Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 Hi Red, I had migraines every month, right at the end of my period when I was in my early 40's. They only lasted a day, but I always ended up nauseated and had to leave work. Since they were so clearly related to estrogen, my doctor put me on Premarin. This worked, and the migraines went away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 Hi , I think it has more to do with how it's balanced with progesterone, especially considering how Premarin managed to obliterate my headaches. Or it may have to do with the sudden plunge in estrogen. Oddly enough, most people I've talked to about this say that their migraines were at the start of their period when estrogen is higher while mine were always at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 I had migranes for 2 years straight - cluster headaches. I dropped out of college they were so bad. They put me on lithium and 6 months later I had full blown GD. Lucky me! LOL Anyway - after getting off the tapazole I've been doing great. They put me on the pill and I dont ever take a break for my period - seems to have stopped my daily headaches. amy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 My mom told me her migraines stopped after menopause. Didn't think to mention that before. She had them once in a while. Should have mentioned that before. Once my GD was under control I only seem to get them during my period and ovulation. Debbie R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 The estrogen and progesterone wouldn't be the cause of migraines in children though...would it? Especially male children? Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 I was wondering about the estrogen connection too. I thought it was a given fact that estrogen is a contributor to migraines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 Hi all, To everyone still suffering, I have found something that dramatically -- I mean either erases the migraine altogether or eases it into a tiny teeny headahce--helps my migraines (which I rarely get anymore). Take a small amount of umeboshi paste on a spoon. Umeboshi paste is japanese pickled plum, very very sour. The paste is thick so it won't fall off the spoon. Hold the spoon upside down and let the paste simply sit on top of your tongue for as long as you can tolerate, hopefully about 30 seconds. Don't swallow any, you'll feel the impact just with the paste on your tongue. Repeat in 15 minutes if necessary. I read this in AnneMarie Colbin's Food and Healing. It is nothing short of miraculous. You can buy the paste in Japanese stores, coops, etc, I found it easily. It's expensive (I paid $7. for a tiny tiny jar), but one small jar will last forever. I just had a neighbor do this after a two day headache, and she called a couple of hours later to say that it was gone completely. She couldn't believe it. B Re: Migraine Headaches > Hi Red, > I had migraines every month, right at the end of my period when I was in my > early 40's. They only lasted a day, but I always ended up nauseated and had > to leave work. Since they were so clearly related to estrogen, my doctor put > me on Premarin. This worked, and the migraines went away. > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 Oh, I do wish it becomes so! I have always, always had a strong migraine with my period; now I'm going into menopause and the hormonal swings have wreaked havoc on my system, with sometimes cluster headaches that last a month or more. I have harbored the hope that when the final period has passed, and things " settle down " , the headaches will be gone too. But, Mom had them all her life, so I'm not sure it's true! Terry > From: redhengirl@... > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:58:33 EST > To: graves_support > Subject: Migraine Headaches > > Surprisingly, as I am not hearing the same from the rest of you, I have > stopped having migraines in my old age. It's been over twenty years since my > hysterectomy. I wonder if the estrogen connection has been severed and that > is why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 Thanks , I will look for some, but in my area of the woods have no idea where to start. Going to put into search on my computer. Debbie R. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 My migraines came much less often after my hysterectomy. I am on Premarin for years now and I may get 1 or 2 migraines a year. That was how my high blood pressure was diagnosed. A few years ago I went to the ER with the worst migraine headache and my blood pressure was 210/120 ! I have been on ace inhibitors ever since. I always get daily headaches for most of my life but not migraines. Since I have been put on Beta Blockers for the GD symptoms I no longer get headaches at all. I have a question> Is it important to avoid Iodine with GD or does it matter? Thanks, Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 Hi Laurie- Yes, it is important to avoid iodine if you're hyperthyroid. Iodine is used to make thyroid hormone. Take care, Re: Migraine Headaches > My migraines came much less often after my hysterectomy. I am on Premarin for > years now and I may get 1 or 2 migraines a year. That was how my high blood > pressure was diagnosed. A few years ago I went to the ER with the worst > migraine headache and my blood pressure was 210/120 ! I have been on ace > inhibitors ever since. I always get daily headaches for most of my life but > not migraines. Since I have been put on Beta Blockers for the GD symptoms I > no longer get headaches at all. > I have a question> Is it important to avoid Iodine with GD or does it matter? > Thanks, Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 My doctor said it was okay to eat anything I wanted to eat. I went out for scallops and by the time I got to the car my heart was racing and skipping beats. I went straight home and my heart rate was 130. This hasn't happened since I went on the Toprol XL, 200 mgs a day. I thought there may be a connection but wasn't sure. Thanks, Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Hi Jody, Males have these hormones too, and levels fluctuate during puberty so it's possible. One male I know who had them was tested for estrogen and his level is elevated. He's now on a testosterone patch to balance things. There are many different things that cause migraines though and it seems that food allergies are near the top of most lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Janis, thanks for the great information. Hope sees this so she can share it with her doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Hi Jody, He's probably too young if you mean estrogen levels. If he was in puberty, hormone problems would be more of a possibility. There are so many other causes for headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Hi Elaine, there are so many endocrine disruptors around now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 I've been reading all the responses along with your comments and thought I'd share my situation and experience hoping it might help. I was suffering what I thought was vision problems, lost letters in words, reverse swiss cheese vision (some areas blocked in my site the wholes in the swiss cheese being the solid spots) so I'd go to sleep to avoid " seeing " . Long story short...I was afraid it was Graves, so my endo sent me to a ophthomologist that specializes in Thyroid diseases. She ran all types of tests and along with my history the diagnosis was Occipital Migraines. I did not have headaches due to taking Atenolol, a beta blocker taken for high blood pressure which is also prescribed to prevent Migraines. Recommendation was to change to a natural estrogen, such as Premarin in a low dosage and take 1 aspirin a day. The aspirin prevents excess Seratonin in the brain from being released due to taking estrogen,-hence no occipital migraines. It seems to work! > I might as well chime in here too and add myself to the list of migraine > sufferers. For most of my younger days I got true migraine headaches with > all the trimmings, nausea and vomiting, extreme pain, sensitivity to light... > > Surprisingly, as I am not hearing the same from the rest of you, I have > stopped having migraines in my old age. It's been over twenty years since my > hysterectomy. I wonder if the estrogen connection has been severed and that > is why? > > By the way, we do have a family history of migraine and also of thyroid > disease and diabetes. My brother still suffers with severe migraines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Elaine, Would testing an 8 year old male for the hormones be a suggestion to make to my sister...or is he just to young? Thanks, Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Hi Elaine, remember the tape about the increase in endocrine disrutors and male feminization and genital abnormalities and low sperm counts. Do you think that could lead to more male auto immune problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Hi Janis, So, you do not have GD? How long have you been on the aspirin a day with premarin? My daughter is 30, do you think that would be an appropriate thing for her to try? > > I might as well chime in here too and add myself to the list of > migraine > > sufferers. For most of my younger days I got true migraine > headaches with > > all the trimmings, nausea and vomiting, extreme pain, sensitivity > to light... > > > > Surprisingly, as I am not hearing the same from the rest of you, I > have > > stopped having migraines in my old age. It's been over twenty > years since my > > hysterectomy. I wonder if the estrogen connection has been severed > and that > > is why? > > > > By the way, we do have a family history of migraine and also of > thyroid > > disease and diabetes. My brother still suffers with severe > migraines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Hi , yes, it was a great tape. I imagine that with the increased estrogen levels caused by endocrine disruptors, exposed males would be more at risk. And studies show that the rate of autoimmune disease in men is rising, especially now that there are more diagnostic tests and the life span has increased. Endocrine disruptors are also responsible for many behavioral changes in animals...people haven't been studied yet. For instance, female birds exposed to hormonal disruptors tended to lose their maternal instincts. The researchers described it as akin to apathy. In light of all the violence in society today, I wonder about this endocrine disruptor connection a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Yes, I have Graves. I was diagnosed in 94, did PTU for about 1 1/2 years, didn't like all the possible abrupt side effects that can occur or long term effects I'd read about. I found another doctor and I went off it with the idea of doing RAI. Fortunately what was left of my goiter disappeared in a short time and I've stayed normal thryoid ever since. I'm one of the lucky ones that so far hasn't become hyperthyroid again. But when my eyes started having that weird stuff happening my first thought was I was getting the thyroid eye disease. That is why he sent me to a opthomologist specializing in thyroid, and it was determined I was having the occipital migraines. If you're asking if an aspirin a day would hurt your 30 year old daughter? I'd think it'd be worth a try and it wouldn't hurt. A lot of doctors recommend that to people all the time for various reasons. > Hi Janis, > So, you do not have GD? How long have you been on the aspirin a > day with premarin? My daughter is 30, do you think that would be an > appropriate thing for her to try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 I get a newsletter and a link there took me to this article by Elaine : The Origin of Migraines and Periodic Paralysis in Graves' Disease http://www.themestream.com/gspd_browse/browse/view_article.gsp? c_id=403663 & id_list=376780,387463,399209,403663 & newsletter=2 Just thought I'd share, though I don't comprehend everything in the article! LOL Janis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 I meant to write about this before about hormone disruptors. I think I've posted before about it but it was a while ago. Male animals as diverse as seals, seagulls and frogs are sometimes exhibiting female type postures when they're sexually stimulated. This is around the Mediterranean which has been contaminated with PCBs. Well, one PCB is an estrogen mimic. All males and females have ratios of estrogen to testosterone. This estrogen mimic is attaching to estrogen cell receptors which is probably causing these males to exhibit female-type behavior (their cells " think " their estrogen:testosterone ratio is too high). The one thing they have in common even though frogs are pretty primitive is that they are all vertebrates. Estrogen is highly conserved meaning that it has stayed pretty much the same over the course of evolution. Seals are much more closely related to humans (both are mammals) than seals are to frogs. To think this can't be impacting humans also is ridiculous. Yet it's now politically incorrect to address this. OK. Got my two-cents in. Take care, Re: Migraine Headaches > Hi , > yes, it was a great tape. I imagine that with the increased estrogen levels > caused by endocrine disruptors, exposed males would be more at risk. And > studies show that the rate of autoimmune disease in men is rising, especially > now that there are more diagnostic tests and the life span has increased. > Endocrine disruptors are also responsible for many behavioral changes in > animals...people haven't been studied yet. For instance, female birds exposed > to hormonal disruptors tended to lose their maternal instincts. The > researchers described it as akin to apathy. In light of all the violence in > society today, I wonder about this endocrine disruptor connection a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 , I'm lost...the point is very very interesting, but why is it politically incorrect to address this issue? Thanks, Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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