Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

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My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?

thanks for any help,

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> My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some

gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since

late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another

huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the

rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way?

His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash

mean anything?

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> thanks for any help,

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I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhone

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex

for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhone

Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote:

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ My 2

1/2 year old has been on valtrex

for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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You can dose at the same time. Two totally different drugs that don't effect each other. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~On Oct 3, 2009, at 11:11 PM, angelacaliforniamom wrote:My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~On Oct 3, 2009, at 11:11 PM, angelacaliforniamom wrote:My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~On Oct 3, 2009, at 11:11 PM, angelacaliforniamom wrote:My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?

Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.

My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeast

rears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continue

with valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I wait

at least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sure

He remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote:

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.

The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

[Guest guest]

What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?

Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.

My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeast

rears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continue

with valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I wait

at least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sure

He remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote:

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.

The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

[Guest guest]

What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?

Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.

My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeast

rears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continue

with valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I wait

at least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sure

He remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote:

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.

The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

[Guest guest]

What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?

Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.

My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeast

rears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continue

with valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I wait

at least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sure

He remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote:

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.

The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response, Cheryl.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:53:28 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

my son has been on Rx antifungals for 3 years. You rotate them every 6-9 months - basically whenever they stop working. In my son's case, it's more like 4- 6 months. This is not abnormal and if you are doing antivirals, you pretty much need it. You *must* monitor liver function, tho. If your child's liver enzymes go up you do need to stop so it is very important to watch out for but it doesn't happen as often as you think. Most people do fine on it long term but there are some people that don't which is why it's so important. You dont want to be find out that your child falls into that "some" category instead of the "most" category the hard way.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?

From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrance@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?

Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot.. com

~@midian42~

Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.

My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeast

rears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continue

with valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I wait

at least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sure

He remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote:

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.

The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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My son was on diflucan for over a year, we checked his liver with a simple lft blood test every month or 6 weeks. It was fantastic for him and he never had any problems while on it. Goukergouker@... What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need adviceYou most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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my son has been on Rx antifungals for 3 years. You rotate them every 6-9 months - basically whenever they stop working. In my son's case, it's more like 4- 6 months. This is not abnormal and if you are doing antivirals, you pretty much need it. You *must* monitor liver function, tho. If your child's liver enzymes go up you do need to stop so it is very important to watch out for but it doesn't happen as often as you think. Most people do fine on it long term but there are some people that don't which is why it's so important. You dont want to be find out that your child falls into that "some" category instead of the "most" category the hard way. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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my son has been on Rx antifungals for 3 years. You rotate them every 6-9 months - basically whenever they stop working. In my son's case, it's more like 4- 6 months. This is not abnormal and if you are doing antivirals, you pretty much need it. You *must* monitor liver function, tho. If your child's liver enzymes go up you do need to stop so it is very important to watch out for but it doesn't happen as often as you think. Most people do fine on it long term but there are some people that don't which is why it's so important. You dont want to be find out that your child falls into that "some" category instead of the "most" category the hard way. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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Thanks so much for the reply Cheryl - I appreciate it. We have added LDN with the Valtrex and seeing amazing results! Thanks again!

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a

rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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Cheryl...i am dosing valtrex 3x/day @ 250mg. I was thinking of switchingto 500mg 2x/day per the PI. I also give him 1/4 tsp of diflucan 2x/day. My son weights 38lbs and will be 4 on 11/29. What r your thts?ValenciaSent from my iPhone

Thanks for your response, Cheryl.

From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:53:28 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

my son has been on Rx antifungals for 3 years. You rotate them every 6-9 months - basically whenever they stop working. In my son's case, it's more like 4- 6 months. This is not abnormal and if you are doing antivirals, you pretty much need it. You *must* monitor liver function, tho. If your child's liver enzymes go up you do need to stop so it is very important to watch out for but it doesn't happen as often as you think. Most people do fine on it long term but there are some people that don't which is why it's so important. You dont want to be find out that your child falls into that "some" category instead of the "most" category the hard way.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?

From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrance@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice

You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?

Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot.. com

~@midian42~

Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.

My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeast

rears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continue

with valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I wait

at least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sure

He remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote:

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.

The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com

~@midian42~

My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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Thanks so much for the reply Cheryl - I appreciate it. We have added LDN with the Valtrex and seeing amazing results! Thanks again!

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He

has not broken out in a

rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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Here is the link to learn more about what it is doing for kids:http://books.google.com/books?id=bkZ9dWPrz2QC & pg=PT105 & lpg=PT105 & dq=ldn+autism & source=bl & ots=TQ2SDi4rdB & sig=kdC57-GHROEFJKzMdqPVmxl_WiU & hl=en & ei=fz7VSpLZGoH2sgPW_uHVAg & sa=X & oi=book_result & ct=result & resnum=8 & ved=0CCgQ6AEwBzgK#v=onepage & q=ldn%20autism & f=falseWe have seen amazing results in the last week (appropriate eye contact, normal joint referencing, receptive language improving).

What is LDN?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Angie <richardsonme> wrote:

Thanks so much for the reply Cheryl - I appreciate it. We have added LDN with the Valtrex and seeing amazing results! Thanks again!

I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He

has not broken out in a

rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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Low dose naltrexone Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ What is LDN?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Angie <richardsonme> wrote: Thanks so much for the reply Cheryl - I appreciate it. We have added LDN with the Valtrex and seeing amazing results! Thanks again! I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~On Oct 3, 2009, at 11:11 PM, angelacaliforniamom wrote:My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,

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Ah ha! I responded to your post on the wrong thread! Lol! Anyway, what is his weight? Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ Cheryl...i am dosing valtrex 3x/day @ 250mg. I was thinking of switchingto 500mg 2x/day per the PI. I also give him 1/4 tsp of diflucan 2x/day. My son weights 38lbs and will be 4 on 11/29. What r your thts?ValenciaSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Marie Slater <marie.slater> wrote: Thanks for your response, Cheryl.From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:53:28 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice my son has been on Rx antifungals for 3 years. You rotate them every 6-9 months - basically whenever they stop working. In my son's case, it's more like 4- 6 months. This is not abnormal and if you are doing antivirals, you pretty much need it. You *must* monitor liver function, tho. If your child's liver enzymes go up you do need to stop so it is very important to watch out for but it doesn't happen as often as you think. Most people do fine on it long term but there are some people that don't which is why it's so important. You dont want to be find out that your child falls into that "some" category instead of the "most" category the hard way.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrance@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot.. com~@midian42~Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,Messages in this topic (12) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topicMARKETPLACEMom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Change settings via the Web (Yahoo!

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He weights 38lbsSent from my iPhone

Ah ha! I responded to your post on the wrong thread! Lol! Anyway, what is his weight? Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ Cheryl...i am dosing valtrex 3x/day @ 250mg. I was thinking of switchingto 500mg 2x/day per the PI. I also give him 1/4 tsp of diflucan 2x/day. My son weights 38lbs and will be 4 on 11/29. What r your thts?ValenciaSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Marie Slater <marie.slater> wrote: Thanks for your response, Cheryl.From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:53:28 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice my son has been on Rx antifungals for 3 years. You rotate them every 6-9 months - basically whenever they stop working. In my son's case, it's more like 4- 6 months. This is not abnormal and if you are doing antivirals, you pretty much need it. You *must* monitor liver function, tho. If your child's liver enzymes go up you do need to stop so it is very important

to watch out for but it doesn't happen as often as you think. Most people do fine on it long term but there are some people that don't which is why it's so important. You dont want to be find out that your child falls into that "some" category instead of the "most" category the hard way.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~What about

Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrance@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20

AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different

cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot.. com~@midian42~Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a

response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,Messages in this topic (12) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topicMARKETPLACEMom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Change settings via the Web (Yahoo!

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Ok... Thanks...I'm in Georgia but have an appt on the 4th w/a newDan that practices integrated medicine. Many docs are so behind thegame that it makes me sick. Our current Dan is a DC and can't rx meds.One of the only two in my area are booked until Feb. So looks likeWe'll be traveling!Valencia Sent from my iPhone

I'm not a doctor so in my non professional opinion, yes you can bump to 500 but remain at 3x a day. So 1500 total. Talk to your doc. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ On Oct 14, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Valencia

wrote:He weights 38lbsSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 14, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: Ah ha! I responded to your post on the wrong thread! Lol! Anyway, what is his weight?Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~On Oct

13, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Valencia wrote:Cheryl...i am dosing valtrex 3x/day @ 250mg. I was thinking of switchingto 500mg 2x/day per the PI. I also give him 1/4 tsp of diflucan 2x/day. My son weights 38lbs and will be 4 on 11/29. What r your thts?ValenciaSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Marie Slater <marie.slater> wrote: Thanks for your response, Cheryl.From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:53:28 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice my son has been on Rx antifungals for 3 years. You rotate them every 6-9 months - basically whenever they stop working. In my son's case, it's more like 4- 6 months. This is not abnormal and if you are doing antivirals, you pretty much need it.

You *must* monitor liver function, tho. If your child's liver enzymes go up you do need to stop so it is very important to watch out for but it doesn't happen as often as you think. Most people do fine on it long term but there are some people that don't which is why it's so important. You dont want to be find out that your child falls into that "some" category instead of the "most" category the hard way.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrance@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex.

What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot.. com~@midian42~Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we

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I'm not a doctor so in my non professional opinion, yes you can bump to 500 but remain at 3x a day. So 1500 total. Talk to your doc. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ He weights 38lbsSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 14, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: Ah ha! I responded to your post on the wrong thread! Lol! Anyway, what is his weight?Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~On Oct 13, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Valencia wrote:Cheryl...i am dosing valtrex 3x/day @ 250mg. I was thinking of switchingto 500mg 2x/day per the PI. I also give him 1/4 tsp of diflucan 2x/day. My son weights 38lbs and will be 4 on 11/29. What r your thts?ValenciaSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Marie Slater <marie.slater> wrote: Thanks for your response, Cheryl.From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:53:28 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice my son has been on Rx antifungals for 3 years. You rotate them every 6-9 months - basically whenever they stop working. In my son's case, it's more like 4- 6 months. This is not abnormal and if you are doing antivirals, you pretty much need it. You *must* monitor liver function, tho. If your child's liver enzymes go up you do need to stop so it is very important to watch out for but it doesn't happen as often as you think. Most people do fine on it long term but there are some people that don't which is why it's so important. You dont want to be find out that your child falls into that "some" category instead of the "most" category the hard way.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~What about Diflucan for longer than 30 days...like 2 months? Is that a bad idea? Anyone?From: Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrance@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:57:20 AMSubject: Re: 4 months on valtrex need advice You most certainly can be on diflucan for longer than 21 days. You just need to monitor liver function. Rotating antifungals too quickly leads too resistance. I hear this a lot from people that some DANs say this. I really don't have a solution for it other than to find another DAN if s/he won't let you continue longer than 21 days. Usually when I hear that a DAN is saying this I find they are also dosing too low on Valtrex. What is your dose and frequency?Naturals aren't usually enough. I do know some that plug along with them okay but it's very few. Generally it's too much of a problem because it shifts the immune system to a different cytokine function. I can't remember which offhand but it's a shift from T1 cytokines to T2 (or vice versa). One controls yeast and the other controls everything else and you are switching to the one that controls everything else. I posted some studies on it a long time ago which i actually got from someone here so you might want to try to dig them up from the archives if you want more exact information. I got a new computer and I don't have them anymore otherwise I would just e-mail them to you.Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot.. com~@midian42~Thanks Cheryl I ha just sent another post bc i didn't see a response.My sons Dan said we he should not be on diflucan longer than 21 days. So if yeastrears it's ugly lil head after that, should I rotate to something else or just continuewith valtrex only until I see signs of yeast and restart diflucan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Valencia <valencia.wilson@ yahoo.com> wrote: Is it better to dose valtrex and diflucan at the same time or should I waitat least 2 hours between. My son did test for yeast and want to make sureHe remains yeast free?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: I didn't notice an answer on this so sorry you had to wait so long for a response.The rash isn't important. Is it helpful, yes, you know it's working. But it's not necessary. Antivirals is a long term therapy and 4 months is not nearly long enough. You're best bet is to monitor titers. This will tell you what's happening and is incredibly helpful. Different results mean different things and if you've seen results already, then stopping is not ideal. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins -tail.blogspot. com~@midian42~My 2 1/2 year old has been on valtrex for 4 months now and we have see some gains - usually after a rash episode. He has not broken out in a rash since late July so we were considering stopping but just today he broke out in another huge rash - so we will see if this one brings gains. My question is, is the rash just a side effect of the drug or is it a release of the virus in some way? His titlers are very high for herpes 1,2 HHV6 and chicken pox. Does the rash mean anything?thanks for any help,Messages in this topic (12) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topicMARKETPLACEMom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Change settings via the Web (Yahoo!