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Sandy, I cannot say any single supplement helped me the most. Many supplements in fact made me feel sicker. I had to be very selective. I think minerals are very important (especially magnesium). I think probiotics are very important (for digestive health). Anti-oxidants such as milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid and n-acetyl-cystine were also important. (to fight the chemicals and free radicals and support liver function). I think Vitamin C is really important for the adrenals and it must be taken at optimum doses--several thousand milligrams (i.e., several grams) daily. I think Essential Fatty Acids are also very important, such as fish oil, cod liver oil, and evening primrose oil. These help to modulate inflammation, and should be taken to offset the imbalance in fats we have in our diet. I have no idea

what Epicor is, so I can't comment on that. But if you concentrate on some of the above, I think it will be helpful. Patty Sandy <dusty.com@...> wrote: I have a question for those ladies who have regained most of their health back I understand it takes detoxing and

supplements but... What supplement helped you out the most and why ? Before I place an order for Inositol 500 mg Do I need EpiCor ? Thanks, Sandy Inositol 500 mg two pills 3 times a day. (Helps the body to eliminate silicate)Natural Source; Beans, lentils, nuts, oats, rice, wheat germ, cantaloupe, citrus (except lemon), whole grain http://www.plastikos.com/siliconpt.html You can buy Inositol in powder form for economy, or pill form at any health food store and on the internet. Here's one brand I have used: http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=513 & at=0 Patty .

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Hi Sandy,

I haven't regained my health entirely, but have definitely improved

enough to where I see the light at the end of the tunnel.

As far as Epicor is concerned, I'm just not sure. I took it for only

a month. Dr. Kolb recommends it to prevent yeast from turning into a

more virulent form and then into cancer. She said to take it the rest

of my life and I should listen. Yet, when I was muscle tested with

the product in my hands, the chiropractor said I shouldn't use it. It

is fermented yeast so that's why I hesitate, but honestly, everything

else Dr. Kolb has recommended has seemed to work great.

As for the supplements that have helped me most (in order of

importance for me):

* Primal Defense Probiotics

* Enzymedica Digestive Enzymes

* Caprylic Acid to kill the yeast. This has by far helped me the

most. 3600 mg per day for two weeks.

* Premier Science Tyler Recancostat Glutithione Powder mixed with

Naturally Buffered Vitamin C and water and taken w/ 1000 mg of Alpha

Lipoic Acid

* Garden of Life Goatein Powder mixed with coconut milk and Garden

of Life Super Seed - contains several vitamins and amino acids. Very

easy to digest and makes a great breakfast.

* Gillham's Liquid Organic Life Vitamins - a wonderful

multivitamin w/ Noni Juice in it.

* Gillham's Cell Rejuvenator - contains MSM.

* Standard Process Prolamine Iodine - organic iodine which is a

great antifungal/antiviral and helps with thyroid issues

* Butyren - helps repair intestinal lining/Leaky Gut issues

* Corvalen - for cell energy and muscle pain relief

I am going to add NAC based on what I've read and what Patty has said

as well. Just remember that your body may have different needs and so

you have to experiment. And, don't get into the trap of thinking that

a supplement will cure everything. I went through a period of time

thinking I could stray from a good diet if I just popped a pill.

Honestly, I think the greatest effects come from diet and I want to

eventually wean off some of these supplements.

Also, I don't know if you have an ionic foot bath but that has seemed

to help me immensely. - PH

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What's NAC???

- (Atlanta)

On 9/1/07, perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...> wrote:

Hi Sandy,I haven't regained my health entirely, but have definitely improvedenough to where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. As far as Epicor is concerned, I'm just not sure. I took it for only

a month. Dr. Kolb recommends it to prevent yeast from turning into amore virulent form and then into cancer. She said to take it the restof my life and I should listen. Yet, when I was muscle tested withthe product in my hands, the chiropractor said I shouldn't use it. It

is fermented yeast so that's why I hesitate, but honestly, everythingelse Dr. Kolb has recommended has seemed to work great.As for the supplements that have helped me most (in order ofimportance for me): * Primal Defense Probiotics* Enzymedica Digestive Enzymes* Caprylic Acid to kill the yeast. This has by far helped me themost. 3600 mg per day for two weeks.* Premier Science Tyler Recancostat Glutithione Powder mixed with

Naturally Buffered Vitamin C and water and taken w/ 1000 mg of AlphaLipoic Acid* Garden of Life Goatein Powder mixed with coconut milk and Gardenof Life Super Seed - contains several vitamins and amino acids. Very

easy to digest and makes a great breakfast.* Gillham's Liquid Organic Life Vitamins - a wonderfulmultivitamin w/ Noni Juice in it.* Gillham's Cell Rejuvenator - contains MSM. * Standard Process Prolamine Iodine - organic iodine which is a

great antifungal/antiviral and helps with thyroid issues* Butyren - helps repair intestinal lining/Leaky Gut issues* Corvalen - for cell energy and muscle pain reliefI am going to add NAC based on what I've read and what Patty has said

as well. Just remember that your body may have different needs and soyou have to experiment. And, don't get into the trap of thinking thata supplement will cure everything. I went through a period of time

thinking I could stray from a good diet if I just popped a pill. Honestly, I think the greatest effects come from diet and I want toeventually wean off some of these supplements. Also, I don't know if you have an ionic foot bath but that has seemed

to help me immensely. - PH> >> >> >> >> > I have a question for those ladies who have> > regained most of their health back.

> >> > I understand it takes detoxing and supplements but...> > What supplement helped you out the most and why ?> >> > Before I place an order for Inositol 500 mg> > Do I need EpiCor ?

> >> > Thanks, Sandy> >> >> > Inositol 500 mg two pills 3 times a day. (Helps the body to eliminate> silicate)Natural Source; Beans, lentils, nuts, oats, rice, wheat germ,

> cantaloupe, citrus (except lemon), whole grain> > http://www.plastikos.com/siliconpt.html

> >> > You can buy Inositol in powder form for economy, or pill form at any> health food store and on the internet. Here's one brand I have used:> >

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=513 & at=0> >> > Patty> >> >> > .> >> >> >> > .> >>

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N-acetyl-cystine....it is a precursor to glutathione, which is a very potent and much needed anti-oxidant. You definitely don't want to deplete your glutathione reserves! Patty Hackett <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: What's NAC??? - (Atlanta) On 9/1/07, perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68 > wrote: Hi Sandy,I haven't regained my health entirely, but have definitely improvedenough to where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. As far as Epicor is concerned, I'm just not sure. I took it for only a month. Dr. Kolb recommends it to prevent yeast from turning into amore virulent form and then into cancer. She said to take it the restof my life and I should listen. Yet, when I was muscle tested withthe product in my hands, the chiropractor said I shouldn't use it. It is fermented yeast so that's why I hesitate, but honestly, everythingelse Dr. Kolb has recommended has seemed to work great.As for the supplements that have helped me most (in order ofimportance for me): * Primal Defense Probiotics* Enzymedica Digestive Enzymes* Caprylic Acid to kill the yeast. This has by far helped

me themost. 3600 mg per day for two weeks.* Premier Science Tyler Recancostat Glutithione Powder mixed with Naturally Buffered Vitamin C and water and taken w/ 1000 mg of AlphaLipoic Acid* Garden of Life Goatein Powder mixed with coconut milk and Gardenof Life Super Seed - contains several vitamins and amino acids. Very easy to digest and makes a great breakfast.* Gillham's Liquid Organic Life Vitamins - a wonderfulmultivitamin w/ Noni Juice in it.* Gillham's Cell Rejuvenator - contains MSM. * Standard Process Prolamine Iodine - organic iodine which is a great antifungal/antiviral and helps with thyroid issues* Butyren - helps repair intestinal lining/Leaky Gut issues* Corvalen - for cell energy and muscle pain reliefI am going to add NAC based on what I've read and what Patty has said as well. Just remember that your body may have different needs and soyou have to experiment. And,

don't get into the trap of thinking thata supplement will cure everything. I went through a period of timethinking I could stray from a good diet if I just popped a pill. Honestly, I think the greatest effects come from diet and I want toeventually wean off some of these supplements. Also, I don't know if you have an ionic foot bath but that has seemed to help me immensely. - PH> >> >> >> >> > I have a question for those ladies who have> > regained most of their health back. > >>

> I understand it takes detoxing and supplements but...> > What supplement helped you out the most and why ?> >> > Before I place an order for Inositol 500 mg> > Do I need EpiCor ? > >> > Thanks, Sandy> >> >> > Inositol 500 mg two pills 3 times a day. (Helps the body to eliminate> silicate)Natural Source; Beans, lentils, nuts, oats, rice, wheat germ, > cantaloupe, citrus (except lemon), whole grain> > http://www.plastikos.com/siliconpt.html > >> > You can buy Inositol in powder form for economy, or pill form at any> health food store and on the internet. Here's one brand I have used:> > http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=513 & at=0> >> > Patty> >> >> > .> >> >> >> > .> >>

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Thanks! Is this something I should look in to for healing?

Do you know if it's safe for use during pregnancy???

THANKS Patty!

On 9/2/07, Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

N-acetyl-cystine....it is a precursor to glutathione, which is a very potent and much needed anti-oxidant. You definitely don't want to deplete your glutathione reserves!

Patty Hackett <resultsbyrachelgmail>

wrote:

What's NAC???

- (Atlanta)

On 9/1/07, perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...

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Hi Sandy,I haven't regained my health entirely, but have definitely improvedenough to where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. As far as Epicor is concerned, I'm just not sure. I took it for only a month. Dr. Kolb recommends it to prevent yeast from turning into amore virulent form and then into cancer. She said to take it the restof my life and I should listen. Yet, when I was muscle tested withthe product in my hands, the chiropractor said I shouldn't use it. It is fermented yeast so that's why I hesitate, but honestly, everythingelse Dr. Kolb has recommended has seemed to work great.As for the supplements that have helped me most (in order ofimportance for me): * Primal Defense Probiotics* Enzymedica Digestive Enzymes* Caprylic Acid to kill the yeast. This has by far helped me themost. 3600 mg per day for two weeks.* Premier Science Tyler Recancostat Glutithione Powder mixed with Naturally Buffered Vitamin C and water and taken w/ 1000 mg of AlphaLipoic Acid* Garden of Life Goatein Powder mixed with coconut milk and Gardenof Life Super Seed - contains several vitamins and amino acids. Very easy to digest and makes a great breakfast.* Gillham's Liquid Organic Life Vitamins - a wonderfulmultivitamin w/ Noni Juice in it.* Gillham's Cell Rejuvenator - contains MSM. * Standard Process Prolamine Iodine - organic iodine which is a great antifungal/antiviral and helps with thyroid issues* Butyren - helps repair intestinal lining/Leaky Gut issues* Corvalen - for cell energy and muscle pain reliefI am going to add NAC based on what I've read and what Patty has said as well. Just remember that your body may have different needs and soyou have to experiment. And, don't get into the trap of thinking thata supplement will cure everything. I went through a period of time

thinking I could stray from a good diet if I just popped a pill. Honestly, I think the greatest effects come from diet and I want toeventually wean off some of these supplements. Also, I don't know if you have an ionic foot bath but that has seemed to help me immensely. - PH> >> >> >> >> > I have a question for those ladies who have> > regained most of their health back. > >> > I understand it takes detoxing and supplements but...> > What supplement helped you out the most and why ?> >> > Before I place an order for Inositol 500 mg> > Do I need EpiCor ? > >> > Thanks, Sandy> >> >> > Inositol 500 mg two pills 3 times a day. (Helps the body to eliminate> silicate)Natural Source; Beans, lentils, nuts, oats, rice, wheat germ, > cantaloupe, citrus (except lemon), whole grain> > http://www.plastikos.com/siliconpt.html > >> > You can buy Inositol in powder form for economy, or pill form at any> health food store and on the internet. Here's one brand I have used:> >

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=513 & at=0> >> > Patty> >> >> > .> >> >> >> > .> >>

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Sandy ~

Girl it sounds like you are making

progress now. I am sure the weight

gain had lots to do with your pain.

I know for me, it is very debilitating.

I never weighed more than about 120

but usually around 110, and this 177

crap is killing me. It is heavy and hard

on my bones and joints. Boy I tell ya

if when I weighed 110, and I had to wear a

big heavy 65 lb vest around all the time

it would have been just like it is now.......

think about it....yuk ! bad for the bod !

Hugs, and I am so happy to hear of

your progress. Wonderful!

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Sandy, Hopefully you are getting some whole grains and coconut oil. You can spread coconut oil on whole grain bread just like you would butter. . . Rubin recommends several tablespoons of oil a day. . . The fiber from whole grains will help with regularity . .. oil is necessary for numerous body functions. It won't make you gain weight! . . . Hugs, Rogene

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Dede, Sixty-five pound vest? . . . Were you in the military? I can't imagine carrying that much extra weight around all day! PAIN! Rogene

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Rogene ~

No, I am carrying around 65 lbs that I put on

in a year ! I weighed 110-120 summer before last

now 177....and it is all in the trunk area, boobs,

gut and butt, actually I am round so one big body.

I never been fat a day in my life. Til this heart blew

I weighed 133 the day I went in to deliver my son ! !

So, yes, this is like wearing a 65 lb vest ! ! and very

hard on me.......I have carried it around about a year

and a half now.

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Bless you Dede, You're the Eveready bunny that take a lickin' and just keeps on tickin' . . . I know you're going to get through this . . . but when? Yesterday isn't soon enough. Hugs and prayers, Rogene

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Thank you Sandy, I can't remember talking about potassium... But I hope you feel better! Patty Sandy <dusty.com@...> wrote: Patty suggested potassium Hopefully I corrected this statement I am sorry to everyone here in this

forum That is not how I intended my statemen . The question mark was a mistake on my part When I noticed I re-sent it again right away. Geesh I still messed it up by how I worded it Please, Please forgive me. Please know I am fatally poisoned throughout my system My thinking and memory is not always on board like it use to be Honestly all you ladies have helped educate me and as we all know everything we do is by trial and error. Suggestions should always be open I am so sorry about that Patty Please

forgive me, Sandy~ Ladies, Truly, I cannot make anyone take anything...and I do not wish to be considered a medical advisor of any kind. I consider myself only a person to disseminate information that I've found useful or interesting, or my testimony. I share information that I think is helpful, based on my experiences. The information I try to share comes from sources that I hope are credible, and of course, from my own personal experience. The choices are up to you, and I encourage everyone to do only what they are comfortable with after investigating for themselves. Please understand that. I may suggest things but please do not consider me to be

giving out personal advise on treatments! I only share what I myself have done to get better. I just wanted to make that clear! PattyTricia Trish <glory2glory1401 > wrote: I'm confused...."Patty has me on potassium" ???? What does that mean? PattySandy <dusty.comcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Sandy ~ There are lots of side effects, but

for right now, you need that medication. Are you sure ??? My doctors out here will leave me for dead They do not believe my implants poisoned my body Where do they get thier license is what I want to know ???? Dumb Idiots !!! Did they tell you to restrict your salt and fluid intake? Not At All Dede Do they have you on potassium? Patty has me on potassium? I am fasting everything for now because I'm getting bloodwork

today I would run it by Dr Kolb. I did this morning My father takes the lisinopril and HCTZ with no problem. I had problems with the diuretics since my sodium pump isnt working properly. What has your blood pressure and pulse been running? Doctor said only a little high and I had no heart

meds in me I am still not moving my bowels often enough I wonder if I really have Candida or if it's my digestive system off track from bowel syndrome. I believe I'm in overdrive with this poisonous crap in my entire system It's a wonder I am still alive and kicking!!! We are gonna win this fight ! I will research that other one some more and get back to you Shhhh... I only take a heart med when my heart goes off course from this poison Two Ways Poisoning... !!!! Improper

explant through armpits All the garbage leaked through my body Bowel syndrome: 1999 - 2007 No wonder my heart skips a beat !!! Thank you for caring. Sandy .

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P.S. Sandy, I should have mentioned that this was in Sept and October of

2005 that my root canals were placed. I had the root canals removed

in May 2006. It's been two years since removal and so I know that it

was connected because I have not had anything like it since.

Patty

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> > I have to many top teeth missing and a partial would not work.

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> > If an implant in my mouth would take or not.

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> > I have a few root canals, when did your knee pain start ??

> > My knee pain started after getting saline implants.

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> > My knees after implants left me partially crippled.

> > The Million Dollar Question ??

> > How did you connect your knee pain with your teeth ?

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