Re: What the Hell is a Grand Sponsor?

March 8, 2000

Arroyo wrote:

> Serenity my A$$.

======================

What's the last thing to go through a bug's mind when he hits the

windshield?

April 5, 2000

At 12:08 05/04/00 -0500, you wrote:

>Does anyone know what in god's creation is a grand sponsor?

>

>Recently while seething in a Room someone mentioned that Clancy was

>their grand sponsor. So I'm sitting there thinking to myself he

>can't possibly be referring to his sponsor's sponsor. Can he?

Yes, that is what it means.

>And if this is how he meant it. How sick is that?

Fairly sick. It is all about hierarchies and lineages, which are not in

themselves bad things in some situations but in an " anonymous " and

" spiritual " context it is a bit odd. I actually used to think like that

myself though. One of the functions it serves is to assist people with a

poor self-concept and it tells them that they " are somebody " because of who

they are connected to, or, dare I say it- " descended from " ! I eventually

realised, somewhat belatedly, that the people I thought were " somebody "

were really not that special.

Joe B.

April 5, 2000

At 13:02 08/03/00 -0500, you wrote:

> > Serenity my A$$.

>======================

>What's the last thing to go through a bug's mind when he hits the

>windshield?

" Damm, I knew I should have called my sponsor before I decided to go flying

near the freeway... " ?

Joe B.

April 5, 2000

My definition of a " grand sponsor " is an attractive member of the

opposite sex who volunteers to help you work the 13th Step.

April 5, 2000

You got it. Sponsor's sponsor. ... and I've seen it where they are

called Grand Babies in reverse.

But it's even more than bio parentage, as the sponsor often asks His

sponsor what to do with the grand baby. The Grand Sponsor, in some

situations, is actually pulling the strings on a person's life from a

distance; with clancy this is very liekly, and I'm sure he even has

Great Grand babies.

Hey guys, If the world only knew!!! If the world out there only knew

what went on in AA, it would wake up and go ... WhAAAAAAt! Time to

put a lid on this crap.

Also, sometimes it's seen as being presumptuous to talk Directly to

your grand sponsor, (your not spiritual enough) and at picnics I've

heard people talk about a whole gathering formed around a

sponsor " All her babies were there and my babies and even grand

babies ... "

These generatione tend to sit next to each other and hang together,

even though some grand babies may be much older than the baby. Talk

about crazy.

-G. Price

> Does anyone know what in god's creation is a grand sponsor?

>

> Recently while seething in a Room someone mentioned that Clancy was

> their grand sponsor. So I'm sitting there thinking to myself he

> can't possibly be referring to his sponsor's sponsor. Can he?

>

> And if this is how he meant it. How sick is that?

>

> Just more proof of the hierarchy within the rooms. Culling favor

and

> increasing ones own status by dropping names.

>

> Hmmm. Perhaps this is why so many people move from the door

> knob/group higher power to the Xtian " God " as a higher power so

> quickly.

>

> And

>

> Isn't that sort of like taking God's name in vain for a popularity

> pay off? Hell they're not even true to the concepts of their own

> religion.

>

> Serenity my A$$.

>

> Don't know what came over me just now. But what the hey I'll send

it

> on along anyway.

April 6, 2000

That phrase make s me want to cringe and boak ever so slightly .What

a sad and desperate imitation of healthy life.

> Does anyone know what in god's creation is a grand sponsor?

>

> Recently while seething in a Room someone mentioned that Clancy was

> their grand sponsor. So I'm sitting there thinking to myself he

> can't possibly be referring to his sponsor's sponsor. Can he?

>

> And if this is how he meant it. How sick is that?

>

> Just more proof of the hierarchy within the rooms. Culling favor

and

> increasing ones own status by dropping names.

>

> Hmmm. Perhaps this is why so many people move from the door

> knob/group higher power to the Xtian " God " as a higher power so

> quickly.

>

> And

>

> Isn't that sort of like taking God's name in vain for a popularity

> pay off? Hell they're not even true to the concepts of their own

> religion.

>

> Serenity my A$$.

>

> Don't know what came over me just now. But what the hey I'll send

it

> on along anyway.

April 6, 2000

Where I went to college, the fraternities & sororities did the same thing -

instead of sponsor/sponsee, it was Big/Little/GrandBig/GrandLittle, etc,

etc.