Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 , I think if you read enough, you will conclude that vitamins are a waste of money. If you eat properly, you are getting all the vitamins you need, except according to those who make vitamins and then those who just think they really do them good. Of course, why would people be taking them if they didn't think they would be doing them good. About six months ago there was a lot of information out about the benefits of chromium picolinate for diabetics. Well, it couldn't hurt anything but my pocket book, so I began taking them. Now research says it may be helpful, but only to those of sub Asian descent. So, I have probably been wasting my pennies taking it. There is evidence that Vitamin D is good for people. Not conclusive, again, but for me, what the heck since some of its benefits may be in areas where I could have problems, so maybe just for a little peace of mind I am investing in them. Next week that evidence will be contradicted and it will turn out that kissing a pig will do more good. Well, I have kissed worse... My rule has become that if the articles say anything like could, indicate, might, point to, etc., I quit reading. Two things you need to look for are the kind of evidence people use and their motivation. As far as what seems to be research/scientific information, much of it is being bought and paid for by an interest in selling whatever they want to prove. As far as people selling you an opinion, they have some investment in wishing it was true. There is the BMW phenomenon where people would put up with problems with their car because they had paid so much for it and they felt like they would seem idiots if they paid all that and still had Ford problems. People with diseases and conditions will believe things that if they applied to another disease or condition they would know to be absolutely ridiculous, but we all want hope and so leave ourselves open when it applies to us. Just some rambling ideas there. But, I think if you keep these in mind as you do your own reading and listening, you will take away much more relevant and reliable information. The best! SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yes, just eat properly, whatever that is. After all the doctors always advise you to eat a well balanced meal. Never mind you are never told what constitutes a well balanced meal. It makes you wonder why even medical doctors take supplements., at least most of them do. Chromium picolanate is not a vitamin. It is a compound that supplies the pancrease with the needed chromium to produce insulin. I have a relative, who had a diabetic cat. He tried all kinds of drugs which failed to help the cat until one day he visited an old vetenarian, who prescribed chromium picolanate in a daily large dose. Guess what? The mineeral worked, whereas the drugs did not. Of course all diabetics could just follow the American Diabetes Association and the AMA American Medical Association, which in the past prescribed 150-200 grams of carbs per day. Never mind the carbohydrate digestion was the main problem of practically all diabetics and their diabetic complications. RE: vitamins , I think if you read enough, you will conclude that vitamins are a waste of money. If you eat properly, you are getting all the vitamins you need, except according to those who make vitamins and then those who just think they really do them good. Of course, why would people be taking them if they didn't think they would be doing them good. About six months ago there was a lot of information out about the benefits of chromium picolinate for diabetics. Well, it couldn't hurt anything but my pocket book, so I began taking them. Now research says it may be helpful, but only to those of sub Asian descent. So, I have probably been wasting my pennies taking it. There is evidence that Vitamin D is good for people. Not conclusive, again, but for me, what the heck since some of its benefits may be in areas where I could have problems, so maybe just for a little peace of mind I am investing in them. Next week that evidence will be contradicted and it will turn out that kissing a pig will do more good. Well, I have kissed worse... My rule has become that if the articles say anything like could, indicate, might, point to, etc., I quit reading. Two things you need to look for are the kind of evidence people use and their motivation. As far as what seems to be research/scientific information, much of it is being bought and paid for by an interest in selling whatever they want to prove. As far as people selling you an opinion, they have some investment in wishing it was true. There is the BMW phenomenon where people would put up with problems with their car because they had paid so much for it and they felt like they would seem idiots if they paid all that and still had Ford problems. People with diseases and conditions will believe things that if they applied to another disease or condition they would know to be absolutely ridiculous, but we all want hope and so leave ourselves open when it applies to us. Just some rambling ideas there. But, I think if you keep these in mind as you do your own reading and listening, you will take away much more relevant and reliable information. The best! SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Hi I have said this many times. Any article you read about vitamins or other nutritional supplements is subject to change, depending on who paid for the study and how many people were in the study. Some studies are done on under 100 people, while others are done using thousands of people. And it doesn’t matter what you read or hear, a week or a month later, you will hear the opposite. It truly is just something you have to decide on your own when it comes to trying new supplements. Becky _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of GMail Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:53 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: RE: vitamins , I think if you read enough, you will conclude that vitamins are a waste of money. If you eat properly, you are getting all the vitamins you need, except according to those who make vitamins and then those who just think they really do them good. Of course, why would people be taking them if they didn't think they would be doing them good. About six months ago there was a lot of information out about the benefits of chromium picolinate for diabetics. Well, it couldn't hurt anything but my pocket book, so I began taking them. Now research says it may be helpful, but only to those of sub Asian descent. So, I have probably been wasting my pennies taking it. There is evidence that Vitamin D is good for people. Not conclusive, again, but for me, what the heck since some of its benefits may be in areas where I could have problems, so maybe just for a little peace of mind I am investing in them. Next week that evidence will be contradicted and it will turn out that kissing a pig will do more good. Well, I have kissed worse... My rule has become that if the articles say anything like could, indicate, might, point to, etc., I quit reading. Two things you need to look for are the kind of evidence people use and their motivation. As far as what seems to be research/scientific information, much of it is being bought and paid for by an interest in selling whatever they want to prove. As far as people selling you an opinion, they have some investment in wishing it was true. There is the BMW phenomenon where people would put up with problems with their car because they had paid so much for it and they felt like they would seem idiots if they paid all that and still had Ford problems. People with diseases and conditions will believe things that if they applied to another disease or condition they would know to be absolutely ridiculous, but we all want hope and so leave ourselves open when it applies to us. Just some rambling ideas there. But, I think if you keep these in mind as you do your own reading and listening, you will take away much more relevant and reliable information. The best! SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Becky, you are exactly right. And the person spending his money on vitamins and supplements is not likely to give you a objective opinion of their worth. After all, who would take something they know doesn't work. But, as I said, we all want to believe and the worse our situation the more we want to believe and are more likely to throw more of our good sense to the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yes, and I have spent my share of money on so called “miracle cures” including things touted on infomercials. So I can’t really judge others. However, I do fine it amusing that as soon as you read something stating that a certain product is good for you or bad for you, it’s not long before articles come out stating the opposite. Becky _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of GMail Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:08 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: RE: vitamins Becky, you are exactly right. And the person spending his money on vitamins and supplements is not likely to give you a objective opinion of their worth. After all, who would take something they know doesn't work. But, as I said, we all want to believe and the worse our situation the more we want to believe and are more likely to throw more of our good sense to the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Aren't you glad that drug companies don't do this? RE: vitamins , I think if you read enough, you will conclude that vitamins are a waste of money. If you eat properly, you are getting all the vitamins you need, except according to those who make vitamins and then those who just think they really do them good. Of course, why would people be taking them if they didn't think they would be doing them good. About six months ago there was a lot of information out about the benefits of chromium picolinate for diabetics. Well, it couldn't hurt anything but my pocket book, so I began taking them. Now research says it may be helpful, but only to those of sub Asian descent. So, I have probably been wasting my pennies taking it. There is evidence that Vitamin D is good for people. Not conclusive, again, but for me, what the heck since some of its benefits may be in areas where I could have problems, so maybe just for a little peace of mind I am investing in them. Next week that evidence will be contradicted and it will turn out that kissing a pig will do more good. Well, I have kissed worse... My rule has become that if the articles say anything like could, indicate, might, point to, etc., I quit reading. Two things you need to look for are the kind of evidence people use and their motivation. As far as what seems to be research/scientific information, much of it is being bought and paid for by an interest in selling whatever they want to prove. As far as people selling you an opinion, they have some investment in wishing it was true. There is the BMW phenomenon where people would put up with problems with their car because they had paid so much for it and they felt like they would seem idiots if they paid all that and still had Ford problems. People with diseases and conditions will believe things that if they applied to another disease or condition they would know to be absolutely ridiculous, but we all want hope and so leave ourselves open when it applies to us. Just some rambling ideas there. But, I think if you keep these in mind as you do your own reading and listening, you will take away much more relevant and reliable information. The best! SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Harry, the slight difference is there is some oversight of pharmaceuticals by the FDA. We could argue whether or not the FDA really does insure efficacy, especially if you want 100% cure with zero side effects. The only thing that is regulated in vitamins and supplements is you shouldn't get rat poop in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 ccc wile we are on the subject, I spent over two thousand dollars on vitamins in one year from melalukia products and they did a show recently on a sixty minutes type show and said they were useless. I was told by the sales person I would get my sight back and they did nothing for me. they made no difference in my low blood pressure, diabetes nor the site. just took my money and ran. RE: vitamins Becky, you are exactly right. And the person spending his money on vitamins and supplements is not likely to give you a objective opinion of their worth. After all, who would take something they know doesn't work. But, as I said, we all want to believe and the worse our situation the more we want to believe and are more likely to throw more of our good sense to the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hi all, Sadly this oversight by the FDA seems to be weakening lately. There have been several articles revealing that some of the drug trials were questionable at best and a complete sham at worst. Oh well, let's all go back to the roots, herbs and other things passed out by the local Shaman or Tribal Medicine Man. Cy, the ancient Okie... _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of GMail Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:46 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: RE: vitamins Harry, the slight difference is there is some oversight of pharmaceuticals by the FDA. We could argue whether or not the FDA really does insure efficacy, especially if you want 100% cure with zero side effects. The only thing that is regulated in vitamins and supplements is you shouldn't get rat poop in them. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 oh, how unfortunate, . I just want to say that I take a reasonably good vitamin. Good for what Well I have wasted money on worse things in my life, like carbs, cigarettes, etc. I don't know if they help. But I'll take my chances, because I don't want to stop and maybe get sick. We all have to come to our own conclusions on these things. Vicki Breffe All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It straightens us out and teaches us to do what is right. It is God's way of preparing us in every way, fully equipped for every good thing God wants us to do. nlt.--2 3-16, 17. RE: vitamins Becky, you are exactly right. And the person spending his money on vitamins and supplements is not likely to give you a objective opinion of their worth. After all, who would take something they know doesn't work. But, as I said, we all want to believe and the worse our situation the more we want to believe and are more likely to throw more of our good sense to the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hi Harry, Yes Omega 3 can combat artritic inflammation. In fact, I saw a homeopathic vet for my guide dog since she is arthritic and I give her super concentrated Omega 3 capsules and Glucosomine with condroitant and MSM which can also be given to people. I buy both pills at Costco. It really helps her with her arthritis. Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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