ROLL CALL PLEASE READ

September 22, 2000

Lea...

Good to see you post from lurkland... a agree with you that Lyssa is an awesome list owner and a wicked sweetie.. and you know what... at the first meeting I went to this week.. she was giving out some SPLENDA!! *L* This list is the best support I have seen since I have got on the WLS journey... How far north are you?? I live in Salisbury, MA.

*hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/185/125Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams

RE: ROLL CALL PLEASE READ

Ok I must jump in here. I am also mostly a lurker but do postoccasionally. I too feel somewhat secluded like Priscilla. I am not inLMH or NWH support groups and also live very far north that making theget togethers can be hard. But I also get a lot of support from thislist. I think that Lyssa is a great list owner and feel that this isthe best list I have been on. I have been on a list that ran and it was a disaster. Lyssa has even been as kind to send meSplenda at no charge so that I would be able to try it out and getsomeone in my area to carry it. Thank god Shaws finally is!I also get depressed at times and am seeing someone for it even thoughshe doesn't think meds are necessary for me. It helps to be able tocome here and read my emails. Even though I may not post that often Iget the support just from reading. I thank all of you for the supportand sorry for rambling.Lea

September 22, 2000

Lyssa:

I can understand why you are doing this; I just have one concern. I

participate as often as I can, but sometimes, during the week, it is too

hectic for me to read my mail, let alone do much responding, so more than 3

days could go by without seeing my name on your list. I certainly don't want

to unsubscribe as I love this group, so, if my name comes up, and you can

remember me out of all the members, PLEASE do not unsubscribe me. Thanks a

bunch!

Lois -

September 22, 2000

Lea

YIKES... I guess you are up north... I do bet it is beautiful up there tho.. Well this list is a great place for support and glad to have you here.. keep us updated on how you are doing.. take care

*hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/185/125Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams

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Pam,I live in Berlin, NH. Which is the biggest area in northern NH. It isonly 1 1/2 hrs away from the Canadian border. In fact it is mostly aFrench community. It is a rather rural area as some know. I do love ithere its just so removed from most things.Lea

September 22, 2000

Diane,

So glad you de-lurked to tell us! Please, please, please, don't take any

offense if we get personal, I honestly believe we try to make things more

" up " sometimes, especially since so many of us have been down lately. I

personally think it really helps to live a normal life (I know...no such

thing as normal), and NOT discuss WLS or related topics each and every day.

It keeps me sane (most of the time).

Take care, and just pop in and say hi once in a while. We miss hearing from

everyone.

Dawn

Re: ROLL CALL PLEASE READ

Hi Priscilla,

I too read every day and post once in a while. and it seems for the same

reasons you do. i have posted and felt ignore for the most part. i was

begining to think i did it wrong. i guess its part of our makeup. i dont

take rejection. it makes me shy away. i do learn alot everyday just in

reading the posts. i hear myself telling people what i have learned in this

group. maybe some day I/we will be more confident, and post more, but i

enjoy lurking and reading all i can.

Diane R.

September 22, 2000

Hi Lois,

Lyssa said she's not doing this afterall, just thought I'd tell you so you

dont' have to worry honey!

How are you?

Dawn

Re: ROLL CALL PLEASE READ

Lyssa:

I can understand why you are doing this; I just have one concern. I

participate as often as I can, but sometimes, during the week, it is too

hectic for me to read my mail, let alone do much responding, so more than 3

days could go by without seeing my name on your list. I certainly don't

want

to unsubscribe as I love this group, so, if my name comes up, and you can

remember me out of all the members, PLEASE do not unsubscribe me. Thanks a

bunch!

Lois -

September 23, 2000

mike, My weight was 250... when I got the surgery... To it me it catching it

before I was 300 or 350..Thi group i great for support... judt hang in

there...and like some said earlier..just jump i and say Hi..now and again..

Cheryl

11-29-99

250-155-135.

Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do

what it says on the aspirin bottle: Take two and keep away from children.

September 23, 2000

In a message dated 09/22/2000 6:10:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

huggybuggy@... writes:

<< Now, a year later, I'm back on them, at a higher dosage,

and have to realize that some people just need it to help them through the

seratonin thing in their heads. Not all people require med's to help

w/that, but in my case I do, and at first I did feel ashamed thinking " Now,

I've lost a lot of weight, I should feel good about myself " , however, even

though my esteem is drastically increased, weight isn't everything. There

are often times many underlying issues, that I didn't realize were bugging

the crap out of me, until I talked to many people, both on the list, and

professionally. >>

Dawn, I ave been on antidepressants for a few yers....it is nothiing to be

ashamed of ..That i why they are made ) I for one started an early

menopause> I was diagnosed with perimenopause at 35.... Not only were my

hormones bonko... but I began to feel like less of a woman. I remeber

crying,, thinking I won't be able to have more kids...LOL I didn't want

more....Too make this as short as possible... at almost

7 years later I still take them and may so for ever (an peri-monpause can be

forever !!)

Never beat your self up over taking drugs that help you to survive...

If you ever want tp talk about it email at cajass1@... have

been thru wuite a bit with my entire family with this.....

Smile!

cheryl

Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do

what it says on the aspirin bottle: Take two and keep away from children.

September 23, 2000

Hi Dawn:

Thank you for answering me. I feel better already. I really do enjoy

reading all your posts. and everynow and then i go back to the files to

refresh my memory of who you each are. i love looking at the before and

afters. again, thanks!

diane R.

September 23, 2000

Russ-I also felt depressed about 6 weeks after my surgery. I felt weak and

tired all the time and it seemed to be such a chore to figure out the proper

timing of drinks and meals. It seemed to take up my whole day and I felt

like I spent more time thinking about eating and weight before the surgery.

Also at 6 weeks out I hadn't lost that much weight so I still felt fat and

was questioning if I had done the right thing. Anyway, I think a lot of it

is physical. Surgery is a major shock and stressor to the body. And I

believe there is a strong mind-body connection, so it makes sense that your

emotions would be affected as well. For me it passed at about 8 weeks out

when I started to get my energy back. I didn't try to fight it. I just took

a lot of naps, allowed myself to feel shitty and had faith that it would

pass. Take good care of yourself and I hope you feel better soon!

Steph

September 23, 2000

Dawn,

You're such a sweetie. You seem to find time for everyone. I really

appreciated your little note. Lyssa's idea did get some of us out of the

woodwork (I can still feel the splinters!) I just don't know how often I can

write. I only have 1 kid, but I went from 260 to 315 in a short time, and I

just don't seem to have energy to do more than I do. I hate it!!!! Being

trapped in my own body like this. gee-can anyone here relate?

Anyhow...thanks for being you,

September 23, 2000

IMHO, I love all the back and forth silly chatter on this list. Makes me

smile on a bad day! For example, Lyssa is taking the age comment very well.

My self-esteem is so fragile that I would be calling a surgeon to schedule a

face lift right about now! LOL! Now Lyssa-please don't consider any more

plastic surgery! LOL! You look marvelous, dahling. Not a day over 29!

Steph

September 23, 2000

Dawn-Great post about meds! If you're brain doesn't produce enough of the

chemicals it needs to regulate moods you are going to feel depressed no

matter how much you weigh! We would never criticize anyone who needed meds

for diabetes or their heart and yet there is still such a stigma attached to

psych meds. The brain is an organ just like anything else. I applaud you're

honesty!

Hugs,

Steph

(who is very obsessive-compulsive and probably needs meds herself!)

September 23, 2000

Pam,

I won't comment on this one, as I can relate. I'm very glad you posted to

share some of your thoughts as well. You are a strong person just like many

of us, but I think some of us need to be set back onto the right track to

make us focus more on our daily lives, as opposed to thinking way too far

ahead. Take if ONE DAY at a time!

Hang in there sweetie!

Dawn

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Cheryl and Dawn,

I know about the underlying issues thing. It's strange because I

really thought I would have it all together if I could just lose the

weight. Before surgery I even believed I was a really tough person. I

could take anything and I wasen't sencitive at all. Boy was I

mistaken... My surgeon did fix my stomach but he should of done

something to my brain too (no jokes Dawn). Now That I can't eat, I can't

cope. My copeing skill is GONE. yikes! This is really scary for me. I

actually do not know how to cope without eatting. The last few months

for me has been very emotionaly draining. When I read about some of the

posts about people being depressed and not knowing why. I wonder if

maybe they are going through the same thing I am, but they haven't

figured it out yet. So for me, I know if I don't learn to cope with life

I will be destin to fail and gain this weight back. I hope everyone on

our list, all pre-ops and post-ops do not feel bad about posting if they

are feeling bad. It's very comforting to find out you are not the only

one. And at least one other person can relate to you, I know it is for

me at least. I'm not as tough as I thought, but I am learning how to be

a strong person without the food. Pam

On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 08:01:49 EDT cajass1@... writes:

> -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor

>

> In a message dated 09/22/2000 6:10:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> huggybuggy@... writes:

>

> << Now, a year later, I'm back on them, at a higher dosage,

> and have to realize that some people just need it to help them

> through the

> seratonin thing in their heads. Not all people require med's to

> help

> w/that, but in my case I do, and at first I did feel ashamed

> thinking " Now,

> I've lost a lot of weight, I should feel good about myself " ,

> however, even

> though my esteem is drastically increased, weight isn't everything.

> There

> are often times many underlying issues, that I didn't realize were

> bugging

> the crap out of me, until I talked to many people, both on the

> list, and

> professionally. >>

> Dawn, I ave been on antidepressants for a few yers....it is

> nothiing to be

> ashamed of ..That i why they are made ) I for one started an

> early

> menopause> I was diagnosed with perimenopause at 35.... Not only

> were my

> hormones bonko... but I began to feel like less of a woman. I

> remeber

> crying,, thinking I won't be able to have more kids...LOL I didn't

> want

> more....Too make this as short as possible... at almost

> 7 years later I still take them and may so for ever (an

> peri-monpause can be

> forever !!)

> Never beat your self up over taking drugs that help you to

> survive...

> If you ever want tp talk about it email at

> cajass1@... have

> been thru wuite a bit with my entire family with this.....

> Smile!

> cheryl

>

> Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a

> headache, do

> what it says on the aspirin bottle: Take two and keep away from

> children.

>

September 23, 2000

Thanks Cheryl,

I do realize I have to take them, otherwise, I wouldn't be able to cope,

function, or talk up a storm on line! Now that would suck wouldn't it!?!?!

LOL!

Dawn

Re: Re: ROLL CALL PLEASE READ

In a message dated 09/22/2000 6:10:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

huggybuggy@... writes:

<< Now, a year later, I'm back on them, at a higher dosage,

and have to realize that some people just need it to help them through the

seratonin thing in their heads. Not all people require med's to help

w/that, but in my case I do, and at first I did feel ashamed thinking " Now,

I've lost a lot of weight, I should feel good about myself " , however, even

though my esteem is drastically increased, weight isn't everything. There

are often times many underlying issues, that I didn't realize were bugging

the crap out of me, until I talked to many people, both on the list, and

professionally. >>

Dawn, I ave been on antidepressants for a few yers....it is nothiing to be

ashamed of ..That i why they are made ) I for one started an early

menopause> I was diagnosed with perimenopause at 35.... Not only were my

hormones bonko... but I began to feel like less of a woman. I remeber

crying,, thinking I won't be able to have more kids...LOL I didn't want

more....Too make this as short as possible... at almost

7 years later I still take them and may so for ever (an peri-monpause can be

forever !!)

Never beat your self up over taking drugs that help you to survive...

If you ever want tp talk about it email at cajass1@...

have

been thru wuite a bit with my entire family with this.....

Smile!

cheryl

Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do

what it says on the aspirin bottle: Take two and keep away from children.

September 23, 2000

Hey Cheryl,

You're absolutely right on that one. If I would have done this 200 lbs.

ago, I'd probably be at my goal weight, and not wondering how much longer

it'll take to get there.

CONGRATS on the STATS! You go girl!

Dawn

Re: ROLL CALL PLEASE READ

mike, My weight was 250... when I got the surgery... To it me it catching

it

before I was 300 or 350..Thi group i great for support... judt hang in

there...and like some said earlier..just jump i and say Hi..now and again..

Cheryl

11-29-99

250-155-135.

Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do

what it says on the aspirin bottle: Take two and keep away from children.

September 23, 2000

anytime sweetie!!

Dawn

Re: ROLL CALL PLEASE READ

Hi Dawn:

Thank you for answering me. I feel better already. I really do enjoy

reading all your posts. and everynow and then i go back to the files to

refresh my memory of who you each are. i love looking at the before and

afters. again, thanks!

diane R.

September 23, 2000

Hi again,

I try to post often, but after today, I'm not sure if I will for a bit.

We're reconstructing the house, and right now my fiance is on his way home

to start our challenges, but knowing me, I'll pop on while taking a butt

break!

I really don't think it's how often someone posts, but when they do, that

they fill us in just a bit to keep us from wondering so often..make sense?

Keep in touch, mark us on your calendar, just drop a quick line here and

there! I love reading stuff! (and writing)

Dawn

Re: ROLL CALL PLEASE READ

Dawn,

You're such a sweetie. You seem to find time for everyone. I really

appreciated your little note. Lyssa's idea did get some of us out of the

woodwork (I can still feel the splinters!) I just don't know how often I can

write. I only have 1 kid, but I went from 260 to 315 in a short time, and I

just don't seem to have energy to do more than I do. I hate it!!!! Being

trapped in my own body like this. gee-can anyone here relate?

Anyhow...thanks for being you,

September 23, 2000

I agree with that! It took me longer than lots to re-gain my energy, and

even after 14 mos.. out, I still get wiped at times, and take my naps!

Otherwise, I'm cranky, irritable, and get stressed too easily (more than I

usually am).

Depression signs also cause these feelings, I knew this but stayed in my

shell. I'm the type of person who can hide lot inside, but like a tea

kettle waiting to blow. Eventually, I blew, now I'm talking more about it,

and finding it helps me SO MUCH, both on an OSSG level, as well as a

professional level with my Counselor. Everyone is helping me in their own

ways, and I'm proud to be a member of this list, and have people share their

up's and down's, to feel I'm not alone in this haul of life!