Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 I call that the creeping tireds. It OIS from adrenals but what happens is oyu had built up cortiosl reserves and went down a bit too fast and they are being depletes. I would go bakc uo a bit and hold for a coupe weeks then try agin to lower. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 So, would you suggest going back up to 7.5? What do you think about taking something to help the adrenals, like licorice, instead of HC? > > I call that the creeping tireds. It OIS from adrenals but what happens > is oyu had built up cortiosl reserves and went down a bit too fast and > they are being depletes. I would go bakc uo a bit and hold for a coupe > weeks then try agin to lower. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 >>So, would you suggest going back up to 7.5? What do you think about taking something to help the adrenals, like licorice, instead of HC? << You could certainyl try that. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Hi Val, ok I bumped back up to 7.5mg HC, dosing 2.5 each time. I started this yesterday and have some relief but not much. What would happen is I changed the dosing around to something like 5mg forst thing AM then 2.5 for 2nd dose?? Will that cause me to be sleepy later in the day? Why is it that I tapered down just fine until I hit 5mg then I hit a wall?? 7.5 is such a little amount, why would 5mg be such a drastic difference. I am really trying to get off this stuff. Does this mean that I have damaged my adrenals and that I can't get off the HC. I feel like going back up to 7.5 totally defeats my purpose but I did it anyway. > > >>So, would you suggest going back up to 7.5? What do you think about > taking something to help the adrenals, like licorice, instead of > HC? << > > You could certainyl try that. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Hi Val, Ok, I bumped back up to 7.5 yesterday, dosing 2.5 3x per day. When will I notice a difference?? I am noticing muscle wakness, general lack of energy and less stamina although today I am less tired. I am also noticing achilles tendon pain which I always thought was thyroid related but now I don't know. Why would going down to 5mg from 7.5 cause such a drastic change?? What would happen if I dosed 5mg then 2.5 and only dosed 2x per day?? Would the 5mg in the AM cause me to be tired later? I did have some licorice but I threw it away as I thought it was causing high bp at the time but it was probably just the high amount of HC. Should I leave my armour/thyroid S at 3 grains or bump that up since I bumped up HC?? Thanks! > > >>So, would you suggest going back up to 7.5? What do you think about > taking something to help the adrenals, like licorice, instead of > HC? << > > You could certainyl try that. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Sometimes you need to slow the lowering down and hold for a while at a dose this allows your adrenlas to adjuts. Sometimes you get to say 10MG and have to hold there for a month. It can be abywhere along the way, but it is only a temporary thing. I feel pretty goof that gettign this low your adrenals are trying to functin and doing pretty well, many folkd have to be on HC for 2 years to get to this point. PATIENCE. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 You need to hold these same doses for a while to allow your body to adjust. Do the temp graphing for 4-5 days and see if you need more thyrid or jsust bumoing the HC up a tad for another couple weeks. Adrenals change very slowly, and I think youare doing wonderful but you need to go slow and this is normal to have some setbacks where you have to go baklc a bit and hold then try agian to lower. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Opps! I thought my original post didn't post so I posted another...it was an accident. YES, I agree and I feel really good about getting all the way down to 7.5 without getting sick and virtually no bad things happening to me:) What do you think about my dosing schedule that I proposed below?? Or should I just stick with dosing 2.5mg 3x per day... How long do I stay at 7.5 before I decide that maybe 10mg was were I need to hold for awhile? I think it was 7.5 were I felt good and jumped the gun to quickly and lowered but not sure how many days it will take to kick in... Thanks! > > Sometimes you need to slow the lowering down and hold for a while at a > dose this allows your adrenlas to adjuts. Sometimes you get to say 10MG > and have to hold there for a month. It can be abywhere along the way, > but it is only a temporary thing. I feel pretty goof that gettign this > low your adrenals are trying to functin and doing pretty well, many > folkd have to be on HC for 2 years to get to this point. PATIENCE. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 2.5 three time s a day shoul be less supressive of your own adrenal funcitn so that woul dbe my choice while youare trying to taper down. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Ok, thank you very much! I am going to stay at 7.5 for at lease 3 weeks before trying to taper down to 5mg. Hopefully, I will start to feel the effects of adding the 3rd dose soon. > > 2.5 three time s a day shoul be less supressive of your own adrenal > funcitn so that woul dbe my choice while youare trying to taper down. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Val, I am REALLY frustrated! I have been back up to 7.5mg since my last post and I do not feel any worse OR better. I am wondering if I should just get off the HC? I am having pain in my achilles tendon, lowered energy and muscle weakness. I also upped thyroid S to 3 1/2 grains. The MOST disturbing side effect is hair loss and it has started back up again. I have plenty or regrowth but that doesn't mean anything if the hair I have keeps falling out! I am wondering if the switch from Armour to Thyroid-S could be the cause. I am not sure what to do. PLUS, I feel like I am losing inches but not weight, is that a hypo thing?? PLUS I gained 3 lbs a little while ago and cannot lose it. My weight has consistently stayed the same for 2 years...what the heck happened. My temps are stable and good too. I am not too tired like I was but the other side effects are not going away. Any thoughts? > > > > 2.5 three time s a day shoul be less supressive of your own adrenal > > funcitn so that woul dbe my choice while youare trying to taper down. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 It might eb a good thing to have RT3 tested as this kind of sounds liek you could be thyroid resistant. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 What is Thyroid S ?? I have been on Armour for 2 months and my hair is falling out like crazy - I can't believe I'm not bald yet! I'm considering going on HC - I'm on Isocort right now, but Val thinks that won't be enough for me since my labs were so depressed. How is HC working for you? Have you tried to heal your adrenals FIRST before doing Thyroid med? What was your thyroid test score? jazzergirl2000 wrote: Val, I am REALLY frustrated! I have been back up to 7.5mg since my last post and I do not feel any worse OR better. I am wondering if I should just get off the HC? I am having pain in my achilles tendon, lowered energy and muscle weakness. I also upped thyroid S to 3 1/2 grains. The MOST disturbing side effect is hair loss and it has started back up again. I have plenty or regrowth but that doesn't mean anything if the hair I have keeps falling out! I am wondering if the switch from Armour to Thyroid-S could be the cause. I am not sure what to do. PLUS, I feel like I am losing inches but not weight, is that a hypo thing?? PLUS I gained 3 lbs a little while ago and cannot lose it. My weight has consistently stayed the same for 2 years...what the heck happened. My temps are stable and good too. I am not too tired like I was but the other side effects are not going away. Any thoughts? > > > > 2.5 three time s a day shoul be less supressive of your own adrenal > > funcitn so that woul dbe my choice while youare trying to taper down. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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