Re: Bindi's Hormone Saliva Test Results-- ADRENALS

[Guest guest]

Hi Bindi,

I am so glad to hear you took the plunge and did the testing. You

have interesting results...different from mine, but still indicative

of an area of trouble for you.

Did you look at the box to see what stage of adrenal fatigue you

were in?

When I talked to Dr. , he said that you want a high morning

cortisol, so if yours is depressed when you get up, you might want

to try some sort of cortisol support early on, but then you'd have

to slow it down by noon. Hmmm, sounds difficult!

Phosphorylated Serine is what helps to reduce that high cortisol, so

you might want to look at getting some of that to take about an hour

before you hit that high level.

I'll be interested to hear what your doctor has to say. Who are you

going to talk to? I still have to write Dr. ....I have not

taken the time to write out my questions for him.

Sounds like you need testosterone too!

I hope that you feel tons better after you get it sorted out. I

know I certainly do! I am so thankful for those women on the Stop

the Thyroid Madness site for forging ahead with their experiences

regardless of what the doctors were saying. I think they are right

on with their approach!

I upped my thyroid dosage to a level my doctor would freak out

about. But I feel so much better! My palpitations stopped today,

and I have tons of energy. I have to believe it's the cortisone

cream, the armour, and the 1/4 tsp salt in water that is working!

Patty

>

> Hi All,

> Thought I'd pass along my test reuslts for those of you trying to

puzzle out how to approach your healing and thinking about having

these tests done. I did the hormone panel offered by Diagnos-Techs

offered through Canary Club.

>

> My CORTISOL tests were the most revealing: My morning levels were

depressed, noon levels elevated, and afternoon levels and midnight

levels were normal. According to the brief evaluation, this is

suggestive of " marginal HPA peformance " and " morning cortisol

augmentation or 11 Beta HSD inhibitors, as in licorice, worth

considering. Noon value is elevated indicating a stress response or

rebound effect often associated with glucose counter regulation

process. " Interesting. Kind of fits with how I feel-- worse in the

morning.

>

> As far as the other tests, DHA, thyroid, estradiol and

progesterone were all normal, but TESTOSTERONE was low. Hmm.

>

> I'm going to cough up the cash for an appointment with the Canary

Club doc and see what he recommends. But I find it all interesting

and somewhat encouraging, and have to thank Patty for sleuthing out

this direction. Perhaps if many of us show these same sorts of

results, it will be easier to offer advice to women who are

recovering.

>

> Yours,

> Bindi

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bindi,

I just visited my Naturopath this week and she's going to retest my

Thyroid, because last year when she tested me my T4 was 3.09, and

she said the guidelines have changed and anything over 3.03 is

considered high. She's also going to test my Adrenals, and since my

sister has Multiple Myeloma (even though the risk isn't high that it

runs in families) she's going to test for MGUS. She's going to

retest for Candida as well. There were a few other things she was

going to check, but she said if my Thyroid is still high she'd like

to put me on a small dose of Armour Thyroid and see if that helps.

I also told her that I've been taking Xanax since my explant and

want to go off of it, but when I try the brain fog comes back. She

gave me information on something called Gaba which I'm going to try,

and that supposedly is a good alternative to Xanax. I told her

about the Ionic Foot bath and she said that her patients with autism

have improved after using that, and she also recommended the Far

Infrared Sauna, which I already knew about from this site and plan

to get once I'm working again. For anyone here who suffers from any

chronic viral issues (including Chronic Fatigue), she also gave me

information on Lauricidin (http://lauricidin.com/).

Speaking of the job front, I've gone through two rounds of

interviews for the same position and next week I'll meet with them

for a third time, so I know I'm in the running but time will tell.

If that doesn't work out, I am planning on starting school on June

26th.

Sis

> >

> > Hi All,

> > Thought I'd pass along my test reuslts for those of you trying

to

> puzzle out how to approach your healing and thinking about having

> these tests done. I did the hormone panel offered by Diagnos-Techs

> offered through Canary Club.

> >

> > My CORTISOL tests were the most revealing: My morning levels

were

> depressed, noon levels elevated, and afternoon levels and midnight

> levels were normal. According to the brief evaluation, this is

> suggestive of " marginal HPA peformance " and " morning cortisol

> augmentation or 11 Beta HSD inhibitors, as in licorice, worth

> considering. Noon value is elevated indicating a stress response

or

> rebound effect often associated with glucose counter regulation

> process. " Interesting. Kind of fits with how I feel-- worse in the

> morning.

> >

> > As far as the other tests, DHA, thyroid, estradiol and

> progesterone were all normal, but TESTOSTERONE was low. Hmm.

> >

> > I'm going to cough up the cash for an appointment with the

Canary

> Club doc and see what he recommends. But I find it all interesting

> and somewhat encouraging, and have to thank Patty for sleuthing

out

> this direction. Perhaps if many of us show these same sorts of

> results, it will be easier to offer advice to women who are

> recovering.

> >

> > Yours,

> > Bindi

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hope your job works out, Sis, it sounds like you are right up there

with the best.

Hope you get it.

Lynda

At 03:04 PM 6/15/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Bindi,

>

>I just visited my Naturopath this week and she's going to retest my

>Thyroid, because last year when she tested me my T4 was 3.09, and

>she said the guidelines have changed and anything over 3.03 is

>considered high. She's also going to test my Adrenals, and since my

>sister has Multiple Myeloma (even though the risk isn't high that it

>runs in families) she's going to test for MGUS. She's going to

>retest for Candida as well. There were a few other things she was

>going to check, but she said if my Thyroid is still high she'd like

>to put me on a small dose of Armour Thyroid and see if that helps.

>I also told her that I've been taking Xanax since my explant and

>want to go off of it, but when I try the brain fog comes back. She

>gave me information on something called Gaba which I'm going to try,

>and that supposedly is a good alternative to Xanax. I told her

>about the Ionic Foot bath and she said that her patients with autism

>have improved after using that, and she also recommended the Far

>Infrared Sauna, which I already knew about from this site and plan

>to get once I'm working again. For anyone here who suffers from any

>chronic viral issues (including Chronic Fatigue), she also gave me

>information on Lauricidin (<http://lauricidin.com/>http://lauricidin.com/).

>

>Speaking of the job front, I've gone through two rounds of

>interviews for the same position and next week I'll meet with them

>for a third time, so I know I'm in the running but time will tell.

>If that doesn't work out, I am planning on starting school on June

>26th.

>

>Sis

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > > Thought I'd pass along my test reuslts for those of you trying

>to

> > puzzle out how to approach your healing and thinking about having

> > these tests done. I did the hormone panel offered by Diagnos-Techs

> > offered through Canary Club.

> > >

> > > My CORTISOL tests were the most revealing: My morning levels

>were

> > depressed, noon levels elevated, and afternoon levels and midnight

> > levels were normal. According to the brief evaluation, this is

> > suggestive of " marginal HPA peformance " and " morning cortisol

> > augmentation or 11 Beta HSD inhibitors, as in licorice, worth

> > considering. Noon value is elevated indicating a stress response

>or

> > rebound effect often associated with glucose counter regulation

> > process. " Interesting. Kind of fits with how I feel-- worse in the

> > morning.

> > >

> > > As far as the other tests, DHA, thyroid, estradiol and

> > progesterone were all normal, but TESTOSTERONE was low. Hmm.

> > >

> > > I'm going to cough up the cash for an appointment with the

>Canary

> > Club doc and see what he recommends. But I find it all interesting

> > and somewhat encouraging, and have to thank Patty for sleuthing

>out

> > this direction. Perhaps if many of us show these same sorts of

> > results, it will be easier to offer advice to women who are

> > recovering.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > > Bindi

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sis . . . I'm thrilled you've found a good doctor too! Let's pray your tests go well and that you continue to heal - and that you end up getting your best job ever! Hugs, Rogene

[Guest guest]

Patty,

Thanks so much for your insight. Though I've always wondered about my adrenals (cortisol was the only blood test I had that ever came out wacky), it was you who inspired me to go further, and I'm glad I did.

I'm not sure how to read the box on the right, but my range falls in box 5. It surprised me that my testosterone level is low-- I'm curious to find out how it relates to the cortisol.

I'm planning to see Dr. , whose office is up the road from me. I've spoken to him briefly by phone and email, and he has been very helpful. I'll keep you posted!

Bindi

[Guest guest]

Sis,

Sounds like you are forging ahead! That's great about the job prospects-- I send you good luck wishes.

I'm curious what your cortisol levels are. If you can, I think it's important to test throughout the day, not just once or twice during the day, because the various levels have a relationship with each other that points to the problem. I'm starting to understand this.

Bindi

[Guest guest]

Hi Bindi,

Thanks so much!! One way or another, I'll be busy in a few weeks -

either working or schooling. If I do get the job I'll take web-

based classes or night classes in the fall. With only 25 credits to

go towards the degree, I really feel motivated to get it done.

The naturopath did mention that it involved testing throughout the

day, but first we're going to start with the Thyroid testing and

various other tests that she ordered. We're going to do the

testing in stages since not everything is covered by insurance.

I'll make sure to share what the results are when I get them.

Sis

>

> Sis,

> Sounds like you are forging ahead! That's great about the job

prospects-- I send you good luck wishes.

> I'm curious what your cortisol levels are. If you can, I think

it's important to test throughout the day, not just once or twice

during the day, because the various levels have a relationship with

each other that points to the problem. I'm starting to understand

this.

>

> Bindi

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Rogene! The job looks quite promising, so I've got my

fingers crossed. If I don't get it, then that just means something

better is waiting around the corner (I hope I don't sound too

Pollyanna-ish - but it works for me).

Sis

>

> Sis . . .

>

> I'm thrilled you've found a good doctor too!

>

> Let's pray your tests go well and that you continue to heal -

and that you end up getting your best job ever!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>