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[Guest guest]

>> Hey, I KNOW! Let's UNDO everything we've accomplished in the last

> two years!!!!>>

Penny,

What do they want to do? And, more important...is this decision

final? I mean, they can't place her without your input, can they?

Raena

[Guest guest]

Raena -

Here's the deal. With the population explotion in this area, they needed to

build a " sister " school to the school that Jacqui now attends (public

school). This school is adjacent to her school.

To " balance the load " so to speak (regular ed, GATE, sped), they need to

move children to the new school.

We made an issue about this last year (because they did this last year too),

and wrote a very detailed letter as to WHY this change would NOT be good for

Jacqui.

I'm really BURNED by this because A) I have been ASKING about teachers for

next year, and no one would give me answers...which tells me they KNEW about

this!!! I have seen kids COME IN to the sped program at Jacqui's

school...why is Jacqui being moved????

I have my suspisions, and I am EXTREMELY upset. I have put an untold number

of hours, blood, sweat and tears into the last two years, and I DO NOT

appreciate being shuffled around. My kid is NOT like every other kid...and

I could give a shit if they have must " create an academic balance " . Here is

the quote:

" Students will be placed in classes based on the overall needs of each

classroom. We must create academic balance by doing the following: balance

the number of high, average, and below average students, balance the number

of boys and girls, separate students who do not work or play well together,

make sure each classroom has student leaders, balance the number of G.A.T.E.

and special education students, and not overload any one classroom with

behavior challenges " (ok, can you say RUN ON sentence?) This is a form

letter...Not specific to our needs.

So, you see... we all have to even out. We dont' have the skills to deal

with these children, but by God we'll be balanced.

I'm mad. I'm angry. and I will be for a while.

And to answer your question about placement? I don't know how they can

without calling an IEP meeting... This brings up an interesting point.

Jacqui has a valid IEP until the end of December...I wonder how they think

they are going to deal with THAT!

I'm so tired....

Penny

>>>>>

>> Hey, I KNOW! Let's UNDO everything we've accomplished in the last

> two years!!!!>>

Penny,

What do they want to do? And, more important...is this decision

final? I mean, they can't place her without your input, can they?

Raena

<<<<

[Guest guest]

I am sorry Penny. What was the letter for? I am sorry if I am way

behind.

Jacquie H

> FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK....

>

> Got my letter today....GUESS WHAT????

>

> Hey, I KNOW! Let's UNDO everything we've accomplished in the last

two

> years!!!!

>

> FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Penny

> " Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane "

Dogbert -

> 6/14/98

[Guest guest]

Penny,

they cant do this to you legally. I dont think so at least. If it

says that Jacqui will be attending the school she is currently in

then that is where she will stay until the IEP is changed.but have

you looked at the new school? Maybe she would be better off there

anyway. I wouldnt tell anyone that but maybe the chnge could be good.

Or do you already know different?

Jacquie H

> >> Hey, I KNOW! Let's UNDO everything we've accomplished in the last

> > two years!!!!>>

>

> Penny,

>

> What do they want to do? And, more important...is this decision

> final? I mean, they can't place her without your input, can they?

>

> Raena

> <<<<

[Guest guest]

Oh Penny, I was so hoping you wouldn't get that letter! Damn! I know how

hard you worked last year to NOT let this happen. I am so sorry.

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

" although one has a responsiblity to stick things out to the limit of one's

endurance, one also has to have the courage to retreat and lick one's

wounds, so as to return to the fray refreshed. "

~Kenzaburo Oe

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[Guest guest]

Changing her classroom, teacher or school is a change of placement.

It cannot be done with holding an IEP meeting specifically for that

purpose which must be stated in the notice of prior notification sent

to advise you of the meeting.

Such a change of placement would be in violation of IDEA and leaves

the door wide open for the state dept. of ed. to come in and do some

serious hand slapping.

Write them a letter reminding them that Jacquie's placement is set

forth in her IEP, which the team wrote and considered just a few

short months ago, was based on HER needs as outlined in the

provisions of IDEA.

(read: nothing to do with district needs)

If the school feels that there is a more optimal setting for meeting

Jacquie's educational needs where her educational experience would

be enhanced further with more support and opportunities then you

would be open to a meeting with her team members to assess the

potential benefits or impact such a change might have on Jacquie's

education.

(read: you better send me prior notice and you better not change

placement without a proper IEP meeting cause I know more than you)

Close politely and say thank you. (It may be necessary to bite your

tongue but you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar)

Good luck.

who is considering an IEE for but has not decided yet.

[Guest guest]

> > We made an issue about this last year (because they did this last

> year too), and wrote a very detailed letter as to WHY this change

> would NOT be good for Jacqui.>

I'd make copies of all of those letters and send them with a NEW

one...

> I'm really BURNED by this because A) I have been ASKING about

teachers for

> next year, and no one would give me answers...which tells me they

KNEW about

> this!!! I have seen kids COME IN to the sped program at Jacqui's

> school...why is Jacqui being moved????>>

Text for your new letter. I know that many of the moms here are a

lot more up on what goes on in the schools, so I will leave the

advice on dealing with the IDEA stuff to them...I think I saw a

wonderful reply by ...but I will say that I think this is

really unfair, and worth fighting about.

> My kid is NOT like every other kid...and

> I could give a shit if they have must " create an academic balance " .>

Numbers. Kids should never be just numbers.

> And to answer your question about placement? I don't know how they

can

> without calling an IEP meeting... This brings up an interesting

point.

> Jacqui has a valid IEP until the end of December...I wonder how

they think

> they are going to deal with THAT!>>

I bet they're thinking that because it's a new school, folks will

just bop along with them on this...maybe they'll back down if they

see you won't?

> I'm so tired....>

I'm sorry, Penny. When is the move to CA coming up? Can you use that

as another reason to keep her where she is...that it would be too

many disruptions in her schooling to move her again? Or, maybe that

would give them an incentive to put you off...I wish people could

just be straight with each other. :-( You should be able to trust

people who take responsibility for your child's life. Crud.

Raena

[Guest guest]

I'm a good month or two behind. Sorry you are dealing with this

Penny. But, is absolutely right (as usual) Good luck.

cinnamon

[Guest guest]

> We made an issue about this last year (because they did this last year

too),

> and wrote a very detailed letter as to WHY this change would NOT be good

for

> Jacqui.

Penny,

Sounds like time to re-present your letter. (although, with the crap

they've put you through this year, isn't it possible that the other school

might have teachers who are more knowledgeable?)

>

> I'm really BURNED by this because A) I have been ASKING about teachers for

> next year, and no one would give me answers...which tells me they KNEW

about

> this!!! I have seen kids COME IN to the sped program at Jacqui's

> school...why is Jacqui being moved????

This is something I would bring up!

>

> " Students will be placed in classes based on the overall needs of each

> classroom. We must create academic balance by doing the following:

balance

> the number of high, average, and below average students, balance the

number

> of boys and girls, separate students who do not work or play well

together,

> make sure each classroom has student leaders, balance the number of

G.A.T.E.

> and special education students, and not overload any one classroom with

> behavior challenges "

Now, who gives a you know what about the number of boys vs girls in a

classroom? Since when is that a criteria for placement??

I don't remember what type of program Jacqui's in. Here, it's either a

special AI classroom for the more severe kids, or they are mainstreamed, or

in the AI room and part of the day in gen ed with an aid. There is no

'balance'. They either belong in that type of classroom or they don't.

Hopefully we will be getting a classroom just for aspie and hfa's in the

future though (which will teach in a way that's more in line with how our

kids learn and understand)

> So, you see... we all have to even out. We dont' have the skills to deal

> with these children, but by God we'll be balanced.

>

That's exactly what it sounds like!

> I'm mad. I'm angry. and I will be for a while.

I don't blame you.

>

> And to answer your question about placement? I don't know how they can

> without calling an IEP meeting... This brings up an interesting point.

> Jacqui has a valid IEP until the end of December...I wonder how they think

> they are going to deal with THAT!

Probably call you in for one and say she's being moved. By the way, I think

you can fight a placement change that you don't approve of.

> I'm so tired....

I know you are. I certainly know the feeling.

Hang in there, ((((Penny))))

Sue

[Guest guest]

I cannot believe they would move Jacqui..when she's

done so well at her present school..can you call a CSE

meeting and tell them you disagree?

Mimi

--- Penny wrote:

> FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK....

>

> Got my letter today....GUESS WHAT????

>

> Hey, I KNOW! Let's UNDO everything we've

> accomplished in the last two

> years!!!!

>

> FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Penny

> " Reality is always controlled by the people who are

> most insane " Dogbert -

> 6/14/98

>

>

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