " you would look so

pretty if you'd just lose weight " . Everyone who ever urged me to lose

weight. People, who made me feel that I'm not enough as a person as long

as I'm fat, that I'm not good enough until I'm fat.

Maybe someone who experienced this as well might be able to explain it

better.

Regards

s.