Re: PCOS ('s question about acupuncture/herbs)

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry-

Thanks so much for asking Bart my question.

I didn't get your reply on my email though and went onto the site

because I missed Penny's letter (but saw 's reply-I

thought " What is she talking about " ?). Anyways, as I was looking for

Penny's letter I saw your reply to me on the site. So, sorry I'm so

late. I wonder how many other times this has happened?

Take care,

> ,

>

> I asked Bart, and he said it shouldn't matter as the Chinese

medicine system

> doesn't really distinguish " thyroid " as such. I have found that

it's a

> totally different way of looking at the body, in terms we

Westerners don't

> even quite understand--all I can say is it works wonderfully, is

based on

> attentive examination and a way of looking at symptoms that is

different but

> not seeming odd at all, just a different slant. Really, he looks at

the

> accumulation of symptoms and manifestations, and treats. Often, a

Western

> diagnosis, although nice to have, is not necessary. I have time and

again

> seen him fix things that Western medicine can't. Too bad you are

not near

> enough to give it a try.

>

> Maybe someday there'll be a way.

>

> Best,

> Terry

[Guest guest]

,

I hadn't seen Penny's letter, just a brief two lines from Atomic women. I

know I am missing many posts again esp. from alt. group so have been once a

week going on the sites and looking.

TTYL

Jody

PS Will be sending several new reports on vaccines to you later that I just

got today.

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[Guest guest]

That's kind of strange, I never saw Penny's letter either; wonder what's

happening. Although I have to admit I occasionally accidentally delete

something I haven't read yet, I doubt we both did that!

Mostly, I just hope you find your way through the PCOS experience with

positive results one way or another. Are there any mainstream treatment

options for it now? I realize that it's been over 25 years since my

experience.

Terry

> From: jutek@...

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:02:59 -0000

> To: graves_support

> Subject: Re: PCOS ('s question about acupuncture/herbs)

>

> Hi Terry-

>

> Thanks so much for asking Bart my question.

>

> I didn't get your reply on my email though and went onto the site

> because I missed Penny's letter (but saw 's reply-I

> thought " What is she talking about " ?). Anyways, as I was looking for

> Penny's letter I saw your reply to me on the site. So, sorry I'm so

> late. I wonder how many other times this has happened?

>

> Take care,

>

>

>

>> ,

>>

>> I asked Bart, and he said it shouldn't matter as the Chinese

> medicine system

>> doesn't really distinguish " thyroid " as such. I have found that

> it's a

>> totally different way of looking at the body, in terms we

> Westerners don't

>> even quite understand--all I can say is it works wonderfully, is

> based on

>> attentive examination and a way of looking at symptoms that is

> different but

>> not seeming odd at all, just a different slant. Really, he looks at

> the

>> accumulation of symptoms and manifestations, and treats. Often, a

> Western

>> diagnosis, although nice to have, is not necessary. I have time and

> again

>> seen him fix things that Western medicine can't. Too bad you are

> not near

>> enough to give it a try.

>>

>> Maybe someday there'll be a way.

>>

>> Best,

>> Terry

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Terry-

Yes, they are just starting to use Glucophage to treat PCOS routinely now.

It improves the endocrine problems associated with PCOS. They also often

use birth control pills which seem to be beneficial too.

I think all these problems I have are tied together (induced hypothyroidism,

autoimmune disease, PCOS) but they just haven't figured out the

relationships yet. I went to many doctors when my hands and fingers

(sometimes knees and elbows too) got hot, swelled and very painful (then

they'd pop open and bleed). None of them could figure anything out and

would just through up their hands and say it must be autoimmune in nature.

But when I started T3, it virtually disappeared (except for some minor

episodes). Now we're almost certain that it was just hypothyroidism. My

husband, Tom, is a definite convert. He now thinks that hypothyroidism

isn't easy to treat at all. It's also kind of interesting because even now,

I'm all achy and sore when I wake up in the morning (T3 has a very short

half-life) but within a half an hour after I take my Armour, I perk up and

my pain goes away. Heck! The stuff's much better than aspirin.

Anyhow, thankyou very much for the advice and information. If anybody ever

comes up here that does acupuncture, I'm going to try it.

Take care,

> That's kind of strange, I never saw Penny's letter either; wonder what's

> happening. Although I have to admit I occasionally accidentally delete

> something I haven't read yet, I doubt we both did that!

>

> Mostly, I just hope you find your way through the PCOS experience with

> positive results one way or another. Are there any mainstream treatment

> options for it now? I realize that it's been over 25 years since my

> experience.

>

> Terry

[Guest guest]

Terry, sending good vibes and prayers your mother in law's way.

Doris

[Guest guest]

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:00:02 -0700

> To: <graves_support >

> Subject: Re: Re: PCOS ('s question about

> acupuncture/herbs)

>

> Yes, they are just starting to use Glucophage to treat PCOS routinely now.

> It improves the endocrine problems associated with PCOS. They also often

> use birth control pills which seem to be beneficial too.

,

I'm glad theres some treatment being offered. As for figuring out the

relationships between all this stuff, I think it's remote that " they " will;

it takes those of us with the combo of symptoms to prod the process along.

I'm sure of it, lots of TV stories about some frantic parent desperately

raising money to find a cure for a rare disease their child has (usually

genetic, I think there was one on one of the news mag shows last week but

caught only 2 minutes of the feature, 48 hours I think),-- they meet with

success, because the answers are there but nobody's had the incentive to

look before.

On another note, my mother in law is now undergoing emergency brain surgery

for a rapidly growing tumor, symptoms started with " losing " words mid week

last week, and deterioration was incredibly fast. Those of you who do the

praying could you, please? While the surgery seems not to threaten her life,

the area of the brain is the cognitive.

Terry

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry-

Have you seen 'Lorenzo's Oil'? I can barely remember it but it addresses

just the type of frantic parents searching for a cure for their boy that you

address. I do remember it was a very good movie.

I'm so sorry about your mother-in-law and will say lots of prayers for her.

Take care,

> ,

>

> I'm glad theres some treatment being offered. As for figuring out the

> relationships between all this stuff, I think it's remote that " they "

will;

> it takes those of us with the combo of symptoms to prod the process along.

> I'm sure of it, lots of TV stories about some frantic parent desperately

> raising money to find a cure for a rare disease their child has (usually

> genetic, I think there was one on one of the news mag shows last week but

> caught only 2 minutes of the feature, 48 hours I think),-- they meet with

> success, because the answers are there but nobody's had the incentive to

> look before.

>

> On another note, my mother in law is now undergoing emergency brain

surgery

> for a rapidly growing tumor, symptoms started with " losing " words mid week

> last week, and deterioration was incredibly fast. Those of you who do the

> praying could you, please? While the surgery seems not to threaten her

life,

> the area of the brain is the cognitive.

>

> Terry

[Guest guest]

Terry,

I hope your mother-in-law is doing well.