Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Dave My afib tends to start when at rest, not unlike your episodes. I also have been succesful in stopping it by exercising. I take 150mg/day of amiodarone. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 > [sip] > I've also recently found out how to stop it as well, but the solution > is rather impractical. I noticed a week or so back that when I got > into bed at night, the AF didn't kick in until I had " settled " down > into bed. You know, all that shuffling and moving and " getting > comfortable " you do when you're going to bed. As soon as I stopped > moving and relaxed, flop-floppity-flop-flop, there it went. As an > experiment, I then started " settling " in again. In other words, I > began shuffling and moving around in bed again...and it stopped. > Until I relaxed, and it started up again. > > Dave Hi Dave, yes your description of the flopping after 'settling down' is excellent. Whilst shuffling is not usually enough to get me out of AF I can often come out of AF if get out of bed and walk around for a few seconds. (but AF usually returns when I've settled back into bed). Some people have found that going to sleep on a recliner helps (I'm guessing that it keeps the rate high enough to avoid the initial trigger), for me, it doesn't work so well but does seem to have a small affect (and it's quicker to get in and out of if I want to raise my heart rate). I suspect we are both susceptible to changes in heart rate but in particular the deceleration that comes with relaxing. (which will also happen when you drink a cold drink) I find it's also quite tricky to go to sleep if I'm walking round my bedroom Welcome to the group -- D (34, Leeds UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Dave - my sister can definitely bring on her a-fib by lying on her back when settling in for the night.. me... mine are almost always triggered by cold drinks.... unfortunately for me, drinking a hot drink after a cold drink does not bring me out of my state, but for my sister, just turning on her side will end her episode. Stef landosenfina wrote: Hello everyone. Just discovered this group today (via the AFNetwork webpage - http://www.dialsolutions.com/af/index.html). I'm a 42-yr old male diagnosed with intermittent (paroxismal I believe they call it) AF about 4 or 5 years ago. I spent the first few years getting annoyed and frustrated that I couldn't find out what was causing it, and stop it. Now I've calmed down a lot, and just accept things as they are. However, I still examine my symptoms, and I've found out some things about my AF that the doctors & consultants I've spoken to seem to ignore. I can almost bring AF on at will by doing something that I quantify as a " change of state " . Knocking back a cold drink of orange juice on a hot day can start it off. Also, just the very act of climbing into bed and lying down can also. It's a bit like being sighted in a world of blind people - doctors & people who don't get AF, don't understand how it " feels " to us. Only other " sufferers " do. I've also recently found out how to stop it as well, but the solution is rather impractical. I noticed a week or so back that when I got into bed at night, the AF didn't kick in until I had " settled " down into bed. You know, all that shuffling and moving and " getting comfortable " you do when you're going to bed. As soon as I stopped moving and relaxed, flop-floppity-flop-flop, there it went. As an experiment, I then started " settling " in again. In other words, I began shuffling and moving around in bed again...and it stopped. Until I relaxed, and it started up again. As I said it's rather impractical for work ( " Hang on, my heart's playing up, I've just got to lie down! " ). Has anyone else encountered this? Incidentally, I'm on 40mg of sotalol twice a day and other than that lead a perfectly normal (if slightly overweight) life. Dave Backup web page - http://afibsupport.proboards23.com List owner: AFIBsupport-owner For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email, send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 I wonder if this caused by Itinerant beats ie ectopics. If you read Cam Waktaire atrial fibrillation this is mentioned in their book. I would have thought that if this is the case, there would be a greater success for these patients have an ablation. C >Dave - my sister can definitely bring on her a-fib by lying on her back when settling in for the night.. me... mine are almost always triggered by cold drinks.... unfortunately for me, drinking a hot drink after a cold drink does not bring me out of my state, but for my sister, just turning on her side will end her episode. > >Stef > >landosenfina wrote: >Hello everyone. > >Just discovered this group today (via the AFNetwork webpage - >http://www.dialsolutions.com/af/index.html). I'm a 42-yr old male >diagnosed with intermittent (paroxismal I believe they call it) AF >about 4 or 5 years ago. > >I spent the first few years getting annoyed and frustrated that I >couldn't find out what was causing it, and stop it. Now I've calmed >down a lot, and just accept things as they are. However, I still >examine my symptoms, and I've found out some things about my AF that >the doctors & consultants I've spoken to seem to ignore. > >I can almost bring AF on at will by doing something that I quantify >as a " change of state " . Knocking back a cold drink of orange juice >on a hot day can start it off. Also, just the very act of climbing >into bed and lying down can also. > >It's a bit like being sighted in a world of blind people - doctors & >people who don't get AF, don't understand how it " feels " to us. Only >other " sufferers " do. > >I've also recently found out how to stop it as well, but the solution >is rather impractical. I noticed a week or so back that when I got >into bed at night, the AF didn't kick in until I had " settled " down >into bed. You know, all that shuffling and moving and " getting >comfortable " you do when you're going to bed. As soon as I stopped >moving and relaxed, flop-floppity-flop-flop, there it went. As an >experiment, I then started " settling " in again. In other words, I >began shuffling and moving around in bed again...and it stopped. >Until I relaxed, and it started up again. > >As I said it's rather impractical for work ( " Hang on, my heart's >playing up, I've just got to lie down! " ). > >Has anyone else encountered this? Incidentally, I'm on 40mg of >sotalol twice a day and other than that lead a perfectly normal (if >slightly overweight) life. > >Dave > > > > > >Backup web page - http://afibsupport.proboards23.com >List owner: AFIBsupport-owner >For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email, >send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help > >Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Hello Dave, > > > > Welcome to our group. I, like you, get episodes when I drink anything > > cold. It started this past spring and summer. I also take Sotalol, > > 80 mg. twice daily which was prescribed by my cardiologist. However, > > my EP said I have vagal afib and I shouldn't be on Sotalol because it > > has a beta blocker and it is contraindicted for vagal atrial > > fibrillation. I am doing well on Sotalol, so I do not want to change > > anything. My EP did say if my attacks continue, he would up the > > dosage. Maybe you need a dosage increase and avoidance of cold > > beverages. I don't know what to advise at night, though. You can't > > jump around in bed all night. Wishing you well, > > Loretta > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Hi . I found that when I relaxed then bang I would go into AF. My Ep informed me that the electrical state of the heart is higly excitable when the heart is resting or you asleep. At 3am when your in your most deepest sleep then your heart electrical circuits are at its most excited point. I suppose if you have a fualt in your heart as we have then this is the opertunity for the pulses or ectops to cause AF. JC >> [sip] >> I've also recently found out how to stop it as well, but the solution >> is rather impractical. I noticed a week or so back that when I got >> into bed at night, the AF didn't kick in until I had " settled " down >> into bed. You know, all that shuffling and moving and " getting >> comfortable " you do when you're going to bed. As soon as I stopped >> moving and relaxed, flop-floppity-flop-flop, there it went. As an >> experiment, I then started " settling " in again. In other words, I >> began shuffling and moving around in bed again...and it stopped. >> Until I relaxed, and it started up again. >> Codling Hornchurch Essex England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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