RE: Re: Synthroid

December 28, 2003

Thanks

Peggy

In a message dated 12/27/03 6:52:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,

danley7@... writes:

<< Now they told me I have an immune disorder Hashamotos

where my immune system is not only attacking bad things in my system

but also they are attacking my thyroid causing this problem. I have not

started the synthroid yet, but I probably will.

>>

Peggy,

Hashimoto's Disease is similar to Graves' Disease, which I have, in that

they

both attack the immune system. I think the standard treatment is to

" kill "

the thyroid gland by having the patient drink a radioactive " cocktail. "

I

never had to have that done because my gland died of its own accord,

fortunately.

Both Graves and hashimoto are quite complex and not easily understood by

the

nonprofessional people because in some cases taking artificial thyroid

hormone

actually suppresses the activity of the gland, if I understood my doctor

correctly . However, that same doctor said that not even all doctors

completely

understand the two diseases. If your TSH is 10, that fact alone could

be

causing afib for you. When .I went without Synthroid for weeks, my TSH

went up to

10, and I was having afib most of the time. Since I have switched from

Synthroid to Levoxyl, everything has been more stable. I take .125 six

days a

week, and that seems to keep my test results within acceptable

parameters. You

might want to check to see if Synthroid has been approved by the FDA

yet. There

were some problems with it for a while, relating to inconsistent doses;

but I

imagine the makers have remedied that by now. It has been in use for

over 40

years but somehow managed to escape FDA requirements for approval. At

the

time I switched to Levoxyl, only two thyroid drugs had been approved by

the FDA,

and Synthroid was not one of them. I think you should do what your

doctor

tells you to do, though, because he or she undoubtedly knows more about

the

current status of Synthroid than I do. If you have problems with

Synthroid, you

might ask to try Levoxyl or the other one, the name of which I can't

remember.

in sinus in Seattle

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December 28, 2003

Hi I am a little bit concerend with the treatment you are

using for your thyroid problems.natural

>progesterone cream is really for your adreanal glands and

although this is connected, your really treating your self

for adreanal stress.

is you TSH at 10? if so you are hypothryiod as it should be

around 0.3 -3.0.

Be careful sefl treating as with Afib is can casue problems.

C Uk

>

>Hi thanks for the reply. It seems when I am in afib my

thyroid is

>10, but it has also gone down again. I recently started on

a natural

>progesterone cream which is supposed to be good for your

thyroid. I am

>allergic to dairy products so I don't have anything with

dairy. I am 59

>and have had afib off and on for about 5 years. I always

have had some

>strange beats, and tacacardia occasionally, but no afib

that I knew of

>before that. I was on thyroid pills when I was pregnant

many years ago,

>but was told I did not need them any more. I started

getting really

>nervous, sweating and had a fast heartbeat so that is why

they stopped

>the thyroid pills. Now they told me I have an immune

disorder Hashamotos

>where my immune system is not only attacking bad things in

my system

>but also they are attacking my thyroid causing this

problem. I have not

>started the synthroid yet, but I probably will.

>

>Thanks

>Peggy

>

>Peggy,

>Both hypo and hyperthyroid can cause afib. Since I have had

Graves'

>Disease

>most of my life but my thyroid gland has never been killed,

my doctor

>checks

>my thyroid level (TSH and free T4) twice a year. Since I

stopped doing

>foolish

>experiments on my own, my thyroid level has been perfect in

every test.

>When

>I tried cutting Synthroid completely without my doctor's

approval, my

>afib

>worsened drastically. It seems that this is because the

adrenal gland

>secretes

>extra adrenaline when the pituitary tells the brain that

there isn't

>enough

>available thyroid hormone. The adrenaline can cause afib.

Similarly,

>too much

>thyroid can cause afib. I've had it both ways. Since I

switched to

>Levoxyl

>from Synthroid, my TSH has stayed stable and my afib

episodes are

>practically

>nonexistent. However, I attribute the decrease in afib

mainly to

>elimination

>of dairy products from my diet. You might want to ask your

doctor for

>more

>frequent thyroid tests, since results can vary widely. For

example, my

>brother

>in permanent afib showed low thyroid on the first two of

three tests

>given to

>him in a three week period. On a third test, the results

were normal

>and have

>been normal ever since. Fortunately his cautious doctor did

not

>prescribe

>thyroid hormone on the basis of the first two erroneous

tests. My

>experience

>with thyroid treatment is that it takes time and vigilance

to get the

>right

>treatment dose.

> in sinus in Seattle

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December 28, 2003

In a message dated 12/28/2003 8:02:02 AM Pacific Standard Time,

johncodling@... writes:

<< Be careful self treating as with Afib it can cause problems >>

I support that statement. I tried adjusting my own Synthroid dose about

three years ago with the knowledge but not the approval of my doctor. I learned

my lesson because I had more afib than at any other time during my 20 years of

afib. I had reasoned that less Synthroid would be likely to reduce my afib

episodes. Instead, the effect was opposite to my expectations. Now I let my

doctor decide what I should do. She always listens to and considers my input,

acceding to my requests if possible, but she makes the final decision, which I

follow. There is no substitute for the knowledge of a trained medical

professional.

in sinus in Seattle

December 10, 2004

Excellent on the cholesterol levels, !That is one thing that is

symptomatic of thyroid disease, especially if resistant to diet/meds, that

as you are showing can be helped by thyroid hormones if you have thyroid

disease.

Hopefully, your sleep will improve too..

Feisty

Re: Synthroid

>

> Thanks everyone for your advice. I went to the doc after one month

> on 25mcgs of S. My blood work is starting to show improvement but he

> said and I agree that I must increase much more. He knows the

> difficulty that I had with Armour so he said to take 50 mcgs for a

> week and then go to 100. I have a box that is unopened with 75mcgs

> of S. He is somewhat leaving it up to me as to how fast I get up to

> 100. I have a pill cutter. So today I took my 25mcgs plus 1/4 of the

> 75. If I handle that ok I will go to 50 a day in the next couple of

> days. By the way, just being on 25 for a month my total cholesterol

> went from 310 to 266. Hopefully it will keep coming down. Also, I am

> hoping my sleep will improve as well.

>

> gary

>

> > As long as it's been sealed and at proper temp the stuff is good

> for

> > three years after expiration... I got that from a professor at a

> medical

> > college.

> >

> > Topper ()

> >

> > On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:11:06 -0000 " " <garyland@y...> writes:

> > Does Synthroid have to be thrown out right at its exp date. I have

> a

> > free box from the doc that expires 1/1/05. Can I use it in Feb. 05?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

December 10, 2004