RE: ROLL CALL FORGET IT

[Guest guest]

I think you made a wise choice. I know at times I tend to lurk (not too

often), for reasons beyond my control sometimes, but I choose to stay so I

can go back and read everything I may have missed. I can understand people

that have NEVER talked EVER, but I know some people who join lists just to

read everyone's input, but until they come out of their shells, they refuse

to talk, and that's o.k., as some people simply just feel like they're the

" only " people living with this disease. I personally think over time, that

many will join in, once they get to know more about what we do, and if at

that point they decide to leave, that's their decision to make.

Dawn

ROLL CALL FORGET IT

Hey everyone forget the roll call. What started off as an idea for list

management seems to knock be totally kink free. I don't want anyone to think

I'm trying to kick anyone off. I'm not. Its just we have more lurkers than

posters and lately I've had a rash of notices from egroups about people

bouncing their email accts. When that happens I have 3 choices. Ignore it ..

so the mail keeps bouncing to them and back to me .. 2) reset them .. and 3)

unsub them.

Well for awhile I chose #1 .. but then I was getting admin notices

constantly. So I started doing # 2 .. then the same people were bouncing

again a few days later so its obvious to me they aren't reading their emails

... then I started going option # 3 ..

Thats what started me down this path of a roll call idea. However I can

appreciate that more than a few lurkers are reading and learning and

appreciating otherwise I can't understand why we have over 122 people on the

list. BUT in the same hand we seem to have so many people join, lurk, never

post and then leave .. I was merely trying to do some housecleaning of sorts

...

However .. since Jo and now (hey great to see you post btw!) come out

of the woodwork to express another side to it I will leave it as is.

So for now I will just say if you find yourself unsubbed and do not know why

you likely bounced over to me more than twice .. and I let you go as I

cannot keep continually resetting people if they can't manage their emails,

ie go to no mail, digest, etc, etc

Thanks everyone. I just want to make the list work the best way for YOU as

possible.

Lyssa - list owner.

[Guest guest]

hey Sue

, How the hell are ya? Missed you at the meeting on Wednesday,

everybody was there. But, I didn't hear from you as to whether you wanted to

go. I haven't been avoiding you but I really have been feeling lousy the past

week or so. Just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of ya ok?

Love Don

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am a " lurker " , mostly because I love this list but I am preop and

usually don't have anything helpful to say. When I first joined this

group it was evident right away that I couldn't keep up with all the

e-mails so I went " no-mail " . I can still read all the messages when I

have time and don't have to worry about keeping up with the e-mail.

Sue

> I agree... good decision... I am guilty of always getting to my

mail late... I have over 4000 e-mails to read still... I can not

delete till I look at them.. I am trying to get better and try to

read the newest everyday and then work on some of the older mail... I

don't want to miss a thing.. yet sometimes life gets soooo wicked

busy that I am to exhausted to even read my mail at night... I love

this group and would never want to be deleted from it..

> *hugs

> *Wickedbob akaPAM

> open RNY 6/26/00

> 235/185/125

> Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams

> ROLL CALL FORGET IT

>

>

>

> Hey everyone forget the roll call. What started off as an idea

for list

> management seems to knock be totally kink free. I don't want

anyone to think

> I'm trying to kick anyone off. I'm not. Its just we have more

lurkers than

> posters and lately I've had a rash of notices from egroups about

people

> bouncing their email accts. When that happens I have 3 choices.

Ignore it ..

> so the mail keeps bouncing to them and back to me .. 2) reset

them .. and 3)

> unsub them.

> Well for awhile I chose #1 .. but then I was getting admin notices

> constantly. So I started doing # 2 .. then the same people were

bouncing

> again a few days later so its obvious to me they aren't reading

their emails

> .. then I started going option # 3 ..

> Thats what started me down this path of a roll call idea. However

I can

> appreciate that more than a few lurkers are reading and learning

and

> appreciating otherwise I can't understand why we have over 122

people on the

> list. BUT in the same hand we seem to have so many people join,

lurk, never

> post and then leave .. I was merely trying to do some

housecleaning of sorts

> ..

> However .. since Jo and now (hey great to see you post

btw!) come out

> of the woodwork to express another side to it I will leave it as

is.

> So for now I will just say if you find yourself unsubbed and do

not know why

> you likely bounced over to me more than twice .. and I let you go

as I

> cannot keep continually resetting people if they can't manage

their emails,

> ie go to no mail, digest, etc, etc

>

> Thanks everyone. I just want to make the list work the best way

for YOU as

> possible.

> Lyssa - list owner.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Bud,

I don't know what it is, but I've been so down lately (like the last

few years LOL) I can't even talk to people. Maybe it's something in

the air but I just sit and cry all the time. I keep telling myself

things will get better but I've been doing that for so long I really

don't believe it anymore. Then, just in case a little optimism tried

to shove it's way through my little haze of self-pity, I discover I'm

no.5 on the list of people getting kicked off this list for not

posting enough, but with this kind of crap running through my head

all the time I don't post because who would want to read this? I

don't think Lyssa was trying to be mean but with a basket case like

me it doesn't take much. So anyway, I have finished whining and feel

much better. So what's new with you?

Love,Sue

> hey Sue

> , How the hell are ya? Missed you at the meeting on

Wednesday,

> everybody was there. But, I didn't hear from you as to whether you

wanted to

> go. I haven't been avoiding you but I really have been feeling

lousy the past

> week or so. Just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of ya ok?

> Love Don

[Guest guest]

I agree... good decision... I am guilty of always getting to my mail late... I have over 4000 e-mails to read still... I can not delete till I look at them.. I am trying to get better and try to read the newest everyday and then work on some of the older mail... I don't want to miss a thing.. yet sometimes life gets soooo wicked busy that I am to exhausted to even read my mail at night... I love this group and would never want to be deleted from it..

*hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/185/125Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams

RE: ROLL CALL FORGET IT

I think you made a wise choice. I know at times I tend to lurk (not toooften), for reasons beyond my control sometimes, but I choose to stay so Ican go back and read everything I may have missed. I can understand peoplethat have NEVER talked EVER, but I know some people who join lists just toread everyone's input, but until they come out of their shells, they refuseto talk, and that's o.k., as some people simply just feel like they're the"only" people living with this disease. I personally think over time, thatmany will join in, once they get to know more about what we do, and if atthat point they decide to leave, that's their decision to make.Dawn-----Original Message-----From: Lyssa Foulkes Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:54 PMTo: OSSG-NewEnglandegroupsSubject: ROLL CALL FORGET ITHey everyone forget the roll call. What started off as an idea for listmanagement seems to knock be totally kink free. I don't want anyone to thinkI'm trying to kick anyone off. I'm not. Its just we have more lurkers thanposters and lately I've had a rash of notices from egroups about peoplebouncing their email accts. When that happens I have 3 choices. Ignore it ..so the mail keeps bouncing to them and back to me .. 2) reset them .. and 3)unsub them.Well for awhile I chose #1 .. but then I was getting admin noticesconstantly. So I started doing # 2 .. then the same people were bouncingagain a few days later so its obvious to me they aren't reading their emails.. then I started going option # 3 ..Thats what started me down this path of a roll call idea. However I canappreciate that more than a few lurkers are reading and learning andappreciating otherwise I can't understand why we have over 122 people on thelist. BUT in the same hand we seem to have so many people join, lurk, neverpost and then leave .. I was merely trying to do some housecleaning of sorts..However .. since Jo and now (hey great to see you post btw!) come outof the woodwork to express another side to it I will leave it as is.So for now I will just say if you find yourself unsubbed and do not know whyyou likely bounced over to me more than twice .. and I let you go as Icannot keep continually resetting people if they can't manage their emails,ie go to no mail, digest, etc, etcThanks everyone. I just want to make the list work the best way for YOU aspossible.Lyssa - list owner.

[Guest guest]

Sue..

Good to see you post... when I was pre-op I found lots of useful info and support here also.. I did not post much.. but just wanted to let you know that if you need to vent your feelings or have any kinda questions this is the place for them.. Lots of awesome caring people here. So pop out of lurk land sometimes and let us all know how you are doing ok..:) Do you have your surgery date yet??

*hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/185/125Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams

ROLL CALL FORGET IT> > > > Hey everyone forget the roll call. What started off as an idea for list> management seems to knock be totally kink free. I don't want anyone to think> I'm trying to kick anyone off. I'm not. Its just we have more lurkers than> posters and lately I've had a rash of notices from egroups about people> bouncing their email accts. When that happens I have 3 choices. Ignore it ..> so the mail keeps bouncing to them and back to me .. 2) reset them .. and 3)> unsub them.> Well for awhile I chose #1 .. but then I was getting admin notices> constantly. So I started doing # 2 .. then the same people were bouncing> again a few days later so its obvious to me they aren't reading their emails> .. then I started going option # 3 ..> Thats what started me down this path of a roll call idea. However I can> appreciate that more than a few lurkers are reading and learning and> appreciating otherwise I can't understand why we have over 122 people on the> list. BUT in the same hand we seem to have so many people join, lurk, never> post and then leave .. I was merely trying to do some housecleaning of sorts> ..> However .. since Jo and now (hey great to see you post btw!) come out> of the woodwork to express another side to it I will leave it as is.> So for now I will just say if you find yourself unsubbed and do not know why> you likely bounced over to me more than twice .. and I let you go as I> cannot keep continually resetting people if they can't manage their emails,> ie go to no mail, digest, etc, etc> > Thanks everyone. I just want to make the list work the best way for YOU as> possible.> Lyssa - list owner.> > >

[Guest guest]

Pam,

Thanks for the encouragement but I think maybe I vented too much.

Anyway, to answer your question, I called the doctor about a month

ago but the list is so long now my preliminary appointment is at the

end of november. But if all goes well, I'll get a date soon after

that. I wish it was tomorrow. Oh well, back to lurk land for now..

Sue

-- In OSSG-NewEnglandegroups, " Pam " <hollymarie1.geo@y...> wrote:

> Sue..

> Good to see you post... when I was pre-op I found lots of useful

info and support here also.. I did not post much.. but just wanted to

let you know that if you need to vent your feelings or have any kinda

questions this is the place for them.. Lots of awesome caring people

here. So pop out of lurk land sometimes and let us all know how you

are doing ok..:) Do you have your surgery date yet??

> *hugs

> *Wickedbob akaPAM

> open RNY 6/26/00

> 235/185/125

> Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams

> ROLL CALL FORGET IT

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey everyone forget the roll call. What started off as an

idea

> for list

> > management seems to knock be totally kink free. I don't want

> anyone to think

> > I'm trying to kick anyone off. I'm not. Its just we have more

> lurkers than

> > posters and lately I've had a rash of notices from egroups

about

> people

> > bouncing their email accts. When that happens I have 3

choices.

> Ignore it ..

> > so the mail keeps bouncing to them and back to me .. 2) reset

> them .. and 3)

> > unsub them.

> > Well for awhile I chose #1 .. but then I was getting admin

notices

> > constantly. So I started doing # 2 .. then the same people

were

> bouncing

> > again a few days later so its obvious to me they aren't

reading

> their emails

> > .. then I started going option # 3 ..

> > Thats what started me down this path of a roll call idea.

However

> I can

> > appreciate that more than a few lurkers are reading and

learning

> and

> > appreciating otherwise I can't understand why we have over

122

> people on the

> > list. BUT in the same hand we seem to have so many people

join,

> lurk, never

> > post and then leave .. I was merely trying to do some

> housecleaning of sorts

> > ..

> > However .. since Jo and now (hey great to see you post

> btw!) come out

> > of the woodwork to express another side to it I will leave it

as

> is.

> > So for now I will just say if you find yourself unsubbed and

do

> not know why

> > you likely bounced over to me more than twice .. and I let

you go

> as I

> > cannot keep continually resetting people if they can't manage

> their emails,

> > ie go to no mail, digest, etc, etc

> >

> > Thanks everyone. I just want to make the list work the best

way

> for YOU as

> > possible.

> > Lyssa - list owner.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sue,

What do you think this list is for? You gotta vent girl, vent.

These are the only people who know what you going through. And besides, did

your phone break or something? If it's any consolation, I have been feeling

blue myself. Maybe it is something in the air who the hell knows? The waiting

can be frustrating but your day is coming very soon. It'll be here before you

know it. I know you maybe don't want to hear that horseshit right now but

it's true. As far as Lyssa goes, I really don't think she meant anything by

it so don't let it get you. But if you don't post then people can't help you.

What the hell is the matter with ya? LOL. You'll be ok and if you need to

talk, you've got my number.

Love Don

[Guest guest]

Sue...

You watch ... your surgery date will be here soon.. time has a way of moving wicked fast... keep us informed on how things are going for you... :)

*hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/185/125Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams

ROLL CALL FORGET IT> > > > > > > > Hey everyone forget the roll call. What started off as an idea > for list> > management seems to knock be totally kink free. I don't want > anyone to think> > I'm trying to kick anyone off. I'm not. Its just we have more > lurkers than> > posters and lately I've had a rash of notices from egroups about > people> > bouncing their email accts. When that happens I have 3 choices. > Ignore it ..> > so the mail keeps bouncing to them and back to me .. 2) reset > them .. and 3)> > unsub them.> > Well for awhile I chose #1 .. but then I was getting admin notices> > constantly. So I started doing # 2 .. then the same people were > bouncing> > again a few days later so its obvious to me they aren't reading > their emails> > .. then I started going option # 3 ..> > Thats what started me down this path of a roll call idea. However > I can> > appreciate that more than a few lurkers are reading and learning > and> > appreciating otherwise I can't understand why we have over 122 > people on the> > list. BUT in the same hand we seem to have so many people join, > lurk, never> > post and then leave .. I was merely trying to do some > housecleaning of sorts> > ..> > However .. since Jo and now (hey great to see you post > btw!) come out> > of the woodwork to express another side to it I will leave it as > is.> > So for now I will just say if you find yourself unsubbed and do > not know why> > you likely bounced over to me more than twice .. and I let you go > as I> > cannot keep continually resetting people if they can't manage > their emails,> > ie go to no mail, digest, etc, etc> > > > Thanks everyone. I just want to make the list work the best way > for YOU as> > possible.> > Lyssa - list owner.> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dawn-When do you ever lurk? You seem pretty chatty to me. LOL! Have a

great weekend!

Steph

[Guest guest]

lurk, lurk, lurk...that's me

Dawn

Re: ROLL CALL FORGET IT

Dawn-When do you ever lurk? You seem pretty chatty to me. LOL! Have a

great weekend!

Steph