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Krista,

I never had my of my implants leak or replaced but all of the symptoms you mentioned - I had! I went from very active, youthful person to a feeling like I was 90 years old and going to die. I could barely walk the stairs to do my laundry - bed ridden and feared I would be disabled. I suspected implants as well. All of my tests came back normal - the doctors chalked it up to anxiety!! The only test that came back abnormal was an ANA - autoimmune test. My body was fighting itself! Doctors couldn't tell me why though. I knew exactly what was not natural in my body but every doctor said that the implants were safe - ya da ya da ya da!! Although - they couldn't tell me what was wrong. I went from healthy to sick within a month and my health got worse until I was explanted.

I also live in Colorado - Northern Colorado near Ft. . Dr. Huang did my explant in April. You can see my photos on Shutterfly http://.shutterfly.com/action/ - password implants. I am still not 100% but I am MUCH MUCH better than I was pre-explant. I am slowly getting my life back but it has taken detoxing my body and changing my diet.

I am happy you found this group. I do think the women here saved my life! Welcome and I am so sorry you are sick - please know you are not alone.

Hugs, Lynn

New to Forum- Would love some advice for all you experts!

Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have beenperiodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have someWONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed somelight and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so months. I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved toDenver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have anyproblems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in Marchof this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side(shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke upwith my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also startedto develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort ofbrain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. Idecided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would needto undergo surgery to

either have the implant replaced, or both takenout and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at thesame time. The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implantreplaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS tohave it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a holein the back of the implant.Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side painbecame unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended bloodtests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogramdone to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were workingcorrectly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PTand MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,this time

worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't workingproperly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired allthe time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tiredthroughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, takingwalks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole bodyjust ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes wereswollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went backto the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I wasstarting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feelgood. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I keptdismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be makingme so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I

was still havingquite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a littleresearch. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what Ifound. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similarsymptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I wasshocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completelysafe are actually encased in a silicone shell.I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across calledexplantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with her fornext week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure whatto expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problemsare definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have themremoved and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not bewithout the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of myproblems being something not caused by the

implants. But, I know it'sa risk I have to take for my health and my future.Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had asimilar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, Ijust want my life back.I would truly appreciate any advice!~Krista

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Hi Lynn- Thanks so much for your reply. Yes, it is VERY good to know I

am not alone. Although, I just have to say that finding this kind of

information on women who have had these types of problems are

extremely hard to find on the internet. I found lots and lots of

information on all the positive things about implants, but when it

comes to finding women who have gotten ill over them.....not so easy

to find!

I also find it interesting how there is a HUGE gap with medical help

for these types of issues as well. The plastic surgeons who implant us

don't follow our health after to see how we are doing (nor do they

really care,) and our regular doctors don't know enough about this to

be helpful either. My regular doctor pretty much turned me away when I

brought up the possibility of my implants causing problems. I am glad

to have found Dr.Huang and am even happier that she is right here in

Denver! Everyone on here has said such good things about her.

I looked at your pictures and you really look great

post-explant...really. Much more natural! It gives me hope that I

won't look terrible. The only photos I've been able to find of women

who had there's taken out and not replaced, did not look so good, so

it has been discouraging for me.

So, I'm glad to hear that you are feeling better. How after the

explantation before you started to feel better? How long did you have

the implants before they started causing you problems? And, what were

your biggest complaints?

I to, went from an active 28 year old, to my husband telling me I'm

acting like an 80 year old, I feel like an 80 year old! I have no

energy, I'm beyond tired all the time, I feel achy all over, my brain

is foggy all the time, I just feel like crap! My doctor has chalked

this up to anxiety, depression (thought I'm not depressed,) side

effects from high blood pressure, though none of those things make

sense to me.

Well, thanks again! If anyone has anything else to add....I would

appreciate it! Oh, and I'm curious to know what the detoxification is

that you've all been talking about. Change in diet? Vitamins? Is this

something that your doctor recommended?

Again, thanks so much for all the advice!

~Krista

>

> Krista,

>

> I never had my of my implants leak or replaced but all of the

symptoms you mentioned - I had! I went from very active, youthful

person to a feeling like I was 90 years old and going to die. I could

barely walk the stairs to do my laundry - bed ridden and feared I

would be disabled. I suspected implants as well. All of my tests

came back normal - the doctors chalked it up to anxiety!! The only

test that came back abnormal was an ANA - autoimmune test. My body

was fighting itself! Doctors couldn't tell me why though. I knew

exactly what was not natural in my body but every doctor said that the

implants were safe - ya da ya da ya da!! Although - they couldn't

tell me what was wrong. I went from healthy to sick within a month

and my health got worse until I was explanted.

>

> I also live in Colorado - Northern Colorado near Ft. . Dr.

Huang did my explant in April. You can see my photos on Shutterfly

http://.shutterfly.com/action/ - password implants. I am

still not 100% but I am MUCH MUCH better than I was pre-explant. I am

slowly getting my life back but it has taken detoxing my body and

changing my diet.

>

> I am happy you found this group. I do think the women here saved my

life! Welcome and I am so sorry you are sick - please know you are

not alone.

>

> Hugs, Lynn

>

>

> New to Forum- Would love some advice for

all you experts!

>

> Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have some

> WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

months.

> I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to

> Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have any

> problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March

> of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke up

> with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started

> to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of

> brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. I

> decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need

> to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both taken

> out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the

> same time.

> The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant

> replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS to

> have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole

> in the back of the implant.

> Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.

> However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side pain

> became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram

> done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PT

> and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)

> but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,

> this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,

> I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all

> the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went back

> to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I was

> starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feel

> good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I kept

> dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be making

> me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having

> quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what I

> found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar

> symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely

> safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with her for

> next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure what

> to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problems

> are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have them

> removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of my

> problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know it's

> a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a

> similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?

> I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, I

> just want my life back.

> I would truly appreciate any advice!

> ~Krista

>

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Hi Krista,

Wow...I wish I had some great answers for you, but sadly I don't. I'm pretty much in the same sinking boat you are right now. I had a baby last November. The fatigue and awful lower back pain started when I was six months pregnant with her, and have NOT gone away now that she's almost a year old. In fact, the fatigue has gotten worse. I tried to tell myself it was just that I'm in my 40's and so of course I'd have fatigue and back pain while pregnant, but that it would go away after she was born. Well months went by, and then I thought, "oh..it'll go away once she starts sleeping through the night". Nope. She's been sleeping through the night for 8 months now. Then I thought, "well it's just cause I'm old", but I don't think a formerly healthy, active woman that did not feel or look her age should now feel and look like she's way PAST her age. I honestly feel like I've aged 20 years in the past year and a half, and I look SO much worse, so having great boobs isn't so important now. What for? I don't feel or look good anyway, right? Big fake boobs on the body I have now, so tired and chronically in pain is kinda like wearing high heels with flannel pajama's.

I didn't mean to change this into my sob story, rather I just wanted you to know I completely identify with your story, feel great compassion and understanding for you, and wanted you to know you're not crazy. I know for a fact these symptoms are all too real.

It's so hard isn't it? To wonder, "what if I explant and (in my case) require a lift afterwards...end up with little breasts with scars all over them, and STILL feel this horrible fatigue and back pain? But at this point, even my husband, the king of all big boobie lovers, knows it's not worth keeping them if there's a chance the only thing standing between me and feeling like myself again is finding the courage to remove them.

Best of luck to you!!! Hope to one day read a message on here, after your explant, saying you feel much better!

~

>> Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been> periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have some> WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some> light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so months. > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to> Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have any> problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March> of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side> (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke up> with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started> to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of> brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. I> decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need> to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both taken> out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the> same time. > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant> replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS to> have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole> in the back of the implant.> Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.> However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side pain> became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood> tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram> done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working> correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PT> and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)> but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,> this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,> I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working> properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all> the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired> throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking> walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body> just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were> swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went back> to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I was> starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feel> good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.> Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I kept> dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be making> me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having> quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little> research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what I> found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar> symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was> shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely> safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.> I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called> explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with her for> next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure what> to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problems> are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have them> removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be> without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of my> problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know it's> a risk I have to take for my health and my future.> Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a> similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?> I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, I> just want my life back.> I would truly appreciate any advice!> ~Krista>

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Krist ~

You definately are at a great place for education,

support, and lots of kind people !

You are currently doing the right thing. Removing

the implants, and useing a doctor that is very experienced

in the proceedure, and her work is wonderful.

We have many girls that have used her and are so

happy.

Never be afraid to be you in your own skin, just like God

made you. he already made you perfect.

Implants dont define who you are. Thank heavens !

They are totally fake, and you arent fake !

The media and drug companies, doctors and FDA

have brainwashed people into believing they arent perfect

that sells their product....and they earn lots of money with the

products they brainwash everyone into just having to have !

Take your life back..........you will heal !

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Krista,

Welcome to this wonderful support group....

I had the same thoughts as you when I was sick and stumbled across a

few sites with information that said implants can make us sick. I

wanted to get proof that it was my implants making me ill before I

would have them out.

You will not find many doctors that will tell you your implants are

making you sick. My rhumatologist told me " there is no medical

evidence that absolutely supports this idea "

I knew in my soul though that they were what was making me ill.

I had Dr Huang do my explant surgery Sept 11, 2007. (she is wonderful

by the way). Will she confirm that your implants are making you ill?

I don't think she will. Will she maybe agree that they can make women

ill... yes. When my husband and I met with her before surgery and

both said... " my implants are making me very sick " , she didn't say

" yes, they are " but instead told me a story about a woman who's blood

protein levels went crazy because of the antibodies ....etc.

In essence a way of saying she knows they can make some women sick but

not saying she agrees.... It is difficult to explain.

I'll never forget the first time someone on one of these sites sent me

the message.... " You need to have them out " . I am grateful now for

that message.

Dr. Huang is a great doctor. Talk to her.

I'm not a doctor but my advice would be to have them removed.

Keep asking questions.

>

> Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have some

> WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

months.

> I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to

> Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have any

> problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March

> of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke up

> with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started

> to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of

> brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. I

> decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need

> to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both taken

> out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the

> same time.

> The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant

> replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS to

> have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole

> in the back of the implant.

> Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.

> However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side pain

> became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram

> done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PT

> and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)

> but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,

> this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,

> I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all

> the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went back

> to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I was

> starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feel

> good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I kept

> dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be making

> me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having

> quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what I

> found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar

> symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely

> safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with her for

> next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure what

> to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problems

> are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have them

> removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of my

> problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know it's

> a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a

> similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?

> I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, I

> just want my life back.

> I would truly appreciate any advice!

> ~Krista

>

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and -

Thank you sooooooo much for your wonderful responses and your support,

it really means a lot to me. Thank you, for the sort of " tough

love " in telling me I need to get them removed. That is honestly the

first time someone has said that to me, and it is actually nice to

hear (makes me feel like this isn't all in my head.) Thank you,

for the analogy, that having breast implants that are making

sick is like wearing high heels with flannel pajamas. I love it and it

really made me smile (okay it made me want to cry too, but in a good

way!) I can definitely feel for you. My health has plummeted in only 8

months time and I feel like an 80 year old! Please keep me updated. Do

you have a date yet of when you are getting explanted?

I do think that I am finally coming to terms with the fact that I will

need to have these removed out and go back to " teeny weeny boobie girl

again. " I also think that my hubby has comes to terms with it as well

(or at least he is getting there.) Luckily, he's not a big " boob guy, "

he's mainly frustrated because I can't do the things I used to do and

I'm just not myself. Not to mention, he's frustrated at how much it is

going to cost to have them removed. Luckily, we both make a good

living, but this is sure not what we expected to have to spend our

extra money on!!! What an expensive life lesson this has been!

I think the most difficult thing for me will be the fact that EVERYONE

I know has implants…..my mom, my sister, all my close girlfriends.

And, I am going to go back to being the " small-chested friend. "

Sometimes I think how unfair it is that out of all these girls, I'm

the one who got sick from these stupid things and I am having to get

them removed! But, then I think to myself " these things are obviously

dangerous and maybe it's a blessing in disguise that I am getting my

removed fairly early on. " Looking at the positive side is really all I

can do.

- I'm curious to know (since you had the same doc as me remove

yours,) what was your healing time? My hubby thinks it's going to be a

" have them removed on Friday, be back at work on Monday " type of

thing, I guess he has high hopes that I'll be all back to normal

quick. How long were you " down " for? Also, are you feeling better

since you had them removed? Were your symptoms similar to mine?

Sorry for the zillion questions. I'm just trying to get a feel for

what I can expect.

I'm so glad that I found this group and I hope one day when I am all

back to normal, that I can help girls who are going through what I am

going through now.

~Krista

> >

> > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have some

> > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

> months.

> > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to

> > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have any

> > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March

> > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke up

> > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started

> > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of

> > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. I

> > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need

> > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both taken

> > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the

> > same time.

> > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant

> > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS to

> > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole

> > in the back of the implant.

> > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.

> > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side pain

> > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram

> > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PT

> > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)

> > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,

> > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,

> > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all

> > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went back

> > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I was

> > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feel

> > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I kept

> > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be making

> > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having

> > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what I

> > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar

> > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely

> > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with her for

> > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure what

> > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problems

> > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have them

> > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of my

> > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know it's

> > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a

> > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?

> > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, I

> > just want my life back.

> > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > ~Krista

> >

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Hi Krista,

I think you will be much better off with them out. I know that some

women don't get sick from them (or so I've been told)... however, I

think it is kind of like playing Russian roulette with you health...

maybe you'll be lucky...maybe you won't over time.

My health didn't take a huge dive until I had had the implants for

about 18 years... I certainly had health problems (probably caused by

them) for many years before that but about 18 months ago my health

took a terrible dive.

If you are at all interested and/or would spend the extra money... you

might ask Dr Huang about fat transfers to the breast. Both Lynn & I

had that done. Doesn't make you have huge implant breasts, but it

adds fat and gives it a little extra after explant. She is very good

at this procedure and has studied with the guru of Colman fat

transfers in NYC.

My photos are in the shutterfly link from this page also. I didn't

have a lift. She didn't think I needed one. I'm a little saggy but

haven't been able to work on those muscles yet... and I'm mid 50's so

I figured I didn't need the perky breasts of a young woman...

My symptoms.... First I began have chemical sensitivities (allergic

reactions to some things that I had been fine with). I began having

more sinus problems which lead to more chest problems. I had lots of

joint pain so I went to water aerobics classes 5 days a week. I had

to stop those... I still tried to walk but soon I couldn't walk 1 mile

without being in so much pain. I became more tired. Lost interest in

some of the things I loved to do. I found it difficult to

concentrate to read (something I have always loved to do)... the list

goes on.

In Dec 2006. I had blood tests done. They said I had a positive ANA

and a double strand DNA... said I probably had an autoimmune disease..

probably lupus. I then developed more sensitivities, more pain,

terrible rash on my arms that lasted for months...I was diagnosed with

Lupus in August. My doctor says " You still don't have some of the

classic symptoms of Lupus, but I think that is what you have "

I feel better every day since explant. But it has only been 1 month.

I had developed some uterine growths and abnormal lining prior to

explant (possibly due to implants) and I'm supposed to have biopsy's

this sat on those.

I arrived in Denver on Sunday... had pre-op on Monday, Surgery on

Tues. We left for home (Nevada) on Sat. Depending on what job you

have and how you " bounce back " , I don't think you would be ready to go

back to work for at least a week.

I did have some lung problems after the surgery which can be common in

chest surgeries that last a long time. (mine lasted about 5 hours).

It is not uncommon but the doctors say it takes time to resolve itself.

Pathology of my implants showed that I had many foamy microflanges and

a fluid around the scar tissue. I believe my body had just been

fighting these so long and hard that it finally gave up.

I do feel better every day. I'm careful about what I eat. I'm taking

lots of supplements to try to help detox my body. Others on this

board can help you much more with detox than I can. I'm just new and

I'm still learning. I do have ionic foot baths and reflexology,

which really help me detox. (I thought this sounded crazy at first

but once I tried it.... I was sold)

Keep asking questions. I did when I was new and swore that I would

try to stay with this group after explant so that I could try to help

others as so many helped me. This group has been a miracle for me.

> > >

> > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have

some

> > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

> > months.

> > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to

> > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

have any

> > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March

> > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

woke up

> > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

started

> > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of

> > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

right. I

> > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need

> > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both

taken

> > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the

> > > same time.

> > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant

> > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original

PS to

> > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole

> > > in the back of the implant.

> > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

surgery.

> > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

side pain

> > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram

> > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did

do PT

> > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

okay,)

> > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,

> > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

so bad,

> > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all

> > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

went back

> > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.

I was

> > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

didn't feel

> > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I

kept

> > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be

making

> > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having

> > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

what I

> > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar

> > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely

> > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with

her for

> > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure

what

> > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

problems

> > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have

them

> > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all

of my

> > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know

it's

> > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a

> > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

for me?

> > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

crap, I

> > > just want my life back.

> > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > ~Krista

> > >

> >

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Thanks everyone for all of your kind words and support. I already feel

better (and I've only been posting for less than 24 hours!) It's just

nice to know that others are going through or have been through what I

am going through and I'm not alone. It's nice to have all of you on my

side.

Dede- You are absolutely right! My husband reminds me constantly that

big perfect boobs are not what makes a woman beautiful. He tells me

that I can have tiny boobs, but just as long as I am confident then I

am beautiful. He is absolutely right. I am really seeing the big

picture now. Confidence in yourself is what is beautiful. If I'm

comfortable in my own skin and know I'm beautiful, then others will too.

I just find it interesting how I thought " pre-boob job, " basically

that if you did not have big perfect boobs then you are not beautiful.

Now, since I have the implants I see women with big and small boobs

and I think they are equally as beautiful, as long as they are

confident in themselves. Why didn't I feel this way before I got the

implants? I guess we've all been brain-washed into thinking we have to

get implants to be a beautiful whole woman. Not true at all!

I can't wait to get my life back!

~Krista

>

> Krist ~

> You definately are at a great place for education,

> support, and lots of kind people !

> You are currently doing the right thing. Removing

> the implants, and useing a doctor that is very experienced

> in the proceedure, and her work is wonderful.

> We have many girls that have used her and are so

> happy.

> Never be afraid to be you in your own skin, just like God

> made you. he already made you perfect.

> Implants dont define who you are. Thank heavens !

> They are totally fake, and you arent fake !

> The media and drug companies, doctors and FDA

> have brainwashed people into believing they arent perfect

> that sells their product....and they earn lots of money with the

> products they brainwash everyone into just having to have !

> Take your life back..........you will heal !

> Hugs Dede

>

>

>

>

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p.s I forgot to say....these things have never felt like real boobs

anyway. That is something that plastic surgeons never mention. These

aren't real boobs, they never will be and that, I believe is something

that we should get out to all women who are considering getting

implants. The risks aren't worth it and in the long run you will be

happier if you can find some way to be comfortable in your own skin

and not get implants.

>

> Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have some

> WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

months.

> I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to

> Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have any

> problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March

> of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke up

> with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started

> to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of

> brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. I

> decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need

> to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both taken

> out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the

> same time.

> The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant

> replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS to

> have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole

> in the back of the implant.

> Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.

> However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side pain

> became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram

> done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PT

> and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)

> but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,

> this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,

> I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all

> the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went back

> to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I was

> starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feel

> good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I kept

> dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be making

> me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having

> quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what I

> found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar

> symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely

> safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with her for

> next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure what

> to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problems

> are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have them

> removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of my

> problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know it's

> a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a

> similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?

> I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, I

> just want my life back.

> I would truly appreciate any advice!

> ~Krista

>

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Krista,

PS... about the expense of having them out...

A couple, who are good friends of ours, asked us recently if we would

go on a cruise with them next year. My husband pointed to my breasts

(this was after explant surgery), and said " there is our cruise next

year " .

He also says constantly that explant surgery probably saved my life.

So... we will wait awhile for the next cruise.... I don't mind at all.

> > >

> > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have

some

> > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

> > months.

> > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to

> > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

have any

> > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March

> > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

woke up

> > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

started

> > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of

> > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

right. I

> > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need

> > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both

taken

> > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the

> > > same time.

> > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant

> > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original

PS to

> > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole

> > > in the back of the implant.

> > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

surgery.

> > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

side pain

> > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram

> > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did

do PT

> > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

okay,)

> > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,

> > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

so bad,

> > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all

> > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

went back

> > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.

I was

> > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

didn't feel

> > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I

kept

> > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be

making

> > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having

> > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

what I

> > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar

> > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely

> > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with

her for

> > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure

what

> > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

problems

> > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have

them

> > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all

of my

> > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know

it's

> > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a

> > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

for me?

> > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

crap, I

> > > just want my life back.

> > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > ~Krista

> > >

> >

>

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Oh , I definitely feel for you. As soon as my husband came to

terms with the fact that these things were coming out, his first

question was " how much is this going to cost us? " I understand his

concern but at the same time it's like....come on!!! Do you think I am

enjoying this! Do you think it is my life goal to throw our money

away....sheesh! I've had to come to terms with the fact that this is

going to cost us so much money that the only thing I will able to buy

for myself in the next year is a new set up itsy bitsy bras and a new

itsy bitsy padded swim suit! My husband even said to me....why didn't

you keep the bras you used to wear!? Are you kidding me!? First of

all, why would I be wearing the same bras from 4 years ago even if my

boobs were still the same size? And, second....did I EVER think in my

wildest dreams going into this that I'd EVER need to wear those little

bras again!? Never!

Hope that made you smile! Husbands...what to do with them?

~Krista

> > > >

> > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have

> some

> > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed

some

> > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

> > > months.

> > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I

moved to

> > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

> have any

> > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in

March

> > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

> woke up

> > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

> started

> > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a

sort of

> > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

> right. I

> > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I

would need

> > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both

> taken

> > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems

at the

> > > > same time.

> > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the

implant

> > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original

> PS to

> > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found

a hole

> > > > in the back of the implant.

> > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

> surgery.

> > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

> side pain

> > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an

electromyogram

> > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did

> do PT

> > > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

> okay,)

> > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms

back,

> > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

> so bad,

> > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so

tired all

> > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

> went back

> > > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.

> I was

> > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

> didn't feel

> > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me

anymore.

> > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I

> kept

> > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be

> making

> > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still

having

> > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

> what I

> > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with

similar

> > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were

completely

> > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > > explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with

> her for

> > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure

> what

> > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

> problems

> > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have

> them

> > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all

> of my

> > > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know

> it's

> > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has

had a

> > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

> for me?

> > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

> crap, I

> > > > just want my life back.

> > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > > ~Krista

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Krista,

You did make me smile... Thanks!

I decided when my new size if finally stabilized.... I'm going to have

a little bra burning ceremony for all those implant bras...

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have

been

> > > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have

> > some

> > > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed

> some

> > > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8

or so

> > > > months.

> > > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I

> moved to

> > > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

> > have any

> > > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in

> March

> > > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

> > woke up

> > > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

> > started

> > > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a

> sort of

> > > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

> > right. I

> > > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I

> would need

> > > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both

> > taken

> > > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems

> at the

> > > > > same time.

> > > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the

> implant

> > > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original

> > PS to

> > > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found

> a hole

> > > > > in the back of the implant.

> > > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

> > surgery.

> > > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

> > side pain

> > > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended

blood

> > > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an

> electromyogram

> > > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did

> > do PT

> > > > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

> > okay,)

> > > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms

> back,

> > > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

> > so bad,

> > > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so

> tired all

> > > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house,

taking

> > > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My

whole body

> > > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes

were

> > > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

> > went back

> > > > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.

> > I was

> > > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

> > didn't feel

> > > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me

> anymore.

> > > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I

> > kept

> > > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be

> > making

> > > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still

> having

> > > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

> > what I

> > > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with

> similar

> > > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly.

I was

> > > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were

> completely

> > > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > > > explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with

> > her for

> > > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure

> > what

> > > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

> > problems

> > > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have

> > them

> > > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all

> > of my

> > > > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know

> > it's

> > > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has

> had a

> > > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

> > for me?

> > > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

> > crap, I

> > > > > just want my life back.

> > > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > > > ~Krista

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Krista,

Oh, I know what you are going through. I tell my husband sorry all the time. He did not deserve this, I had implants long before we were married! This makes me sad. He is wonderful though and just wants me healthy.

Then I come here and the board is my therapy!! I couldn't have made it without these women. As they have reminded me so many times when I get depressed about what I have done to myself, my life, my husband - IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT!! We were lied to!! We were told they were safe. If you had known what you know now - I am pretty certain you would have thought twice about getting implants. I know that after reading the stories on this board and other boards of women who have actually DIED because of the implant illness, there would have been no way I would have got implants. But no, I was told implants are perfectly safe. The biggest concern was that they could deflate but they saline would just be absorbed by my body - which was perferctly safe.

I am sorry about your mom. What a jerk. What will he do if she is disabled and bedridden? Maybe she'll come around.

Hugs, Lynn

Re: New to Forum- Would love some advice for all you experts!

Lynn- Yes, I do hope in the future to be able to help other women outthere who have to go through this.I plan to let all of my implant family and friends know of mystruggles with mine, what to look for, and then be there for them ifthey have to go through this. My mom seems to already have starteddeveloping problems too. I told her the other day that she needed tohave her implants removed and she said her husband would never lether. Isn't that awful? I could never be married to a jerk like that!But, I still plan to keep talking to her about it. I will definitelysend them to this forum too. It has been such a support for me.I went out to dinner with one of my closest girlfriends for dinnertonight, and I really haven't talked about this with anyone, otherthen briefly with my husband and Mom. But, tonight I decided to tellher what's been going on. It was the first time I'd been emotionalabout it.

Before then, I wouldn't let myself get emotional because Ikept telling myself it was my own fault. But, when I said to her "Ijust don't want my husband to have to go through this" and I juststarted crying. I can't believe that not only have I put myselfthrough this hell, but I've put my husband through it, and it's notover yet. That, right now is the hardest thing for me. I just pray that once I have these removed that I will start to feelbetter soon after so that I can be his wife again. Thanks again to everyone who has been writing to me. It has helpedtremendously. My day cannot come soon enough. ~Krista> > >> > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been> > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all havesome> > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some> > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so> > months. > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to> > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did nothave any> > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in

March> > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side> > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, Iwoke up> > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started> > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of> > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feelright. I> > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need> > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or bothtaken> > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the> > > same time. > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant> > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my originalPS to> > > have it replaced. The only thing

he told me was that he found a hole> > > in the back of the implant.> > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after thesurgery.> > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The leftside pain> > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood> > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram> > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working> > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I diddo PT> > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, butokay,)> > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,> > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurtso bad,> > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working>

> > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all> > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired> > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking> > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body> > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were> > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. Iwent back> > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.I was> > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why Ididn't feel> > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.> > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, Ikept> > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not bemaking>

> > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having> > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little> > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed atwhat I> > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar> > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was> > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely> > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.> > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called> > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment withher for> > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not surewhat> > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of myproblems> > > are definitely

being caused by my implants, and then I will havethem> > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be> > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and allof my> > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I knowit's> > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.> > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a> > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advicefor me?> > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling likecrap, I> > > just want my life back.> > > I would truly appreciate any advice!> > > ~Krista> > >> >>

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Hi Krista,

Welcome to Saline Support. I had implants for only a week or two

when I started getting sick. Every week there was a strange new set

of symptoms that I never had before - joint swelling, swollen lymph

nodes, numb fingers and toes, brain fog, sudden high blood

pressure. It was quite a nightmare and I had the same type of

thoughts that you're having now - " what if it's not the implants and

I have them removed " . Logic told me it must be the implants,

though, since I went from perfectly healthy one day to very sick

right after surgery. I had my implants removed after six months,

because I knew my sanity depended on having them removed - for me it

came down to suicide or surgery. I have never once regretted having

the implants removed - my only regret is having them put in. The

explant surgery was much less painful than having the implants put

in, and for me I was out of commission for about a week. Two weeks

after explant I hosted Thanksgiving dinner for 14 people, which was

probably pushing it quite a bit, but I wanted life to be normal.

Within a month of having my implants removed, my blood pressure

returned to normal. The other symptoms took various times to go

away - it took about six months for the numb fingers and toes to

completely go away. I still struggle with occasional brain fog -

that seems to be the most stubborn of all the problems. My joint

swelling is much better than it was - now it's pretty much isolated

to my thumbs, but two years ago my knees, ankles, elbows, all my

fingers - were swollen, and my bones hurt. I don't have bone pain

anymore, either. I have seen many women get sick when their

implants deflated. Mine didn't deflate, but just having them in my

body was more than my immune system could handle.

Sis

> > >

> > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have

been

> > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all

have some

> > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed

some

> > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or

so

> > months.

> > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I

moved to

> > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

have any

> > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in

March

> > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left

side

> > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

woke up

> > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

started

> > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a

sort of

> > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

right. I

> > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I

would need

> > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or

both taken

> > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems

at the

> > > same time.

> > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the

implant

> > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my

original PS to

> > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found

a hole

> > > in the back of the implant.

> > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

surgery.

> > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

side pain

> > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended

blood

> > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an

electromyogram

> > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I

did do PT

> > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

okay,)

> > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms

back,

> > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

so bad,

> > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so

tired all

> > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house,

taking

> > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole

body

> > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes

were

> > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

went back

> > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal

AGAIN. I was

> > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

didn't feel

> > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me

anymore.

> > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But,

I kept

> > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not

be making

> > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still

having

> > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

what I

> > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with

similar

> > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I

was

> > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were

completely

> > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with

her for

> > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not

sure what

> > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

problems

> > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will

have them

> > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not

be

> > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and

all of my

> > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I

know it's

> > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has

had a

> > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

for me?

> > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

crap, I

> > > just want my life back.

> > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > ~Krista

> > >

> >

>

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Krista, What kind of problems is your mother having? It's amazing how much denial there is out there amongst implanted women about any correlation between their implants and their "minor" health issues. I've lost count of the number of women who say they are not having any trouble with their implants, but then go on to admit that they have some health issues--blaming it on aging or whatever. It all sounds familiar to me, yet it's so hard for them to see the connection when they don't want to. I felt the same way as you regarding my poor husband--and my kids! I was devastated that a decision I had made caused them to suffer too. I didn't think in my wildest dreams that I would ever be getting sick or be taking the implants out. I thought they were there for life. (I was told they would go with me to my grave. That was in May 1997. Imagine my shock and distress when I

was told by my PS only 2 months later --in July 2007-- that oops! saline implants will probably have to be replaced every 7 years, sorry about that. Talk about a bait and switch sales pitch!) I know it's hard to forgive yourself, but you must. It's not your fault. You and your husband will survive this. We all do. I am proud of you for telling your friend and your family what you are going through. Just take things one day at a time, and try to avoid being stressed out. Stress is a killer for us. You have lots of support here to help you deal with all of the emotions and the questions of what's up ahead on your road to health. There are so many of us that have not only survived this horrendous experience, but used it to strengthen our character and find a new purpose in life. There is always a way to find the silver lining

in every cloud. Patty <schellkrista@...> wrote: Lynn- Yes, I do hope in the future to be able to help other women outthere who have to go through this.I plan to let all of my implant family and friends know of mystruggles with mine, what to look for, and then be there for them ifthey have to go through this. My mom seems to already have starteddeveloping problems too. I told her the other day that she needed tohave her implants removed and she said her husband would never lether. Isn't that

awful? I could never be married to a jerk like that!But, I still plan to keep talking to her about it. I will definitelysend them to this forum too. It has been such a support for me.I went out to dinner with one of my closest girlfriends for dinnertonight, and I really haven't talked about this with anyone, otherthen briefly with my husband and Mom. But, tonight I decided to tellher what's been going on. It was the first time I'd been emotionalabout it. Before then, I wouldn't let myself get emotional because Ikept telling myself it was my own fault. But, when I said to her "Ijust don't want my husband to have to go through this" and I juststarted crying. I can't believe that not only have I put myselfthrough this hell, but I've put my husband through it, and it's notover yet. That, right now is the hardest thing for me. I just pray that once I have these removed that I will start to feelbetter soon after so that I

can be his wife again. Thanks again to everyone who has been writing to me. It has helpedtremendously. My day cannot come soon enough. ~Krista> > >> > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been> > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all havesome> > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some> > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so> >

months. > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to> > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did nothave any> > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March> > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side> > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, Iwoke up> > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started> > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of> > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feelright. I> > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need> > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or bothtaken> > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the>

> > same time. > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant> > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my originalPS to> > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole> > > in the back of the implant.> > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after thesurgery.> > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The leftside pain> > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood> > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram> > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working> > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I diddo PT> > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, butokay,)> > > but in about

mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,> > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurtso bad,> > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working> > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all> > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired> > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking> > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body> > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were> > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. Iwent back> > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.I was> > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why Ididn't feel> > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no

answers for me anymore.> > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, Ikept> > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not bemaking> > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having> > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little> > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed atwhat I> > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar> > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was> > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely> > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.> > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called> > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment withher for> > > next

week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not surewhat> > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of myproblems> > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will havethem> > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be> > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and allof my> > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I knowit's> > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.> > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a> > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advicefor me?> > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling likecrap, I> > > just want my life back.> > > I would truly appreciate any advice!> > > ~Krista>

> >> >>

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Krista, Detoxification is something that has worked for many women who have been sick from implants. When I first got sick in 1998, I was on Ilena's list. There were thousands of women on that list (it was not public...it was a private list.) We were able to write directly to each other, and so when I found women on the list that were getting better, I wrote to them and asked them what they were doing. I found that almost every single one of them were following the natural medicine route, rather than the allopathic medicine route. The women who were taking drugs like prednisone and plaquenil and all of the other crap out there that doctors pass out like candy didn't seem to be getting better. So, after my rheumatologist basically dismissed me, I gave up on MD's forever and chose to go to ND's instead. Best thing I ever did! Then I started reading all about healing therapies using detox methods. I

tried as many different things I could find to help my body purge itself as I could--things I could do at home and do cheaply and safely. That's why I decided to focus on natural methods of healing when I started this group, because it seemed that this was the direction that worked for many women. Detoxing is a general term and there are lots of different avenues for detoxing. There are dozens of therapies you can do and so you can pretty much design your own program and do what you are comfortable with. That's what's so wonderful about it! But I know it can be confusing too. Basically in a nutshell the idea is twofold: 1) to stop putting toxins in your body (by being careful about what you choose to eat and put on your skin) and 2) to help your body force to give up the toxins that are already there. It will be a lifelong commitment. You

will have to do some research into the various methods of detoxification. There are scads of books out there on it. We have files in our files section on it. I wrote up a list in our FAQ's file, so you may want to check that out. You may even want to print it out, and then look into each item as you have time, and are motivated to implement new therapies. Here is the link to our FAQ's file. There's one called "How do I detox?": /files/FREQUENTLY%20ASKED%20QUESTIONS/ Patty schellkrista <schellkrista@...> wrote: Hi Lynn- Thanks so much for your reply. Yes, it is VERY good to know Iam not alone. Although, I just have to say that finding this kind ofinformation on women who have had these types of problems areextremely hard to find on the internet. I found lots and lots ofinformation on all the positive things about implants, but when itcomes to finding women who have gotten ill over them.....not so easyto find!I also find it interesting how there is a HUGE gap with medical helpfor these types of issues as well. The plastic surgeons who implant usdon't follow our health after to see how we are doing (nor do theyreally care,) and our regular doctors don't know enough about this tobe helpful either. My regular

doctor pretty much turned me away when Ibrought up the possibility of my implants causing problems. I am gladto have found Dr.Huang and am even happier that she is right here inDenver! Everyone on here has said such good things about her.I looked at your pictures and you really look greatpost-explant...really. Much more natural! It gives me hope that Iwon't look terrible. The only photos I've been able to find of womenwho had there's taken out and not replaced, did not look so good, soit has been discouraging for me.So, I'm glad to hear that you are feeling better. How after theexplantation before you started to feel better? How long did you havethe implants before they started causing you problems? And, what wereyour biggest complaints?I to, went from an active 28 year old, to my husband telling me I'macting like an 80 year old, I feel like an 80 year old! I have noenergy, I'm beyond tired all the time, I

feel achy all over, my brainis foggy all the time, I just feel like crap! My doctor has chalkedthis up to anxiety, depression (thought I'm not depressed,) sideeffects from high blood pressure, though none of those things makesense to me. Well, thanks again! If anyone has anything else to add....I wouldappreciate it! Oh, and I'm curious to know what the detoxification isthat you've all been talking about. Change in diet? Vitamins? Is thissomething that your doctor recommended?Again, thanks so much for all the advice!~Krista>> Krista,> > I never had my of my implants leak or replaced but all of thesymptoms you mentioned - I had! I went from very active, youthfulperson to a feeling like I was 90 years old and going to die. I couldbarely walk the stairs to do

my laundry - bed ridden and feared Iwould be disabled. I suspected implants as well. All of my testscame back normal - the doctors chalked it up to anxiety!! The onlytest that came back abnormal was an ANA - autoimmune test. My bodywas fighting itself! Doctors couldn't tell me why though. I knewexactly what was not natural in my body but every doctor said that theimplants were safe - ya da ya da ya da!! Although - they couldn'ttell me what was wrong. I went from healthy to sick within a monthand my health got worse until I was explanted. > > I also live in Colorado - Northern Colorado near Ft. . Dr.Huang did my explant in April. You can see my photos on Shutterflyhttp://.shutterfly.com/action/ - password implants. I amstill not 100% but I am MUCH MUCH better than I was pre-explant. I amslowly getting my life back but it has

taken detoxing my body andchanging my diet. > > I am happy you found this group. I do think the women here saved mylife! Welcome and I am so sorry you are sick - please know you arenot alone.> > Hugs, Lynn> > > New to Forum- Would love some advice forall you experts!> > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been> periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have some> WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some> light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or somonths. > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in

California. I moved to> Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have any> problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March> of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side> (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke up> with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started> to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of> brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. I> decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need> to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both taken> out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the> same time. > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant> replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS to> have it

replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole> in the back of the implant.> Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.> However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side pain> became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood> tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram> done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working> correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PT> and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)> but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,> this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,> I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working> properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all> the time and no matter how much sleep I

got, I was still tired> throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking> walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body> just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were> swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went back> to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I was> starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feel> good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.> Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I kept> dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be making> me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having> quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little> research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what I> found. So many stories out there of

girls who came down with similar> symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was> shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely> safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.> I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called> explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with her for> next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure what> to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problems> are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have them> removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be> without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of my> problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know it's> a risk I have to take for my health and my future.> Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had

a> similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?> I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, I> just want my life back.> I would truly appreciate any advice!> ~Krista>

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You guys are all so wonderful and sweet. I just can't thank you all

enough for the support and kinds words. I'm just sitting here crying,

I guess it was just a matter of time before I'd have a good cry over

all this. Good thing hubby is working out of town tonight or he might

think I was a little nutty sitting here crying. I just got off the

phone with him and I assured him that all of this would be over soon

and his response was " good, I just want my baby back. " ugh!

Anyway, my mom has been complaining a lot about random aches and

pains. She told me that her doctors are telling her she probably has

arthritis, but the thing is is that we don't have arthritis in our

family and my mom seems to be a little young for that (she's 50.) And

now she's saying that the bottoms of her feet have been killing her

and she can barely walk. I know there are other things too that I'm

not recalling. I will ask her when I talk to her. I definitely think

she is denial that any of her problems are being caused by her

implants, she seems to be chalking it up to getting older, but I just

don't know.

I was told the SAME thing about my implants. That they would last me

forever and if I ever had a deflation (which I did) that it will just

get absorbed into my body. I cannot believe the stuff that they fail

to tell you. There is NO WAY that I would have risked my health to get

these things had I known of all these complications. I was desperate,

but not that desperate!

Thanks for your kind words in telling me this isn't my fault. I do

feel like I was lied to in so many ways. I know that my husband and I

will get through this, it just really puts a damper on our lives and

our plans. We thought we'd have kids by now, but we've had to put

everything on hold. His dream (he told me tonight) is to take me, our

children (which we don't have yet) and our dog (which we don't have

yet) on hikes up to the Rocky Mountains. I just kept promising him

that we'd be able to do this soon. Sigh....

You guys are wonderful, thank you,

Krista

> > > >

> > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have

> some

> > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

> > > months.

> > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I

moved to

> > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

> have any

> > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in

March

> > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

> woke up

> > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

started

> > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a

sort of

> > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

> right. I

> > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I

would need

> > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both

> taken

> > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems

at the

> > > > same time.

> > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the

implant

> > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original

> PS to

> > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found

a hole

> > > > in the back of the implant.

> > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

> surgery.

> > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

> side pain

> > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an

electromyogram

> > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did

> do PT

> > > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

> okay,)

> > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms

back,

> > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

> so bad,

> > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so

tired all

> > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

> went back

> > > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.

> I was

> > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

> didn't feel

> > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I

> kept

> > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be

> making

> > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still

having

> > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

> what I

> > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with

similar

> > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were

completely

> > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with

> her for

> > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure

> what

> > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

> problems

> > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have

> them

> > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all

> of my

> > > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know

> it's

> > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has

had a

> > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

> for me?

> > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

> crap, I

> > > > just want my life back.

> > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > > ~Krista

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Krista and Patty,

Dr. Huang has no bones about some women becoming very ill from

implants. I don't believe that she thinks all women will become ill

from implants. She particularly does not like silicone implants, but

she knows for sure that some women do not tolerate implants at

all. She has told me this, at any rate.

Lynda

At 07:54 PM 10/8/2007, you wrote:

>Hey Krista,

>Your story brings back memories for me--I went through all of the

>same feelings you are regarding the illness and the

>implants. Making the decision to remove the implants when there are

>no guarantees you will get better is a very hard one! I cried for

>days about it when I was going through that period. But I had to

>buck up and just do what I had to do. I knew that if I wanted ANY

>chance at getting my life back, I had to get rid of the implants and

>not look back. I wanted my life back DESPERATELY! The brain fog,

>the fatigue, it was all too much to take. I couldn't live like that anymore.

>

>So, as hard as it was (I'd only had my implants for 9 months, and

>I'd worked so hard and saved every dime I could for those

>implants!), I made the appointment with a recommended surgeon. I

>can say that I am SO GLAD those implants are gone. I didn't have

>any proof then that the implants were making me sick, but I think I

>do now, as I got my life and my health back.

>

>It is rare that you will hear a doctor admit that implants are

>making you sick. Very rare indeed. Don't expect Dr. Huang to tell

>you that for sure. Most plastic surgeons have to play along

>politically correct lines in order to fit in with their peers, and

>that peer pressure is HUGE. It affects what they allow themselves

>to say publicly. Let's face it; they have alot of money invested in

>their careers, and they aren't about to risk it all because some

>women get sick from implants while most women do not. I know it's

>not fair and it's not right, but it's reality.

>

>That's why this group is so instrumental. We have no vested

>financial interests in the implant industry. We do what we do

>because we know women are getting sick from implants and we know

>help is desperately needed. Too many women are cropping up with the

>same symptoms after implantation for there not to be a

>connection. And then when women get better after explant, it's too

>hard to deny the connection between implants and illness.

>

>Getting better will take time, effort, and patience. It's not an

>easy journey. You have to be prepared to be in it for the long

>haul. It took me over 4 years to get my life back to normal after

>being implanted for only 9 months! But slowly I did get better. And

>I was so sick I wanted to die.

>

>Everything you've written regarding your symptoms I went

>through. Additionally, I had some abnormal blood work, but there

>are many women that have totally normal blood work and feel as sick

>as I did. That makes me think that hormones and fungal or mycoplasma

>infections are very much involved in our illness, as the endocrine

>system is rarely tested or the tests are misinterpreted, and many

>fungal and mycoplasma infections escape detection.

>

>Getting explanted correctly is vital. Dr.Huang will do a good

>job. As for being resolved about the explant, think about this: At

>some point in time you are going to have to deal with the implants

>anyway. They do not last forever. You will either have a rupture,

>leak or have to exchange them again. It's a sure bet! So, if you

>are sick, you can either continue to be sick and miserable until you

>have to do something about the implants, or you can do something

>about them right now. In thelong run, it's probably better for

>your health to get rid of them sooner than later. The sooner you

>do, the sooner you can be getting your health back.

>

>I hope this helps. I know it's hard. Been there, done that, so

>that's why my advice is to move forward on explant, don't look back,

>stay positive about your outcome and give your body time to

>heal. In the end, if you have a successful recovery like me, you

>will discover that you can love your real, soft and natural breasts

>as they are and enjoy life once again, stronger and wiser.

>take care,

>Patty

>schellkrista <schellkrista@...> wrote:

>Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

>periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have some

>WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

>light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so months.

>I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to

>Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have any

>problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March

>of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

>(shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke up

>with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started

>to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of

>brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. I

>decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need

>to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both taken

>out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the

>same time.

>The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant

>replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS to

>have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole

>in the back of the implant.

>Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.

>However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side pain

>became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

>tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram

>done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

>correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PT

>and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)

>but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,

>this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,

>I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

>properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all

>the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

>throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

>walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

>just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

>swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went back

>to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I was

>starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feel

>good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

>Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I kept

>dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be making

>me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having

>quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

>research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what I

>found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar

>symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

>shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely

>safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

>I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

>explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with her for

>next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure what

>to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problems

>are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have them

>removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

>without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of my

>problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know it's

>a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

>Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a

>similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?

>I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, I

>just want my life back.

>I would truly appreciate any advice!

>~Krista

>

>

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Krista, That pain in the feet is almost a dead giveaway that the implants are doing something bad to her immune system. I'm sorry that your mom has to deal with this too. I hope she will be open to discussing this with you, and possibly considering her options--she definitely needs to be prepared to make decisions about her implants if her health turns for the worse and she shows signs of worse immune system involvement as she gets older. I hope she does not let her husband control her decision also. We often think that our implants will "make or break" our marriage...but in reality the guys generally learn to deal with it! If they can't, then they've got issues to overcome as well, mainly learning to love a woman for who she is, rather than what she is. (And she is not a pair of boobs.) Pattyschellkrista <schellkrista@...>

wrote: You guys are all so wonderful and sweet. I just can't thank you allenough for the support and kinds words. I'm just sitting here crying,I guess it was just a matter of time before I'd have a good cry overall this. Good thing hubby is working out of town tonight or he mightthink I was a little nutty sitting here crying. I just got off thephone with him and I assured him that all of this would be over soonand his response was "good, I just want my baby back." ugh!Anyway, my mom has been complaining a lot about random aches andpains.

She told me that her doctors are telling her she probably hasarthritis, but the thing is is that we don't have arthritis in ourfamily and my mom seems to be a little young for that (she's 50.) Andnow she's saying that the bottoms of her feet have been killing herand she can barely walk. I know there are other things too that I'mnot recalling. I will ask her when I talk to her. I definitely thinkshe is denial that any of her problems are being caused by herimplants, she seems to be chalking it up to getting older, but I justdon't know.I was told the SAME thing about my implants. That they would last meforever and if I ever had a deflation (which I did) that it will justget absorbed into my body. I cannot believe the stuff that they failto tell you. There is NO WAY that I would have risked my health to getthese things had I known of all these complications. I was desperate,but not that desperate!Thanks for your kind

words in telling me this isn't my fault. I dofeel like I was lied to in so many ways. I know that my husband and Iwill get through this, it just really puts a damper on our lives andour plans. We thought we'd have kids by now, but we've had to puteverything on hold. His dream (he told me tonight) is to take me, ourchildren (which we don't have yet) and our dog (which we don't haveyet) on hikes up to the Rocky Mountains. I just kept promising himthat we'd be able to do this soon. Sigh....You guys are wonderful, thank you,Krista> > > >> > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been> > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have> some> > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some> > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so> > > months. > > > > I got saline implants about 4

years in ago in California. Imoved to> > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not> have any> > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then inMarch> > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side> > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I> woke up> > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I alsostarted> > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and asort of> > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel> right. I> > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew Iwould need> > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both> taken> > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other

health problemsat the> > > > same time. > > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have theimplant> > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original> PS to> > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he founda hole> > > > in the back of the implant.> > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the> surgery.> > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left> side pain> > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood> > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had anelectromyogram> > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working> > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did> do PT>

> > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but> okay,)> > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptomsback,> > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt> so bad,> > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working> > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was sotired all> > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired> > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking> > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body> > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were> > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I> went back> > > > to the doctor....more tests,

everything came back normal AGAIN.> I was> > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I> didn't feel> > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.> > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I> kept> > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be> making> > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was stillhaving> > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little> > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at> what I> > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down withsimilar> > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was> > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told

werecompletely> > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.> > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called> > > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with> her for> > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure> what> > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my> problems> > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have> them> > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be> > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all> of my> > > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know> it's> > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.> > > > Anyway, I'm just

curious to know if anyone else out there hashad a> > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice> for me?> > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like> crap, I> > > > just want my life back.> > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!> > > > ~Krista> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.>

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Wow, I will definitely be having another talk with my Mom soon. Her

husband is an idiot and will just tell her she's crazy for thinking

the implants are causing her problems. That's because he's a selfish,

ignorant man. I am definitely going to have her get on this forum and

talk to all of you.

Thanks Patty

~Krista

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have

been

> > > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have

> > some

> > > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to

shed some

> > > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8

or so

> > > > months.

> > > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I

> moved to

> > > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

> > have any

> > > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in

> March

> > > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

> > woke up

> > > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

> started

> > > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a

> sort of

> > > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

> > right. I

> > > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I

> would need

> > > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both

> > taken

> > > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems

> at the

> > > > > same time.

> > > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the

> implant

> > > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original

> > PS to

> > > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found

> a hole

> > > > > in the back of the implant.

> > > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

> > surgery.

> > > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

> > side pain

> > > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended

blood

> > > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an

> electromyogram

> > > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did

> > do PT

> > > > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

> > okay,)

> > > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms

> back,

> > > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

> > so bad,

> > > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so

> tired all

> > > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house,

taking

> > > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My

whole body

> > > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes

were

> > > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

> > went back

> > > > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.

> > I was

> > > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

> > didn't feel

> > > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me

anymore.

> > > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I

> > kept

> > > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be

> > making

> > > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still

> having

> > > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

> > what I

> > > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with

> similar

> > > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly.

I was

> > > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were

> completely

> > > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with

> > her for

> > > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure

> > what

> > > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

> > problems

> > > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have

> > them

> > > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all

> > of my

> > > > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know

> > it's

> > > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has

> had a

> > > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

> > for me?

> > > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

> > crap, I

> > > > > just want my life back.

> > > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > > > ~Krista

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks again Patty- This post meant a lot to me. I sent it to my

husband because I think it sheds a great amount of light on this subject.

I am going through the same thing you went through. This is so

embarrassing to say but I wanted implants so bad that after college I

moved back in with my mom so that I could save money to get them. I

put myself on a strict budget and saved every penny I could. I saved

up enough in less than a year to get them! Ugh! Quite embarrassing.

I am definitely at the point with the brain fog, aches and pains being

too much to handle. I don't even want to leave the house because I

feel so bad. I force myself to get up and go to work everyday, to go

to the grocery store, it's awful.

I read your post on detoxification and it is definitely something that

I will look very seriously into and figure out what is good for me. I

am a very dedicated girl when I put my mind to something. I've already

started in a way. I've thought over the past few months that I had

chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia (I'm still convinced I

don't) so I started treating that naturally with changing my diet,

eating organically and taking natural supplements. But, I am

definitely interested in trying some things that other women have had

success with after implant problems.

I've been telling my husband the same thing you said at the end of

your post...that implants do not last a lifetime, and 10 years (give

or take a few) from now I will be faced with a decision when one of

them deflates again to either have them removed or replaced. How many

more surgeries am I willing to have?? I figure it's best to get them

removed now, not only to improve my health, but to hopefully be done

with surgeries, and also have a better chance of everything bouncing

back to " normal " since my skin is still elastic and I have not had

children yet.

Thank you thank you thank you AGAIN!

~Krista

> Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and

have been

> periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have some

> WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

months.

> I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I moved to

> Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not have any

> problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in March

> of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I woke up

> with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also started

> to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a sort of

> brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel right. I

> decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I would need

> to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both taken

> out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems at the

> same time.

> The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the implant

> replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original PS to

> have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found a hole

> in the back of the implant.

> Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the surgery.

> However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left side pain

> became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an electromyogram

> done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did do PT

> and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but okay,)

> but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms back,

> this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt so bad,

> I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so tired all

> the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I went back

> to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN. I was

> starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I didn't feel

> good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I kept

> dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be making

> me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still having

> quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at what I

> found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with similar

> symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were completely

> safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> explantation.com. I have made a consultation appointment with her for

> next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure what

> to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my problems

> are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have them

> removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all of my

> problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know it's

> a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has had a

> similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice for me?

> I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like crap, I

> just want my life back.

> I would truly appreciate any advice!

> ~Krista

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Lynn,

Thanks..... that made me laugh out loud! (and I know it is true)

> > > >

> > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have

> some

> > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

> > > months.

> > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I

moved to

> > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

> have any

> > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in

March

> > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

> woke up

> > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

> started

> > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a

sort of

> > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

> right. I

> > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I

would need

> > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both

> taken

> > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems

at the

> > > > same time.

> > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the

implant

> > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original

> PS to

> > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found

a hole

> > > > in the back of the implant.

> > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

> surgery.

> > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

> side pain

> > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an

electromyogram

> > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did

> do PT

> > > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

> okay,)

> > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms

back,

> > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

> so bad,

> > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so

tired all

> > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

> went back

> > > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.

> I was

> > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

> didn't feel

> > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I

> kept

> > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be

> making

> > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still

having

> > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

> what I

> > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with

similar

> > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were

completely

> > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with

> her for

> > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure

> what

> > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

> problems

> > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have

> them

> > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all

> of my

> > > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know

> it's

> > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has

had a

> > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

> for me?

> > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

> crap, I

> > > > just want my life back.

> > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > > ~Krista

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Krista,

It was good to tell your friend. You need support through this. You

will get better and be a stronger more wonderful you for your husband.

I had the same emotional reaction when I told my 2 adult sons. I

broke down and told them that I never would have had implants if I had

known that I was putting my health at such a risk. I'm their mother,

I need to be there for them. I of course apologize to my husband all

the time.... they have all been great. They are watching and happy

that I am getting better and have a new chance at a healthy life.

> > > >

> > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been

> > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have

> some

> > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some

> > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so

> > > months.

> > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. I

moved to

> > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not

> have any

> > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then in

March

> > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side

> > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I

> woke up

> > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I also

started

> > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and a

sort of

> > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel

> right. I

> > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew I

would need

> > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both

> taken

> > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problems

at the

> > > > same time.

> > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have the

implant

> > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original

> PS to

> > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he found

a hole

> > > > in the back of the implant.

> > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the

> surgery.

> > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left

> side pain

> > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood

> > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an

electromyogram

> > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working

> > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did

> do PT

> > > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but

> okay,)

> > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptoms

back,

> > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt

> so bad,

> > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working

> > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was so

tired all

> > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired

> > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking

> > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body

> > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were

> > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I

> went back

> > > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.

> I was

> > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I

> didn't feel

> > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.

> > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I

> kept

> > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be

> making

> > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was still

having

> > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little

> > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at

> what I

> > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down with

similar

> > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was

> > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told were

completely

> > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called

> > > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with

> her for

> > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure

> what

> > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my

> problems

> > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have

> them

> > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be

> > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all

> of my

> > > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know

> it's

> > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there has

had a

> > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice

> for me?

> > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like

> crap, I

> > > > just want my life back.

> > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > > ~Krista

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Krista, I am worried about your mother. How long has she had her breast implants, and are they silicone or saline? She has symptoms, and we hope that she will take your advice.

Honey, you have made the correct decision, because these devices are destroying so many lives. I too cried a lot because it destroyed our family. I was so very sick, and no one believed me, they thought that I was wanting attention.

Stay close, and we will help you to get through this...love you.....Lea

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You guys are all so wonderful and sweet. I just can't thank you allenough for the support and kinds words. I'm just sitting here crying,I guess it was just a matter of time before I'd have a good cry overall this. Good thing hubby is working out of town tonight or he mightthink I was a little nutty sitting here crying. I just got off thephone with him and I assured him that all of this would be over soonand his response was "good, I just want my baby back." ugh!Anyway, my mom has been complaining a lot about random aches andpains. She told me that her doctors are telling her she probably hasarthritis, but the thing is is that we don't have arthritis in ourfamily and my mom seems to be a little young for that (she's 50.) Andnow she's saying that the bottoms of her feet have been killing herand she can barely walk. I know there are other things too that I'mnot recalling. I will ask her when I talk to her. I definitely thinkshe is denial that any of her problems are being caused by herimplants, she seems to be chalking it up to getting older, but I justdon't know.I was told the SAME thing about my implants. That they would last meforever and if I ever had a deflation (which I did) that it will justget absorbed into my body. I cannot believe the stuff that they failto tell you. There is NO WAY that I would have risked my health to getthese things had I known of all these complications. I was desperate,but not that desperate!Thanks for your kind words in telling me this isn't my fault. I dofeel like I was lied to in so many ways. I know that my husband and Iwill get through this, it just really puts a damper on our lives andour plans. We thought we'd have kids by now, but we've had to puteverything on hold. His dream (he told me tonight) is to take me, ourchildren (which we don't have yet) and our dog (which we don't haveyet) on hikes up to the Rocky Mountains. I just kept promising himthat we'd be able to do this soon. Sigh....You guys are wonderful, thank you,Krista> > > >> > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and have been> > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you all have> some> > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able to shed some> > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the last 8 or so> > > months. > > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in California. Imoved to> > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I did not> have any> > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years, then inMarch> > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my left side> > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after that, I> woke up> > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I alsostarted> > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body and asort of> > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just didn't feel> right. I> > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew Iwould need> > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced, or both> taken> > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health problemsat the> > > > same time. > > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have theimplant> > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my original> PS to> > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he founda hole> > > > in the back of the implant.> > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so after the> surgery.> > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The left> side pain> > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she recommended blood> > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had anelectromyogram> > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were working> > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal and I did> do PT> > > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not great, but> okay,)> > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the symptomsback,> > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at times hurt> so bad,> > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't working> > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was sotired all> > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was still tired> > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the house, taking> > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My whole body> > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph nodes were> > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a cold. I> went back> > > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back normal AGAIN.> I was> > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing why I> didn't feel> > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for me anymore.> > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the implants. But, I> kept> > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and could not be> making> > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was stillhaving> > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do a little> > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty amazed at> what I> > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down withsimilar> > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just randomly. I was> > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told werecompletely> > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.> > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across called> > > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation appointment with> her for> > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm not sure> what> > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all of my> problems> > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I will have> them> > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared to not be> > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away and all> of my> > > > problems being something not caused by the implants. But, I know> it's> > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.> > > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out there hashad a> > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any advice> for me?> > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of feeling like> crap, I> > > > just want my life back.> > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!> > > > ~Krista> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Need a vacation? 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Hi Lea- I am worried about my Mom too. She got her implants a few

months after I did, so it's been 3 1/2 years. Hers are saline like

mine. I will definitely be talking to her again and see if I can get

her on this support group. I think it would be really good for her to

hear what you all have to say.

Yes, I do believe that I am making the right decision, but it is

really hard to talk about with family and friends. I am afraid they

will think it's all in my head and that I'm just being irrational.

But, I know that that is not what is important. What is important is

that I beleive in my heart that these things are causing me so many

problems. My husband is finally coming around too, which I am

thankful for. When I first brought it up he didn't want me to have

them removed because he thought there was no way they could be

causing me to feel this way, but the more I talk to him the more he

is believing me and supporting getting them removed.

Sometimes I just wish he could know how I feel, just for 5 minutes,

so that he'd know what I am struggling with everyday. It's hard to

say to somebody " I'm tired " or " I ache all over " they just don't get

it. I look normal from the outside so he forgets all the time that I

don't feel good and can't keep up with our active lifestyle like I

used to. I know he is getting frustrated with me being tired and

irritable all the time. I'm just ready for this nightmare to be over.

Thanks for listening.

~Krista

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Ladies- I recently ran across this support forum and

have been

> > > > > periodically checking your posts, and it seems like you

all have

> > some

> > > > > WONDERFUL advice. I am hoping some of you may be able

to shed some

> > > > > light and advice on what I am been going through the

last 8 or so

> > > > months.

> > > > > I got saline implants about 4 years in ago in

California. I

> moved to

> > > > > Denver about a year later and have been here since. I

did not

> > have any

> > > > > problems with my implants for about the first 3 years,

then in

> March

> > > > > of this year I started to develop a strange pain in my

left side

> > > > > (shoulder, arm, chest, etc.) About a week or so after

that, I

> > woke up

> > > > > with my left implant deflated. Around this same time, I

also

> started

> > > > > to develop strange aches and pains throughout my body

and a

> sort of

> > > > > brain fogginess, abnormal intense fatigue, I just

didn't feel

> > right. I

> > > > > decided to keep these feelings to myself because I knew

I

> would need

> > > > > to undergo surgery to either have the implant replaced,

or both

> > taken

> > > > > out and I didn't want to deal with the other health

problems

> at the

> > > > > same time.

> > > > > The easiest thing for me at the time was to simply have

the

> implant

> > > > > replaced. So, I flew back to CA a few weeks later to my

original

> > PS to

> > > > > have it replaced. The only thing he told me was that he

found

> a hole

> > > > > in the back of the implant.

> > > > > Most of my symptoms subsided for about a week or so

after the

> > surgery.

> > > > > However, a week or so later the symptoms came back. The

left

> > side pain

> > > > > became unbearable. I went to see my doctor, she

recommended blood

> > > > > tests, physical therapy and massage therapy. I had an

> electromyogram

> > > > > done to check and make sure my nerves and muscles were

working

> > > > > correctly on my left side. All tests came back normal

and I did

> > do PT

> > > > > and MT for a few weeks. For awhile I felt okay (not

great, but

> > okay,)

> > > > > but in about mid-August I started to get many of the

symptoms

> back,

> > > > > this time worse then before. The left side pain, at

times hurt

> > so bad,

> > > > > I just wanted to cry. My brain felt like it just wasn't

working

> > > > > properly and I felt like I was living in a cloud. I was

so

> tired all

> > > > > the time and no matter how much sleep I got, I was

still tired

> > > > > throughout the day. Anything physical (cleaning the

house, taking

> > > > > walks, shopping, etc.) would just make me exhausted. My

whole body

> > > > > just ached like I had the achy flu and all of my lymph

nodes were

> > > > > swollen as if I was constantly trying to fight off a

cold. I

> > went back

> > > > > to the doctor....more tests, everything came back

normal AGAIN.

> > I was

> > > > > starting to get more and more frustrated not knowing

why I

> > didn't feel

> > > > > good. My doctor, at this point just had no answers for

me anymore.

> > > > > Somewhere deep inside I had been suspecting the

implants. But, I

> > kept

> > > > > dismissing it because I thought they were safe and

could not be

> > making

> > > > > me so sick. But, in mid-September when I realized I was

still

> having

> > > > > quite a bit of pain in my left breast, I decided to do

a little

> > > > > research. After quite a bit of digging, I was pretty

amazed at

> > what I

> > > > > found. So many stories out there of girls who came down

with

> similar

> > > > > symptoms as mine either after a deflation or just

randomly. I was

> > > > > shocked to find out that the salines that I was told

were

> completely

> > > > > safe are actually encased in a silicone shell.

> > > > > I found Dr. Huang on a website that I ran across

called

> > > > > explantation. com. I have made a consultation

appointment with

> > her for

> > > > > next week. I'm really nervous about all of this and I'm

not sure

> > what

> > > > > to expect. Part of me is hoping she'll tell me that all

of my

> > problems

> > > > > are definitely being caused by my implants, and then I

will have

> > them

> > > > > removed and be myself again. But, part of me is scared

to not be

> > > > > without the implants, and then the symptoms not go away

and all

> > of my

> > > > > problems being something not caused by the implants.

But, I know

> > it's

> > > > > a risk I have to take for my health and my future.

> > > > > Anyway, I'm just curious to know if anyone else out

there has

> had a

> > > > > similar experience as mine, and if so, do you have any

advice

> > for me?

> > > > > I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I'm tired of

feeling like

> > crap, I

> > > > > just want my life back.

> > > > > I would truly appreciate any advice!

> > > > > ~Krista

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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