Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I'm so with you on the MISuse of words like 'greed'!! Greed is a word to note a SAD occurrence - when one fails themself! I have a big thing about the word selfish in that it simply means to take care of one's self. Yet it has been made negative by the added connotation of 'at the expense of others' instead of the positive side of SELF responsibility - GRRR!!! (don't get me started LOL!) > > > > I really have a bad feeling with the word greed. I > > don't eat because I am greedy. That has such negative > > connotations for me. I eat for lots of reasons but I > > don't believe I eat because I am greedy. Greedy to me > > means taking more than my share and not letting others > > have any. I do not deprive anyone by eating more than > > I should. > > > > Do I sound like I am making sense? > > > > Michele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Kudos! Fireworks! And bunches of Gold Stars!! I'm right with ya Ivy!!! (even the 40+ # part :) - ehugs, Katcha > > This comes partly from some stuff people said here - and a lot from some things I've seen > on TV today. > > I am about 40 pounds overweight - by anyone's standards. But I can say with all honesty I > would rather stay this way and have a real life - a life free from the sad obsession with > food and worrying about every bite I eat and how I'm going to 'work it off' and feeling > 'guilt' about FOOD. How crazy is that to feel guilty for eating? Or to be stick thin and have > to spend hours at the gym trying to stay that way - to have my self esteem tied up in not > having a feminine form. > > To get one life and spend it on food. and at the end of my life have what to show for it? > Have done what with it? Enjoyed it how? lived, loved, laughed, had adventures - or worried > about exact amounts of carbohydrates or being an a 'zone' or what is 'clean' - what is > WRONG with people that they think that is really important and is something to judge a life > over - their own or someone else's?? Are we going to put on our tombstone ' she at clean' > or 'she had 9 percent body fat' ? > > We're not talking about eating well enough to have a long healthy life - this is not healthy > and it's not life. > > It makes me so sad to think that their are soooo many people for whom this IS their life. > And there are a lot of people feeding this obsession and making money off them. I wish I > could box IE up and give it to everyone for christmas. > > A bunch of steroids and forty pounds can only ruin my happiness and my life if I let them. > And I'm sure as heck not letting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 As do we all! In fact I am feeling that the back-tracking for our thinking is more difficult than the actual eating part. (And certainly the eating is much more fun too ;-) Glad to have you 'hanging in there' with us too. ehugs, Katcha > > I know I should just trust the process, but I have a lot > self-talking and healing to do to feel comfortable on the IE path... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I was thinking about it last night - and I'll bet according to that mysterious 'they' out there - I'm probably 50 pounds overweight. > > Kudos! Fireworks! And bunches of Gold Stars!! I'm right with ya Ivy!!! > (even the 40+ # part :) - ehugs, Katcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Michele Hagenlock wrote: > I have not accepted myself at the weight I am. I do > not want to be 330 pounds the rest of my life. So I > think your statement might be right for some of us but > I don't think it applies to all. Exactly. I don't want to be 250 lbs or so for the rest of my life. It's just not possible to accept this. This is not about " wanting to lose these 15 lbs " . However, I have accepted that I am not able to change things overnight and that it will take time and that perfection is not possible. Regards s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Michele Hagenlock wrote: > I really have a bad feeling with the word greed. I > don't eat because I am greedy. That has such negative > connotations for me. I eat for lots of reasons but I > don't believe I eat because I am greedy. Greedy to me > means taking more than my share and not letting others > have any. I do not deprive anyone by eating more than > I should. > > Do I sound like I am making sense? Yes, I hate the word " greed " , too. It just adds to the negativity I already feel towards my overeating and interferes with developing compassion for my need to overeat. Regards s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 julieca84 wrote: > I believe that one must learn to be content with > satisfaction versus overstuffed and that means learning to be less greedy. IMO it means learning to find other ways to cope with life so one doesn't need overeating anymore to do so. Regards s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Hi guys, Okay, I'll chime in on the "self acceptance" thing. To me, self acceptance does not mean accepting your weight. It means loving yourself anyway. It means "accepting" that right now, I have a body that carries some extra weight because I used food for a reason other than just nourishment. It means understanding that my "self" is more than my physical appearance, and being able to focus on the positive things about me and not focus on the negative. I believe that thoughts become things, and that when I look at my weight negatively, as something I hate, or something wrong, then I'm only going to keep the weight on. Once I see the weight as a result of something-- for me it was a result of the fact that I had not forgiven myself for some things in my past and I overate to block out the feelings-- I can begin to see it for its good purpose. I can THANK my fat for being there to insulate me and protect me when I needed it, and accept that I am slowly getting strong enough to not need it anymore. Want to lose weight, build wealth, write a book, or another goal? Enroll in one of Dr Traci's You-niversity programs. Visit www.drtraci.com to achieve your goals!(¯`v´¯)`*.¸.*´ ¸.•´¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨(¸.•´ (¸.•´ Traci Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Wow, Traci, this is exactly what I needed to read right now! Barbara Hi guys, Okay, I'll chime in on the " self acceptance " thing. To me, self acceptance does not mean accepting your weight. It means loving yourself anyway. It means " accepting " that right now, I have a body that carries some extra weight because I used food for a reason other than just nourishment. It means understanding that my " self " is more than my physical appearance, and being able to focus on the positive things about me and not focus on the negative. I believe that thoughts become things, and that when I look at my weight negatively, as something I hate, or something wrong, then I'm only going to keep the weight on. Once I see the weight as a result of something-- for me it was a result of the fact that I had not forgiven myself for some things in my past and I overate to block out the feelings-- I can begin to see it for its good purpose. I can THANK my fat for being there to insulate me and protect me when I needed it, and accept that I am slowly getting strong enough to not need it anymore. Want to lose weight, build wealth, write a book, or another goal? Enroll in one of Dr Traci's You-niversity programs. Visit www.drtraci.com to achieve your goals!(¯`v´¯)`*.¸.*´ ¸.•´¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨(¸.•´ (¸.•´ Traci Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 THAT is exactly what I meant to get across in my original post! I suppose I worded everything wrong and it's not that I necessarily want to accept the weight I'm at forever, I just want to accept the fact that this is the weight I am at for the time being and I want to be able to love myself anyway. I know that beating up on myself over it isn't going to make it go away, so I wanted to know HOW I accept myself for who I am so that way I can start treating myself better and allow my body to fall to it's " natural " weight, which I know it is not at right now yet I also know it's not 20 pounds less (which is where my mind wants it to be). Thank you for this post...it was very helpful :] > > Hi guys, > > Okay, I'll chime in on the " self acceptance " thing. To me, self acceptance does not mean accepting your weight. It means loving yourself anyway. It means " accepting " that right now, I have a body that carries some extra weight because I used food for a reason other than just nourishment. It means understanding that my " self " is more than my physical appearance, and being able to focus on the positive things about me and not focus on the negative. > > I believe that thoughts become things, and that when I look at my weight negatively, as something I hate, or something wrong, then I'm only going to keep the weight on. Once I see the weight as a result of something-- for me it was a result of the fact that I had not forgiven myself for some things in my past and I overate to block out the feelings-- I can begin to see it for its good purpose. I can THANK my fat for being there to insulate me and protect me when I needed it, and accept that I am slowly getting strong enough to not need it anymore. > > > > > Want to lose weight, build wealth, write a book, or another goal? Enroll in one of Dr Traci's You-niversity programs. Visit www.drtraci.com to achieve your goals! > > > (¯`v´¯) > `*.¸.*´ > ¸.•´¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨ > (¸.•´ (¸.•´ Traci > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 > so I wanted to know HOW I accept > myself for who I am so that way I can start treating myself better and > allow my body to fall to it's " natural " weight, which I know it is not > at right now yet I also know it's not 20 pounds less (which is where > my mind wants it to be). Have you read When Women Stop Hating Their Bodies? I found it very helpful, very thought-provoking. ~Jen S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 I haven't read it, but I will look into it. Thanks! > > so I wanted to know HOW I accept > > myself for who I am so that way I can start treating myself better and > > allow my body to fall to it's " natural " weight, which I know it is not > > at right now yet I also know it's not 20 pounds less (which is where > > my mind wants it to be). > > Have you read When Women Stop Hating Their Bodies? I found it very > helpful, very thought-provoking. > > ~Jen S. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 " To get one life and spend it on food. and at the end of my life have what to show for it? Have done what with it? Enjoyed it how? lived, loved, laughed, had adventures - or worried about exact amounts of carbohydrates or being an a 'zone' or what is 'clean' - what is WRONG with people that they think that is really important and is something to judge a life over - their own or someone else's?? Are we going to put on our tombstone ' she at clean' or 'she had 9 percent body fat' ? " This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever read. I am going to print it out and keep it with me. I don't want to waste another minute of my prescious life on food. Thanks, Jodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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