Re: newbie

April 8, 2005

Please see the following link published by the AACE,

the new high range for TSH is 3.0. A higher than 3.0

lab result would be indicative of Hypothyroidism,

which is a LOW thyroid. This is at least partially

why you gained 15 pounds recently, assuming you have

been eating a normal amount etc. And with a TSH that

high, I bet you were eating normally, if not lower

than normal amounts.

http://www.aace.com/pub/tam2003/press.php

Show this to your doctor. And tell him he better " do

something " about your low thyroid, despite his

ignorance about TSH tests. This is what pisses me off

about many doctors. They require so much money,

insurance, labs etc., and yet most dont know what they

are doing and people are suffering.

Based on your labs and symptoms, you are HypoT. The

fact that your doctor is not properly educated on

thyroid disease, is HIS problem. Dont let him make it

your problem. Life is too short.

Feel better please,

SAMMIE

--- Carol wrote:

> the test was TSH, in which I have a copy

>

> Sammie Baker wrote:I'm assuming

> this test was for TSH, in which case you

> wouldn't be borderline HypoT, you would be

> definetely

> HypoT.

>

> Can you find out for sure which test it is? You

> need

> to be tested for TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 to get a

> full assessment of thyroid function. I would

> recommend you seeing your GYN again to get all these

> tests and report back to us.

>

> SAMMIE

>

> --- bsl0619 wrote:

>

> >

> > I went last week to my GYN, thinking I was going

> > thru perimenopause.

> > I have gain 15 lbs since Sept, I am tired all the

> > time, along with

> > always being cold. She said it sounded more like

> my

> > thryroid. The

> > test came back yesterday, at 5.62. I call my

> > internal doc, and he

> > said it border line hypothyroid, but didn't want

> to

> > do anything about

> > it at this time. I understand that 5.5 was their

> "

> > high, but still

> > normal " , but it obviously is not normal for me,

> > otherwise I would not

> > feel like I do. How do you convince doctors, what

> > is normal for one,

> > may not be normal for you?

> >

>

> __________________________________

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> Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second

> dates.

> http://personals.yahoo.com

>

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>

April 8, 2005

Thank you, I've printed it off.....boy look out come Tuesday!!!! :)Sammie Baker wrote:

Please see the following link published by the AACE,the new high range for TSH is 3.0. A higher than 3.0lab result would be indicative of Hypothyroidism,which is a LOW thyroid. This is at least partiallywhy you gained 15 pounds recently, assuming you havebeen eating a normal amount etc. And with a TSH thathigh, I bet you were eating normally, if not lowerthan normal amounts.http://www.aace.com/pub/tam2003/press.phpShow this to your doctor. And tell him he better "dosomething" about your low thyroid, despite hisignorance about TSH tests. This is what pisses me offabout many doctors. They require so much money,insurance, labs etc., and yet most dont know what theyare doing and people are suffering.Based on your labs and

symptoms, you are HypoT. Thefact that your doctor is not properly educated onthyroid disease, is HIS problem. Dont let him make ityour problem. Life is too short.Feel better please,SAMMIE--- Carol wrote:> the test was TSH, in which I have a copy> > Sammie Baker wrote:I'm assuming> this test was for TSH, in which case you> wouldn't be borderline HypoT, you would be> definetely> HypoT.> > Can you find out for sure which test it is? You> need> to be tested for TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 to get a> full assessment of thyroid function. I would> recommend you seeing your GYN again to get all these> tests and report back to us.> > > SAMMIE> > --- bsl0619 wrote:> > > > > I went last week

to my GYN, thinking I was going> > thru perimenopause. > > I have gain 15 lbs since Sept, I am tired all the> > time, along with > > always being cold. She said it sounded more like> my> > thryroid. The > > test came back yesterday, at 5.62. I call my> > internal doc, and he > > said it border line hypothyroid, but didn't want> to> > do anything about > > it at this time. I understand that 5.5 was their> "> > high, but still > > normal", but it obviously is not normal for me,> > otherwise I would not > > feel like I do. How do you convince doctors, what> > is normal for one, > > may not be normal for you?> > > > > > > > > > > >

> __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second> dates. > http://personals.yahoo.com> > > > --------------------------------->

April 8, 2005

I have been eating very small amounts of food. I am a very healthy eater as well....no junk food period. I eat a very small bowl (1/2 cup) of protein cereal in the am, a lean cusine for lunch....and no dinner. And still gaining weight. I did find on another web site about coconut oil. I started taking it last week, I have lost a 1 1/2, and have a lot more energy the last couple of days. Sammie Baker wrote:

Please see the following link published by the AACE,the new high range for TSH is 3.0. A higher than 3.0lab result would be indicative of Hypothyroidism,which is a LOW thyroid. This is at least partiallywhy you gained 15 pounds recently, assuming you havebeen eating a normal amount etc. And with a TSH thathigh, I bet you were eating normally, if not lowerthan normal amounts.http://www.aace.com/pub/tam2003/press.phpShow this to your doctor. And tell him he better "dosomething" about your low thyroid, despite hisignorance about TSH tests. This is what pisses me offabout many doctors. They require so much money,insurance, labs etc., and yet most dont know what theyare doing and people are suffering.Based on your labs and

symptoms, you are HypoT. Thefact that your doctor is not properly educated onthyroid disease, is HIS problem. Dont let him make ityour problem. Life is too short.Feel better please,SAMMIE--- Carol wrote:> the test was TSH, in which I have a copy> > Sammie Baker wrote:I'm assuming> this test was for TSH, in which case you> wouldn't be borderline HypoT, you would be> definetely> HypoT.> > Can you find out for sure which test it is? You> need> to be tested for TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 to get a> full assessment of thyroid function. I would> recommend you seeing your GYN again to get all these> tests and report back to us.> > > SAMMIE> > --- bsl0619 wrote:> > > > > I went last week

to my GYN, thinking I was going> > thru perimenopause. > > I have gain 15 lbs since Sept, I am tired all the> > time, along with > > always being cold. She said it sounded more like> my> > thryroid. The > > test came back yesterday, at 5.62. I call my> > internal doc, and he > > said it border line hypothyroid, but didn't want> to> > do anything about > > it at this time. I understand that 5.5 was their> "> > high, but still > > normal", but it obviously is not normal for me,> > otherwise I would not > > feel like I do. How do you convince doctors, what> > is normal for one, > > may not be normal for you?> > > > > > > > > > > >

> __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second> dates. > http://personals.yahoo.com> > > > --------------------------------->

April 8, 2005

you need thyroid meds. be sure to get tested for free

t4 and free t3 and start searching for a competent doc

or endo. i've visited that coconut oil site. cant

say that it worked for me, but we are all different.

sammie

--- Carol wrote:

> I have been eating very small amounts of food. I am

> a very healthy eater as well....no junk food period.

> I eat a very small bowl (1/2 cup) of protein cereal

> in the am, a lean cusine for lunch....and no dinner.

> And still gaining weight. I did find on another

> web site about coconut oil. I started taking it

> last week, I have lost a 1 1/2, and have a lot more

> energy the last couple of days.

>

> Sammie Baker wrote:Please see

> the following link published by the AACE,

> the new high range for TSH is 3.0. A higher than

> 3.0

> lab result would be indicative of Hypothyroidism,

> which is a LOW thyroid. This is at least partially

> why you gained 15 pounds recently, assuming you have

> been eating a normal amount etc. And with a TSH

> that

> high, I bet you were eating normally, if not lower

> than normal amounts.

>

> http://www.aace.com/pub/tam2003/press.php

>

> Show this to your doctor. And tell him he better

> " do

> something " about your low thyroid, despite his

> ignorance about TSH tests. This is what pisses me

> off

> about many doctors. They require so much money,

> insurance, labs etc., and yet most dont know what

> they

> are doing and people are suffering.

>

> Based on your labs and symptoms, you are HypoT. The

> fact that your doctor is not properly educated on

> thyroid disease, is HIS problem. Dont let him make

> it

> your problem. Life is too short.

>

> Feel better please,

>

> SAMMIE

>

> --- Carol wrote:

>

> > the test was TSH, in which I have a copy

> >

> > Sammie Baker wrote:I'm

> assuming

> > this test was for TSH, in which case you

> > wouldn't be borderline HypoT, you would be

> > definetely

> > HypoT.

> >

> > Can you find out for sure which test it is? You

> > need

> > to be tested for TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 to get a

> > full assessment of thyroid function. I would

> > recommend you seeing your GYN again to get all

> these

> > tests and report back to us.

> >

> > SAMMIE

> >

> > --- bsl0619 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > I went last week to my GYN, thinking I was going

> > > thru perimenopause.

> > > I have gain 15 lbs since Sept, I am tired all

> the

> > > time, along with

> > > always being cold. She said it sounded more

> like

> > my

> > > thryroid. The

> > > test came back yesterday, at 5.62. I call my

> > > internal doc, and he

> > > said it border line hypothyroid, but didn't want

> > to

> > > do anything about

> > > it at this time. I understand that 5.5 was

> their

> > "

> > > high, but still

> > > normal " , but it obviously is not normal for me,

> > > otherwise I would not

> > > feel like I do. How do you convince doctors,

> what

> > > is normal for one,

> > > may not be normal for you?

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________

> > Do you Yahoo!?

> > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second

> > dates.

> > http://personals.yahoo.com

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

April 10, 2005

You just won the boody prize, lol! This is THE main topic on all our

forums. I'm winging it on my own because of this stupidity, but also lack

of funds, to boot.

Newbie

>

> I went last week to my GYN, thinking I was going thru perimenopause.

> I have gain 15 lbs since Sept, I am tired all the time, along with

> always being cold. She said it sounded more like my thryroid. The

> test came back yesterday, at 5.62. I call my internal doc, and he

> said it border line hypothyroid, but didn't want to do anything about

> it at this time. I understand that 5.5 was their " high, but still

> normal " , but it obviously is not normal for me, otherwise I would not

> feel like I do. How do you convince doctors, what is normal for one,

> may not be normal for you?

April 10, 2005

Never, absolutely NEVER starve a hypothyroid body for food, or it will be even more detrimental. I'm not saying to stuff constantly, BUT low thyroid people need smaller more frequent meals, so that their body won't go into the "save everything you can find and turn it into fat mode". A body with slow metabolism already IS starving itself, but when you eat meals far apart, it will turn everything to fat to save for a later date because it "thinks" it's starving.

Re: Newbie

I have been eating very small amounts of food. I am a very healthy eater as well....no junk food period. I eat a very small bowl (1/2 cup) of protein cereal in the am, a lean cusine for lunch....and no dinner. And still gaining weight. I did find on another web site about coconut oil. I started taking it last week, I have lost a 1 1/2, and have a lot more energy the last couple of days.

April 10, 2005

Any suggestions on what to do with one's 7 year old son who barely is touching 40 pounds and looks like one of the starving kids on those "give us money to feed these kids" commercials? He'll eat breakfast. He eats a small bit of lunch. He'll eat almost nothing at supper. Can hardly get him to snack in between. I'm beginning to worry our next issue with him will be sticking him in the hospital to tube feed him so he'll gain a bit of weight. And this from the kid who is hypo. But the ASD he has is fighting that (3 symptoms are poor appetite, poor weight gain, frequent pneumonias). So maybe once his heart surgery is done, that will turn around.

Ami

Re: Newbie

Never, absolutely NEVER starve a hypothyroid body for food, or it will be even more detrimental. I'm not saying to stuff constantly, BUT low thyroid people need smaller more frequent meals, so that their body won't go into the "save everything you can find and turn it into fat mode". A body with slow metabolism already IS starving itself, but when you eat meals far apart, it will turn everything to fat to save for a later date because it "thinks" it's starving.

April 11, 2005

I would ask the doctor to do a simple x-ray of the wrist to determine

the bone age of the child and not the genetic age.

I have a 7 year old boy who just finally passed the 40 lb mark..problem

is he is healthy and eats all the time. He has been through tests after

tests to come to the conclusion that he has growth delay which is

hereditary. I do know that hypo will also cause growth delay because of

the slower metabolism and should correct itself with thyroid hormones

but they can take an x-ray of the left wrist and tell you how old his

bones and body is and his wieght might actually be fine for his bone

age and actually be less of a worry.

My boy is 5 % on the charts for hieght and 5 % below the charts for

wieght..but he is monitored on his own line and is actually 25%-30 % on

both charts for his bone age which makes things at least easier on the

stress levels..

> Any suggestions on what to do with one's 7 year old son who barely is

touching 40 pounds and looks like one of the starving kids on

those " give us money to feed these kids " commercials? He'll eat

breakfast. He eats a small bit of lunch. He'll eat almost nothing at

supper. Can hardly get him to snack in between. I'm beginning to

worry our next issue with him will be sticking him in the hospital to

tube feed him so he'll gain a bit of weight. And this from the kid who

is hypo. But the ASD he has is fighting that (3 symptoms are poor

appetite, poor weight gain, frequent pneumonias). So maybe once his

heart surgery is done, that will turn around.

>

April 11, 2005

's height is fine. It's his weight only. He truly does look like one

of those starving children. I bought him some boost plus and carnation

instant breakfast yesterday, so we'll give those a try and see if they help

any. Neither of my offspring have ever been large, nor do I expect them to

be considering I'm 5'7 " and even when I reached full term with Emma, I

barely touched 140 pounds. My husband ('s father) is 5'11 " and only

since was born has he gone over 135 pounds. So we're not going to have

big bulky kids. Emma was a pipsqueak until the last 2 or 3 years. So

's going to be small. I just really think he's much much TOO thin.

Turn those little african kids on tv white, and give 'em blond hair, and

that's my son - LoL. I will keep in mind the x-ray thing. Thanks, Kat!

Ami

Re: Newbie

>

> I would ask the doctor to do a simple x-ray of the wrist to determine

> the bone age of the child and not the genetic age.

> I have a 7 year old boy who just finally passed the 40 lb mark..problem

> is he is healthy and eats all the time. He has been through tests after

> tests to come to the conclusion that he has growth delay which is

> hereditary. I do know that hypo will also cause growth delay because of

> the slower metabolism and should correct itself with thyroid hormones

> but they can take an x-ray of the left wrist and tell you how old his

> bones and body is and his wieght might actually be fine for his bone

> age and actually be less of a worry.

> My boy is 5 % on the charts for hieght and 5 % below the charts for

> wieght..but he is monitored on his own line and is actually 25%-30 % on

> both charts for his bone age which makes things at least easier on the

> stress levels.

April 11, 2005

In a message dated 4/11/2005 2:00:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, The_Thyroid_Support_Group writes:

Re: Newbie

It may be possible that he is just going to be very thin. I have 2 children that way, very thin, can see all their ribs, bottom of the charts, etc. But my husband is very thin and so was I (until this thyroid thing started!). I was worried because my daughter tends to be the smallest in her group, etc. She is turning 10 this month and is 65 pounds. But she eats alot, just like her dad. It doesn't hurt to do some tests, but realize it may be quite normal. Good luck,

BarbC

April 11, 2005

Yep, and I do understand that. As I said, I'm only 111 and 5'7". Just want to make sure there's nothing more going on.

Ami

-- Re: Newbie

In a message dated 4/11/2005 2:00:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, The_Thyroid_Support_Group writes:

Re: Newbie

It may be possible that he is just going to be very thin. I have 2 children that way, very thin, can see all their ribs, bottom of the charts, etc. But my husband is very thin and so was I (until this thyroid thing started!). I was worried because my daughter tends to be the smallest in her group, etc. She is turning 10 this month and is 65 pounds. But she eats alot, just like her dad. It doesn't hurt to do some tests, but realize it may be quite normal. Good luck,

BarbC

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February 8, 2008

Welcome Tabi so nice to have you with us. Eva

Hey all, my name is Tabi. I am 33 years old and have had problems regarding food since I was 12 years old. I am trying to learn to "eat right" for myself, but it is difficult hence my reason for joining.

Tabi Dougherty, CMT

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February 8, 2008

Welcome, Tabi. You've certainly come to the right place. This is the most supportive, helpful group one could imagine. I'm not much more than a newbie myself, and I'm simply amazed at the help, suggestions, laughter and wisdom I've been offered by the group. I'm sure you'll find the support you need here.

Beckett

Hey all, my name is Tabi. I am 33 years old and have had problems regarding food since I was 12 years old. I am trying to learn to "eat right" for myself, but it is difficult hence my reason for joining.

Tabi Dougherty, CMT

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February 8, 2008

Welcome! This is a great place to learn, get ideas and huge support. Feel free to share, ask questions, or just enjoy reading all the wonderful posts.

--Alana

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Hey all, my name is Tabi. I am 33 years old and have had problems regarding food since I was 12 years old. I am trying to learn to "eat right" for myself, but it is difficult hence my reason for joining.

Tabi Dougherty, CMT

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February 8, 2008

Welcome Tabi! I hope you find this group as helpful and supportive as

I have. Lots of good thinking here and others who are making positive

(albeit challenging!) changes in their lives. " Eat right " for me is

let my body direct me in its needs. Funny how one needs to re-learn

such a thing, but the good news is its possible!! Glad to have you

join us here. Jump right in and let us know what you are experiencing

- bet you find many others here are in the same boat!

Best to you, Katcha

>

> Hey all, my name is Tabi. I am 33 years old and have had problems

regarding

> food since I was 12 years old. I am trying to learn to " eat right " for

> myself, but it is difficult hence my reason for joining.

>

> Tabi Dougherty, CMT

> <)))><

>

February 8, 2008

Hi Tabi,

Thanks for joining and welcome! You'll love this group. You may consider reframing your desire to eat right and maybe think about eating to honor your body or eating to nourish yourself? Just an idea, it's all very subtle, but often the idea of "eating right" leads to thoughts of good or bad foods and the whole diet mentality. I just thought I'd bring that up since what we say to ourselves is a very big part of how we behave, including around food.

I'm glad you're here, let us know how we can help! I take it you are a massage therapist? I am always amazed by the work you guys do, it's hard work and so needed!

Thanks!GillianGillian Hood-son, MS, ACSMHealthier OutcomesIt's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, "6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating" by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com

From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of Tabi Dougherty, CMTSent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:37 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: newbie

Hey all, my name is Tabi. I am 33 years old and have had problems regarding food since I was 12 years old. I am trying to learn to "eat right" for myself, but it is difficult hence my reason for joining.

Tabi Dougherty, CMT

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April 14, 2008

that was the hardest part fr me to figure out but when I finally did it comes for me as a growl or a slight pain in my stomach not anything that hurts to much jst something that tells me Hey I'm hungry but as you will see posted in the group often the signals are different for everyone and it takes time to figure your signals out. I tend to eat out of habbit or boredem or when I am too tired as well. You just have to try and become more awareand that takes time so don't rush it and learn to enjoy food again. Eva

Hi,I am a 39 year old mom of three ..2 girls and a boy and I just now reading the book and I love it. I was watching this other guy about making you thin on tv and thought, I like his ideas, but I don't want to be hypnotized LOL I think I have known about this type of eating and just never really DID it. I can feel myself sometimes just wolfing down food without paying one bit of attention. But now that I am about to hit the big 4-0 and having went through a bout of Thyroid Cancer, I see the importance of taking care of ME too, not just my family and the other things going on around me. Ok, having written a novel to everyone about my life...I have a question for those of you who have done this a while. How do you know when it is really hunger, and not just your desire to eat? I feel like I eat when I am bored more than anything at all...do you feel like that happens to you? Or out of habit? Did any of you start eating at the dinner table now instead of in front of the TV? I can't wait to hear what everyone has to say, this seems like an interesting group!Hugs------------------------------------

April 17, 2008

Hi !

Thanks so much for joining and for

introducing yourself. I’m glad you found us after learning a bit about

the non-diet approach, and I must agree with you, hypnosis is not my thing! I

like to be fully aware of what choices I am making. J

Congratulations on getting through your

cancer treatment and for not only seeing the value of taking care of yourself,

but ACTING on it. I wish more women could see how important this is. It will

really support you throughout this journey.

Your concerns about identifying true

hunger vs. “head” hunger are common and I think most of us have

experienced it. The most important thing you can do is stay aware and when you

want to eat, ask yourself if you are hungry. Now you may not always get an

answer or you may not be able to tell. But the more you do this, it will come. If

you suspect you aren’t physically hungry, you may want to see if you can

identify what else is going on, something emotional, stressful, boredom, etc.

Over time it gets easier to determine physical vs. a non-hunger urge to eat.

Keep posting, ask questions, share your

experiences, and you’ll get a lot of help and guidance.

Thanks!

Gillian

Hood-son, MS, ACSM

Healthier Outcomes

Get your copy of " 6 Simple Steps

to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com

From: IntuitiveEating_Support

[mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:34

PM

To:

IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject:

Newbie

Hi,

I am a 39 year old mom of three ..2 girls and a boy and I just now

reading the book and I love it. I was watching this other guy about

making you thin on tv and thought, I like his ideas, but I don't want to

be hypnotized LOL I think I have known about this type of eating and

just never really DID it. I can feel myself sometimes just wolfing down

food without paying one bit of attention. But now that I am about to

hit the big 4-0 and having went through a bout of Thyroid Cancer, I see

the importance of taking care of ME too, not just my family and the

other things going on around me.

Ok, having written a novel to everyone about my life...I have a question

for those of you who have done this a while. How do you know when it

is really hunger, and not just your desire to eat? I feel like I eat

when I am bored more than anything at all...do you feel like that

happens to you? Or out of habit? Did any of you start eating at the

dinner table now instead of in front of the TV?

I can't wait to hear what everyone has to say, this seems like an

interesting group!

Hugs,___

April 17, 2008