Re: Sweet Dede:

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Hello Lea ~

How are you today ? ? I am still trying to come up

with the right words to describe my appointment

yesterday diplomatically and with grace.

So far any words that even come close to nice are

in the far distance in relationship to my experience.

I left there with no knowledge at all about myself,

or my condition at all.....absolutely none !

As far as the business office and their treatment

of me, in front of an entire full waiting room, I left

crying out of complete and total frustrantion and humility.

The entire rest of the day, I just sank into.....what had just

happened. I went in very ill, and came out feeling totally

berated.

Next to the arrogant way the two doctors that sent me

home to die, back in September of 05, I have never

ever been treated so horribly, and to top it off, it was in front

of a full waiting room of people, I cannot express the depth

of embarrasment and humiliation I felt ....

As I was checking out, the girl at the desk, very kindly said to

me, " You are on medicare disability, an 80/20 plan, and your portion is $18.41." I said, ok, I am sorry, I did not bring a check today, I did give you all a check on tuesday when I was here,

and I will bring one in on friday when I come for my CT's. If you will please try to figure out how much my part for that day will

be, I will bring a check when I come in for the full amount. "

I also said, " I worked in the med field 26 years and I know your

position, and I am sorry I dont have payment with me "

So, she went to have someone figure that out for me. I waited around, had my blood drawn and all, then the girl brought the amount to me on a slip of paper, then some other gal came up to the window too, and said " We have to have payment right now, payment is required at the time of the visit", I patiently told her,

" I am sorry, I did not bring a check today, as I told this gal, I will bring it friday, and give it to you all when I come in, for todays,

visit and for my part on the ct's." She said to me, " Well, we require a payment today " and looked at me with disgust.

I then said, " Again, I am sorry, I do not have a method of payment with me, I cannot give you what I do not have. Then I told her , " I worked in the field for a very long time, 26 years

and I understand the difficulties of your position, I will bring payment in and give it to you all when I come in for the full amount."

Then she leaned over the counter at me, put her hand on the counter to hold herself steady, and then she got in my face and

said, " You have a balance of $ 491.79 and you have to pay that before you can have any more treatments here. You can go to the hospital and have them done, they can absorb what you cant pay there, but we cant "

I was shocked, I couldnt believe she just got in my face with her mean agressive look, and that smirk, and said that to me. I thought she was going to jump across and attack me. ( that is how she made me feel, anyway)

I again, patiently said, " I paid 40 dollars towards my balance tuesday, would you like to see a copy of it? " (The balance on my receipt from tuesday said that my portion due was $ 57.88 .)

She said.." NO " .....I said " Please go talk to Dr Venegoni,

he said he would work with me." She said," Well, we dont

do it that way anymore, we require payment in full at the time

of service, and you also owe almost 500 dollars "

I told her " I will try to pay 40 towards my balance every month

plus my part when I am here " and she said " We wont do the ct's on you til its paid. " Then she said , " I will go talk to Dr Venegoni," she walked around the office a bit, and came back and said," I will have him call you," I said, you dont need to do that, then she said " I will have the administrator call you. " I said,

" no need, please just give her a note that I will try to pay 40 towards my balance per month " Then I said " I live on disability, less than 900 a month, I can not give what I dont have " , she leaned in to my face again, and with that mean evil look with that smirk, and she said," I dont care " we cant run a business without full payment," I said please just tell her I will try to

pay 40 dollars a month. I walked out crying.....

She can have the whole office call me, but that is not going

to change things and make money grow at my house, only

waste their time and make them frustrated. I honestly dont

see why it would have been so hard for her to have been kind

to me about the whole thing, even done it in private and

not in front of everyone, and how hard would it have been

for her to make a quick note on a sticky to let the business

office know I planned to pay 40 a month til the balance was

gone.

I also dont see how a $ 57.88 balance from tuesday grew to a

balance of $ 491.79 by friday, all my portion, and there was no way by that point that I was going to talk to anyone further there about anything........The increase from 57 to 491 in a couple days was my initial shock, that left me for a loss of words. No, my initial shock was that Dr Canby wanted my heart muscle strength checked, as he felt the cardiomyopathy was progressing , and Dr Venegoni said since I had one this year, I couldnt. I suppose medicare wouldnt pay well for a second one in a years time, I am not sure.

Anyway, I had chest pain and upper back pain all night, sometimes it is squeezing hard, and then in the middle of the night I was having muscles grabbing, and then acid coming up into my mouth, and a horrible cough I took a Nexium, and I finally went back to sleep.

I have these hot spells, no sweats, just I get real hot and nausiated

badly, and they come and go just like the chest and back pains.

I am not sure what is going on......I just know that my body is

unhappy and giving me signs, and I am telling the doctors, but no one is listening. No one is trying to put the puzzel pieces together for me.....I feel in my heart that it is all connected......

I take the nexium or prilosec during the day, and it does nothing for me....nothing at all.....If I am going to have a problem with gerds, it happens reguardless.

Meanwhile, I have those 3rd beats alot, 20-30 times a day ? ? and this weird warm feeling in my chest when it happens, and a funny feeling in my neck, and sometimes my jaws ache.

The whole trunk of my body on the insides is sore off and on, and then I get this sorta warm burney feeling all inside my guts,

almost feeling really toxic.

I have alot of trunk pain, and soreness, and pain in the lung and kidney areas. I also have this feeling under my right ribs, it feels like a ball is in there. and it hurts, and sometimes when I breath it feels like my ribs are scraping it and making it raw. It is really strange. I have this big lump on the right side of my neck by

my collar bone, it is between a golf ball and tennis ball size.

A smaller one on the left side. It is sore when I press in on it,

and it is soft, but the right sided one is getting bigger, and it is over my collar bone now. The lymph nodes on either side of

my jaws are pretty big, about an inch or inch and a half each,

and both are sore. They have been there a very long time.

Please pray for me, as I do not know what else to do at this point.....Again, I am handing it all over to God.... I am at a total

loss, and I will trust he will guide me.

Love Dede

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My Sweet Dede:

We hope that you had a good appointment with your doctor. I had my mammogram and then they had to do an ultrasound. The lady who did the ultrasound found something in my right breast. When I asked what she had found, she told me she thought that it was fat! She also told me that many women want breast implants and that they are the same as people who smoke. I told her that there is a big difference because breast implants are surgically implanted into our bodies. How stupid is she!!

My son, and his wife and our grandchildren are here from Vancouver. Last night my son called and told me that they will come over this afternoon. We are excited to see them, because they only come once a year.

Dede, please have a happy day, and we will talk later, and please let us know about your appointment yesterday.

We love you always....Lea and Superman

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Re: Sweet Dede:

Hello Sweet Lea ~ I am glad that you are enjoying your new hair do, andthat likes it too. I know it is always refreshingto get renewed ! I will let ya know what doc says today. I am not sure thatthe cardiomyopathy with this heart will get better. It ismy goal, but it has advanced per my EP cardio that I saw on tuesday. My heart is very scarred. I bet that Jag was definately tempting ! ! what a fun ride ! I pray you get your answers too today. Then we both cancelebrate, and know that one day soon we can get into sometrouble.....playing and living for a change.......Sending you lots of love and healing ~ Dede**************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

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Lynda ~

I tell ya, that was a horrible experience.

I am writing my doc a letter.

I have no clue if they threw my bood away

or took me off the ct schedule or

anything. Right now, I dont even

want to talk to anyone there.....

I will send the letter out monday tho, so he

gets it right away.

For that visit, if my cost was 18 somthing, and that

is 20 percent, I guess I was charged around 180 or so

to be berated.......and publically humiliated.

An I dont know from the doctor, no, cant do an echo

yet, and here lets do labs, and ct of chest and abdomen

and come back in 4 weeks.....

I am not sure what to do........

or think......

How are you Lynda ? was it nice to be able

to skip a treatment ? ?

Love you ~

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Hello Rogene ~

Thank you for the kind words.....Yes, it was

totally .......I am not sure what a word would

be.

No answers......

I know something is horribly wrong tho....

I am just not sure what.

Maybe I am in process of healing and having

my miracle, and the process is just making

me feel really bad.

OK, it would be nice, tho......

I have massaged the lymph nodes off and on

for years, and they just stay the same.....

What is weird, my EX hubby is here and mowing

my lawn and visiting, and he pointed out I have another

lump on my neck right in the very center at the top of where

my collar bone starts. So on either side at the base of my

neck and also in the very center.....

I am turning into a giant puff ball with lumps and bumps

and nodules everywhere........

I look like Verruca on Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

movie, just not blue....

Anyway..........Thank you for the healing energy, love and hugs

I sure need them right now ! ! I hope you are feeling good, and

you have a lovely day. I love you ~

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That woman needs to be reported to someone, like your doctor.

There is never an excuse for anyone acting that way.

Lynda

At 10:31 AM 10/25/2008, you wrote:

>Hello Lea ~

>How are you today ? ? I am still trying to come up

>with the right words to describe my appointment

>yesterday diplomatically and with grace.

>

>So far any words that even come close to nice are

>in the far distance in relationship to my experience.

>

>I left there with no knowledge at all about myself,

>or my condition at all.....absolutely none !

>

>As far as the business office and their treatment

>of me, in front of an entire full waiting room, I left

>crying out of complete and total frustrantion and humility.

>

>The entire rest of the day, I just sank into.....what had just

>happened. I went in very ill, and came out feeling totally

>berated.

>

>Next to the arrogant way the two doctors that sent me

>home to die, back in September of 05, I have never

>ever been treated so horribly, and to top it off, it was in front

>of a full waiting room of people, I cannot express the depth

>of embarrasment and humiliation I felt ....

>

>As I was checking out, the girl at the desk, very kindly said to

>me, " You are on medicare disability, an 80/20

>plan, and your portion is $18.41. " I said,

>ok, I am sorry, I did not bring a check

>today, I did give you all a check on tuesday when I was here,

>and I will bring one in on friday when I come

>for my CT's. If you will please try to figure

>out how much my part for that day will

>be, I will bring a check when I come in for the full amount. "

>I also said, " I worked in the med field 26 years and I know your

>position, and I am sorry I dont have payment with me "

>

>So, she went to have someone figure that out for

>me. I waited around, had my blood drawn and

>all, then the girl brought the amount to me on a

>slip of paper, then some other gal came up to

>the window too, and said " We have to have

>payment right now, payment is required at the

>time of the visit " , I patiently told her,

> " I am sorry, I did not bring a check today, as

>I told this gal, I will bring it friday, and

>give it to you all when I come in, for todays,

>visit and for my part on the ct's. " She said

>to me, " Well, we require a payment today " and looked at me with disgust.

>

>I then said, " Again, I am sorry, I do not

>have a method of payment with me, I cannot give

>you what I do not have. Then I told her , " I

>worked in the field for a very long time, 26 years

>and I understand the difficulties of your

>position, I will bring payment in and give it to

>you all when I come in for the full amount. "

>

>Then she leaned over the counter at me, put her

>hand on the counter to hold herself steady, and then she got in my face and

>said, " You have a balance of $ 491.79 and you

>have to pay that before you can have any more

>treatments here. You can go to the hospital and

>have them done, they can absorb what you cant pay there, but we cant "

>

>I was shocked, I couldnt believe she just got in

>my face with her mean agressive look, and that

>smirk, and said that to me. I thought she was

>going to jump across and attack me. ( that is how she made me feel, anyway)

>

>I again, patiently said, " I paid 40 dollars

>towards my balance tuesday, would you like to

>see a copy of it? " (The balance on my receipt

>from tuesday said that my portion due was $ 57.88 .)

>She said.. " NO " .....I said " Please go talk to Dr Venegoni,

>he said he would work with me. " She said, " Well, we dont

>do it that way anymore, we require payment in full at the time

>of service, and you also owe almost 500 dollars "

>

>I told her " I will try to pay 40 towards my balance every month

>plus my part when I am here " and she said " We

>wont do the ct's on you til its paid. " Then

>she said , " I will go talk to Dr

>Venegoni, " she walked around the office a bit,

>and came back and said, " I will have him call

>you, " I said, you dont need to do that, then

>she said " I will have the administrator call you. " I said,

> " no need, please just give her a note that I

>will try to pay 40 towards my balance per month

> " Then I said " I live on disability, less

>than 900 a month, I can not give what I dont

>have " , she leaned in to my face again, and

>with that mean evil look with that smirk, and

>she said, " I dont care " we cant run a

>business without full payment, " I said please just tell her I will try to

>pay 40 dollars a month. I walked out crying.....

>She can have the whole office call me, but that is not going

>to change things and make money grow at my house, only

>waste their time and make them frustrated. I honestly dont

>see why it would have been so hard for her to have been kind

>to me about the whole thing, even done it in private and

>not in front of everyone, and how hard would it have been

>for her to make a quick note on a sticky to let the business

>office know I planned to pay 40 a month til the balance was

>gone.

>

>I also dont see how a $ 57.88 balance from tuesday grew to a

>balance of $ 491.79 by friday, all my portion,

>and there was no way by that point that I was

>going to talk to anyone further there about

>anything........The increase from 57 to 491 in a

>couple days was my initial shock, that left me

>for a loss of words. No, my initial shock was

>that Dr Canby wanted my heart muscle strength

>checked, as he felt the cardiomyopathy was

>progressing , and Dr Venegoni said since I had

>one this year, I couldnt. I suppose medicare

>wouldnt pay well for a second one in a years time, I am not sure.

>

>Anyway, I had chest pain and upper back pain all

>night, sometimes it is squeezing hard, and then

>in the middle of the night I was having muscles

>grabbing, and then acid coming up into my mouth,

>and a horrible cough I took a Nexium, and I finally went back to sleep.

>I have these hot spells, no sweats, just I get real hot and nausiated

>badly, and they come and go just like the chest and back pains.

>I am not sure what is going on......I just know that my body is

>unhappy and giving me signs, and I am telling

>the doctors, but no one is listening. No one

>is trying to put the puzzel pieces together for

>me.....I feel in my heart that it is all connected......

> I take the nexium or prilosec during the day,

> and it does nothing for me....nothing at

> all.....If I am going to have a problem with gerds, it happens reguardless.

>

>Meanwhile, I have those 3rd beats alot, 20-30

>times a day ? ? and this weird warm feeling in

>my chest when it happens, and a funny feeling in

>my neck, and sometimes my jaws ache.

>The whole trunk of my body on the insides is

>sore off and on, and then I get this sorta warm

>burney feeling all inside my guts,

>almost feeling really toxic.

>

>I have alot of trunk pain, and soreness, and

>pain in the lung and kidney areas. I also have

>this feeling under my right ribs, it feels like

>a ball is in there. and it hurts, and sometimes

>when I breath it feels like my ribs are scraping

>it and making it raw. It is really strange. I

>have this big lump on the right side of my neck by

>my collar bone, it is between a golf ball and tennis ball size.

>A smaller one on the left side. It is sore when I press in on it,

>and it is soft, but the right sided one is

>getting bigger, and it is over my collar bone

>now. The lymph nodes on either side of

>my jaws are pretty big, about an inch or inch and a half each,

>and both are sore. They have been there a very long time.

>

>Please pray for me, as I do not know what else

>to do at this point.....Again, I am handing it

>all over to God.... I am at a total

>loss, and I will trust he will guide me.

>

>Love Dede

>

>

>

>

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Oh Dede . . . . another bad experience . . . I'm so sorry! I hoped you would get some answers, not more grief.I wish there was something I could do to help you get through this . . . One thought does come to mind . . . the massage therapist who worked with me during radiation showed me how to gently (she called it the weight of a nickel) massage the lymph nodes. Gently stroke them down towards the center of your chest to help them drain. . . That may give you a bit of relief. Hopefully some of those other patients will complain to the doctor about how you were treated. If I witnessed something like that, I certainly would!Sending you healing energy . . . Hugs and prayers,Love,Rogene

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Hello Patty ~

Yes, that would be the place I go......

I have a letter written already and will

send it to both of my doctors there.

They have been kind in the past to me

and they have even written off somewhere

around a hundred grand, I would think....unless

they finally got paid my medicare for back

things. Anyway, I will take care of reporting

this gal to my doctors.

I would almost bet that they already know....

One of my biggest problems here, is I owe so

much money to all the places. I have had

numerous hospitalizations in the last 3 years.

They sure rack up the charges for my diagnoses.

Not the care I get, but the diagnoses.

I have spoken with so called patient advocates

at different times. I do not qualify for medicade.

or SSI. I am stuck in a weird spot.

I refuse to give people my banking information for

public knowledge. I just wont do it. This is what

they want each time I have spoken with any of them.

They want to confirm things I tell them, it is just not

their business. I also dont have the strength to fight

anyone that may pull any type fraud.

This happened to me 3 years ago just over 3 grand someone

opened up a credit card under my name and charged a couple

tickets on british airways. It took me around 7 months to

get it all streightened out, dealing with horribly rude people.

I just will not go thru that again.

I hate it that doctors are privy to our entire life by insisting on

useing our social security numbers as our ID, insurance ID, and chart numbers. That is just wrong. It gives access to far too many individuals to our private lives.

That is a huge reason for so much illegal crap going on.

I havent decided what to do quite yet. I may put the ball

in Doc's court and let him decide if I need to see someone

else.

He has told me before that he will see me reguardless,

and he will work with me.

If he didnt want to help me any longer, then why hasnt he

sent me a 30 day change doctors letter ??

Legally, a doctor can send you a letter telling you he/she no longer

wants to see you, and that he is giving you 30 days to find someone

new, and that he will see you until then for emergencies only .

Anyway, By monday morning, I will know what my agenda

is........I can guarantee you this, I will handle it with dignity,

and grace !

Love

Dede

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Patty, I have no idea what these are. No earthly idea

at all.

If I have the CT of my abdomen and chest, I am hoping

it will show something there.

For the last 3 years I have gone from doctor to doctor,

all telling me I have all these things wrong and I am such

a complicated case, no one treating me, just passing me

around and charging the hell out of me for nothing !

I dont need to be charged several hundred dollars to

be told I have alot going on........I already know that.....

They see me, with all my diagnoses and they see dollar signs.

That is it. What happened to that doctor that actually loved

doctoring, and interesting cases that it took brains and thinking

to diagnose, and then when they finally are successful they

had fun, and are happy in their accomplishment.

I need a doctor like House.......someone that works til they

solve the puzzel.

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Dede,

I can hardly contain my disgust and anger at the way you were

treated...and I know it was ten times worse for you Dede, going

through it. I wonder how she would respond if she was asked if she

wanted her mother treated that way? She should be ashamed of herself,

and this instance of abuse reported.

Is this the office you went to?

Post Oak Centre North

2200 Park Bend Drive

Building 2, Suite 300

Austin, Texas 78758

Office hours: Monday - Friday

8:30am - 5:30pm

Phone: (512) 617-6000

Toll-Free: (800) 555-5595

Fax: (512) 339-7743

I see they have a toll free number....I wonder if it would help if we

called to express our dismay at such treatment at their office?

Dede, you need to take some time to relax as much as possible. How

about a patient advocate? Do you have any such thing in your city?

Is there any professionals at your church that may help you in the

medical field?

It's such an awful thing the way medicine is conducted in this

country. It's my goal to stay as far away from these people as

possible, but for those who have to go, I pray you can find the right

person to see. Dede, can you find a different doctor?

Hugs,

Patty

>

> Hello Lea ~

> How are you today ? ? I am still trying to come up

> with the right words to describe my appointment

> yesterday diplomatically and with grace.

>

> So far any words that even come close to nice are

> in the far distance in relationship to my experience.

>

> I left there with no knowledge at all about myself,

> or my condition at all.....absolutely none !

>

> As far as the business office and their treatment

> of me, in front of an entire full waiting room, I left

> crying out of complete and total frustrantion and humility.

>

> The entire rest of the day, I just sank into.....what had just

> happened. I went in very ill, and came out feeling totally

> berated.

>

> Next to the arrogant way the two doctors that sent me

> home to die, back in September of 05, I have never

> ever been treated so horribly, and to top it off, it was in front

> of a full waiting room of people, I cannot express the depth

> of embarrasment and humiliation I felt ....

>

> As I was checking out, the girl at the desk, very kindly said to

> me, " You are on medicare disability, an 80/20 plan, and your

portion is

> $18.41. " I said, ok, I am sorry, I did not bring a check today, I

did give

> you all a check on tuesday when I was here,

> and I will bring one in on friday when I come for my CT's. If you

will

> please try to figure out how much my part for that day will

> be, I will bring a check when I come in for the full amount. "

> I also said, " I worked in the med field 26 years and I know your

> position, and I am sorry I dont have payment with me "

>

> So, she went to have someone figure that out for me. I waited

around, had

> my blood drawn and all, then the girl brought the amount to me on a

slip of

> paper, then some other gal came up to the window too, and said " We

have to have

> payment right now, payment is required at the time of the visit " , I

> patiently told her,

> " I am sorry, I did not bring a check today, as I told this gal, I

will bring

> it friday, and give it to you all when I come in, for todays,

> visit and for my part on the ct's. " She said to me, " Well, we

require a

> payment today " and looked at me with disgust.

>

> I then said, " Again, I am sorry, I do not have a method of

payment with

> me, I cannot give you what I do not have. Then I told her , " I

worked in the

> field for a very long time, 26 years

> and I understand the difficulties of your position, I will bring

payment in

> and give it to you all when I come in for the full amount. "

>

> Then she leaned over the counter at me, put her hand on the counter

to hold

> herself steady, and then she got in my face and

> said, " You have a balance of $ 491.79 and you have to pay that

before you

> can have any more treatments here. You can go to the hospital and

have them

> done, they can absorb what you cant pay there, but we cant "

>

> I was shocked, I couldnt believe she just got in my face with her mean

> agressive look, and that smirk, and said that to me. I thought she

was going to

> jump across and attack me. ( that is how she made me feel, anyway)

>

> I again, patiently said, " I paid 40 dollars towards my balance

tuesday,

> would you like to see a copy of it? " (The balance on my receipt

from tuesday said

> that my portion due was $ 57.88 .)

> She said.. " NO " .....I said " Please go talk to Dr Venegoni,

> he said he would work with me. " She said, " Well, we dont

> do it that way anymore, we require payment in full at the time

> of service, and you also owe almost 500 dollars "

>

> I told her " I will try to pay 40 towards my balance every month

> plus my part when I am here " and she said " We wont do the ct's on

you til

> its paid. " Then she said , " I will go talk to Dr Venegoni, "

she walked

> around the office a bit, and came back and said, " I will have him

call you, "

> I said, you dont need to do that, then she said " I will have the

> administrator call you. " I said,

> " no need, please just give her a note that I will try to pay 40

towards my

> balance per month " Then I said " I live on disability, less than

900 a

> month, I can not give what I dont have " , she leaned in to my face

again, and

> with that mean evil look with that smirk, and she said, " I dont

care " we

> cant run a business without full payment, " I said please just

tell her I will

> try to

> pay 40 dollars a month. I walked out crying.....

> She can have the whole office call me, but that is not going

> to change things and make money grow at my house, only

> waste their time and make them frustrated. I honestly dont

> see why it would have been so hard for her to have been kind

> to me about the whole thing, even done it in private and

> not in front of everyone, and how hard would it have been

> for her to make a quick note on a sticky to let the business

> office know I planned to pay 40 a month til the balance was

> gone.

>

> I also dont see how a $ 57.88 balance from tuesday grew to a

> balance of $ 491.79 by friday, all my portion, and there was no way

by that

> point that I was going to talk to anyone further there about

> anything........The increase from 57 to 491 in a couple days was my

initial shock, that left me

> for a loss of words. No, my initial shock was that Dr Canby wanted

my heart

> muscle strength checked, as he felt the cardiomyopathy was

progressing , and Dr

> Venegoni said since I had one this year, I couldnt. I suppose medicare

> wouldnt pay well for a second one in a years time, I am not sure.

>

> Anyway, I had chest pain and upper back pain all night, sometimes it is

> squeezing hard, and then in the middle of the night I was having

muscles grabbing,

> and then acid coming up into my mouth, and a horrible cough I took a

Nexium,

> and I finally went back to sleep.

> I have these hot spells, no sweats, just I get real hot and nausiated

> badly, and they come and go just like the chest and back pains.

> I am not sure what is going on......I just know that my body is

> unhappy and giving me signs, and I am telling the doctors, but no

one is

> listening. No one is trying to put the puzzel pieces together for

me.....I feel

> in my heart that it is all connected......

> I take the nexium or prilosec during the day, and it does nothing for

> me....nothing at all.....If I am going to have a problem with gerds,

it happens

> reguardless.

>

> Meanwhile, I have those 3rd beats alot, 20-30 times a day ? ? and

this weird

> warm feeling in my chest when it happens, and a funny feeling in my

neck, and

> sometimes my jaws ache.

> The whole trunk of my body on the insides is sore off and on, and

then I get

> this sorta warm burney feeling all inside my guts,

> almost feeling really toxic.

>

> I have alot of trunk pain, and soreness, and pain in the lung and

kidney

> areas. I also have this feeling under my right ribs, it feels like

a ball is in

> there. and it hurts, and sometimes when I breath it feels like my

ribs are

> scraping it and making it raw. It is really strange. I have this

big lump on

> the right side of my neck by

> my collar bone, it is between a golf ball and tennis ball size.

> A smaller one on the left side. It is sore when I press in on it,

> and it is soft, but the right sided one is getting bigger, and it

is over my

> collar bone now. The lymph nodes on either side of

> my jaws are pretty big, about an inch or inch and a half each,

> and both are sore. They have been there a very long time.

>

> Please pray for me, as I do not know what else to do at this

point.....Again,

> I am handing it all over to God.... I am at a total

> loss, and I will trust he will guide me.

>

> Love Dede

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dede,

Are these lumps silicone gel?

Patty

>

> Hello Rogene ~

> Thank you for the kind words.....Yes, it was

> totally .......I am not sure what a word would

> be.

> No answers......

> I know something is horribly wrong tho....

> I am just not sure what.

> Maybe I am in process of healing and having

> my miracle, and the process is just making

> me feel really bad.

> OK, it would be nice, tho......

> I have massaged the lymph nodes off and on

> for years, and they just stay the same.....

> What is weird, my EX hubby is here and mowing

> my lawn and visiting, and he pointed out I have another

> lump on my neck right in the very center at the top of where

> my collar bone starts. So on either side at the base of my

> neck and also in the very center.....

> I am turning into a giant puff ball with lumps and bumps

> and nodules everywhere........

> I look like Verruca on Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

> movie, just not blue....

> Anyway..........Thank you for the healing energy, love and hugs

> I sure need them right now ! ! I hope you are feeling good, and

> you have a lovely day. I love you ~

> Dede

>

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Oh Dede,

I can't believe how people are treated when they are sick,

especially when they don't have money, and it is outrageous how this

woman behaved. I'm so sorry that you had to go through this. I

would insist on them providing you with some sort of documentation

explaining how your balance went from under $100 to nearly $500.

Sis

>

> Hello Lea ~

> How are you today ? ? I am still trying to come up

> with the right words to describe my appointment

> yesterday diplomatically and with grace.

>

> So far any words that even come close to nice are

> in the far distance in relationship to my experience.

>

> I left there with no knowledge at all about myself,

> or my condition at all.....absolutely none !

>

> As far as the business office and their treatment

> of me, in front of an entire full waiting room, I left

> crying out of complete and total frustrantion and humility.

>

> The entire rest of the day, I just sank into.....what had just

> happened. I went in very ill, and came out feeling totally

> berated.

>

> Next to the arrogant way the two doctors that sent me

> home to die, back in September of 05, I have never

> ever been treated so horribly, and to top it off, it was in front

> of a full waiting room of people, I cannot express the depth

> of embarrasment and humiliation I felt ....

>

> As I was checking out, the girl at the desk, very kindly said to

> me, " You are on medicare disability, an 80/20 plan, and your

portion is

> $18.41. " I said, ok, I am sorry, I did not bring a check today,

I did give

> you all a check on tuesday when I was here,

> and I will bring one in on friday when I come for my CT's. If

you will

> please try to figure out how much my part for that day will

> be, I will bring a check when I come in for the full amount. "

> I also said, " I worked in the med field 26 years and I know your

> position, and I am sorry I dont have payment with me "

>

> So, she went to have someone figure that out for me. I waited

around, had

> my blood drawn and all, then the girl brought the amount to me on

a slip of

> paper, then some other gal came up to the window too, and said "

We have to have

> payment right now, payment is required at the time of the visit " ,

I

> patiently told her,

> " I am sorry, I did not bring a check today, as I told this gal, I

will bring

> it friday, and give it to you all when I come in, for todays,

> visit and for my part on the ct's. " She said to me, " Well, we

require a

> payment today " and looked at me with disgust.

>

> I then said, " Again, I am sorry, I do not have a method of

payment with

> me, I cannot give you what I do not have. Then I told her , " I

worked in the

> field for a very long time, 26 years

> and I understand the difficulties of your position, I will bring

payment in

> and give it to you all when I come in for the full amount. "

>

> Then she leaned over the counter at me, put her hand on the

counter to hold

> herself steady, and then she got in my face and

> said, " You have a balance of $ 491.79 and you have to pay that

before you

> can have any more treatments here. You can go to the hospital and

have them

> done, they can absorb what you cant pay there, but we cant "

>

> I was shocked, I couldnt believe she just got in my face with her

mean

> agressive look, and that smirk, and said that to me. I thought

she was going to

> jump across and attack me. ( that is how she made me feel,

anyway)

>

> I again, patiently said, " I paid 40 dollars towards my balance

tuesday,

> would you like to see a copy of it? " (The balance on my receipt

from tuesday said

> that my portion due was $ 57.88 .)

> She said.. " NO " .....I said " Please go talk to Dr Venegoni,

> he said he would work with me. " She said, " Well, we dont

> do it that way anymore, we require payment in full at the time

> of service, and you also owe almost 500 dollars "

>

> I told her " I will try to pay 40 towards my balance every month

> plus my part when I am here " and she said " We wont do the ct's

on you til

> its paid. " Then she said , " I will go talk to Dr Venegoni, "

she walked

> around the office a bit, and came back and said, " I will have him

call you, "

> I said, you dont need to do that, then she said " I will have

the

> administrator call you. " I said,

> " no need, please just give her a note that I will try to pay 40

towards my

> balance per month " Then I said " I live on disability, less

than 900 a

> month, I can not give what I dont have " , she leaned in to my

face again, and

> with that mean evil look with that smirk, and she said, " I dont

care " we

> cant run a business without full payment, " I said please just

tell her I will

> try to

> pay 40 dollars a month. I walked out crying.....

> She can have the whole office call me, but that is not going

> to change things and make money grow at my house, only

> waste their time and make them frustrated. I honestly dont

> see why it would have been so hard for her to have been kind

> to me about the whole thing, even done it in private and

> not in front of everyone, and how hard would it have been

> for her to make a quick note on a sticky to let the business

> office know I planned to pay 40 a month til the balance was

> gone.

>

> I also dont see how a $ 57.88 balance from tuesday grew to a

> balance of $ 491.79 by friday, all my portion, and there was no

way by that

> point that I was going to talk to anyone further there about

> anything........The increase from 57 to 491 in a couple days was

my initial shock, that left me

> for a loss of words. No, my initial shock was that Dr Canby

wanted my heart

> muscle strength checked, as he felt the cardiomyopathy was

progressing , and Dr

> Venegoni said since I had one this year, I couldnt. I suppose

medicare

> wouldnt pay well for a second one in a years time, I am not

sure.

>

> Anyway, I had chest pain and upper back pain all night, sometimes

it is

> squeezing hard, and then in the middle of the night I was having

muscles grabbing,

> and then acid coming up into my mouth, and a horrible cough I took

a Nexium,

> and I finally went back to sleep.

> I have these hot spells, no sweats, just I get real hot and

nausiated

> badly, and they come and go just like the chest and back pains.

> I am not sure what is going on......I just know that my body is

> unhappy and giving me signs, and I am telling the doctors, but no

one is

> listening. No one is trying to put the puzzel pieces together

for me.....I feel

> in my heart that it is all connected......

> I take the nexium or prilosec during the day, and it does

nothing for

> me....nothing at all.....If I am going to have a problem with

gerds, it happens

> reguardless.

>

> Meanwhile, I have those 3rd beats alot, 20-30 times a day ? ? and

this weird

> warm feeling in my chest when it happens, and a funny feeling in

my neck, and

> sometimes my jaws ache.

> The whole trunk of my body on the insides is sore off and on, and

then I get

> this sorta warm burney feeling all inside my guts,

> almost feeling really toxic.

>

> I have alot of trunk pain, and soreness, and pain in the lung and

kidney

> areas. I also have this feeling under my right ribs, it feels

like a ball is in

> there. and it hurts, and sometimes when I breath it feels like my

ribs are

> scraping it and making it raw. It is really strange. I have this

big lump on

> the right side of my neck by

> my collar bone, it is between a golf ball and tennis ball size.

> A smaller one on the left side. It is sore when I press in on

it,

> and it is soft, but the right sided one is getting bigger, and it

is over my

> collar bone now. The lymph nodes on either side of

> my jaws are pretty big, about an inch or inch and a half each,

> and both are sore. They have been there a very long time.

>

> Please pray for me, as I do not know what else to do at this

point.....Again,

> I am handing it all over to God.... I am at a total

> loss, and I will trust he will guide me.

>

> Love Dede

>

>

>

>

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