Re: Antidepressant - Prescription or Alternative

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PH ~

Bless your heart ! I understand your feelings. It is so hard to pretend all the time, and trying to hide it from kids must really be hard, at least mine are out of the house.......I know that you can try anti-depressants short term and they can sure help out when needed. I have not personally taken one that helped, but I know a few people that have. I can tell that right now is very tough for you, I am so sorry you are going thru this.

It is ok to vent, and please do, let it pour out ! Honey, that is what we are here for. Sometimes having a good cry is so healing, and it can get those endorphins flowing too. It is our time to be here for you, you have been so supportive and informative lately to all of us, thank you ! My heart and prayers are with you ! Love DedeGet a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

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Hi PH,

I'm assuming if you are taking drops for mycotoxins, then you are dealing with mold. One thing that I have found with my clients is if they have a major fungal infection, their MSH levels can get extremely low. Those low levels can cause extreme anxiety, agitation or terrible depression. I have had several who are normally upbeat feel like they were going to commit suicide. One could've been charged with domestic violence against her husband. You cannot will yourself to feel better when this hormone is low - it is a physical hormone and needs to come up in order to feel better. Most antidepressants are dealing with serotonin uptakes and won't be very valuable with an MSH issue. I love homeopathics, but I have found better results using herbs to kill mold internally. These emotional issues can turn around fairly quickly by getting the mold levels down. You are not alone in what you are feeling but there are things to

help.

J.

Antidepressant - Prescription or Alternative

Hi All,I wish I could say I didn't need this but I am beginning to think I do. Last week I felt so strong despite feeling physically unwell but this week I am feeling utter despair. I know part of it is detox...started homeopathic drops for mycotoxins and am feeling the die off. But the depression is really severe...to the point I'm not sure I can handle this. Sorry to bum anyone out. I want to be strong for myself and others, but I am just not feeling it and it's scaring me.I pray and I pray and I pray. I journal and I journal and I journal. I practice affirmations and gratefulness daily. It seems as if the only time I feel better is if I listen to hymns on my ipod in a dark room and I can't do that all day with children. I don't want my kids to see me so miserable all the time. They don't deserve a sad mom. I am at my very lowest I've ever been and can't seem to pull myself up.

I'm relucant to use an antidepressant long-term. I feel I just need something to take the edge off the severe depression. I can handle the physical issues, just not the emotional right now. Any suggestions? Also, any advice for headaches/pressure? Maybe I just need to get more cranio sacral therapy. - PH

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

OK, I'll try this a 3rd time. I responded accidentally through my

regular email account and so it didn't post to the group. Forgive

me if this is a repeat. What herbs do you recommend and where are

you located? How would I identify a particular fungus? My MSH was

an 8. Thanks for your expertise. - PH

--- In , Jandecka <crjan@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi PH,

>

> I'm assuming if you are taking drops for mycotoxins, then you are

dealing with mold. One thing that I have found with my clients is

if they have a major fungal infection, their MSH levels can get

extremely low. Those low levels can cause extreme anxiety, agitation

or terrible depression. I have had several who are normally upbeat

feel like they were going to commit suicide. One could've been

charged with domestic violence against her husband. You cannot will

yourself to feel better when this hormone is low - it is a physical

hormone and needs to come up in order to feel better. Most

antidepressants are dealing with serotonin uptakes and won't be very

valuable with an MSH issue. I love homeopathics, but I have found

better results using herbs to kill mold internally. These emotional

issues can turn around fairly quickly by getting the mold levels

down. You are not alone in what you are feeling but there are things

to help.

> J.

>

>

>

> Antidepressant - Prescription or

Alternative

>

> Hi All,

>

> I wish I could say I didn't need this but I am beginning to think

I

> do. Last week I felt so strong despite feeling physically unwell

but

> this week I am feeling utter despair. I know part of it is

> detox...started homeopathic drops for mycotoxins and am feeling

the

> die off.

>

> But the depression is really severe...to the point I'm not sure I

can

> handle this. Sorry to bum anyone out. I want to be strong for

myself

> and others, but I am just not feeling it and it's scaring me.

>

> I pray and I pray and I pray. I journal and I journal and I

journal.

> I practice affirmations and gratefulness daily. It seems as if the

> only time I feel better is if I listen to hymns on my ipod in a

dark

> room and I can't do that all day with children. I don't want my

kids

> to see me so miserable all the time. They don't deserve a sad mom.

I

> am at my very lowest I've ever been and can't seem to pull myself

up.

>

> I'm relucant to use an antidepressant long-term. I feel I just

need

> something to take the edge off the severe depression. I can handle

> the physical issues, just not the emotional right now. Any

> suggestions?

>

> Also, any advice for headaches/pressure? Maybe I just need to get

> more cranio sacral therapy. - PH

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dede,

Thanks for the compassion and understanding. I appreciate it! I am

a social worker and so I am used to being the strong one for others

in situations that most can't even fathom. It feels so foreign to

be in a situation like this. What happened to the energetic, happy

girl I used to be? Receiving support from you and the others gives

me strength. What would I do without all of you? - PH

>

> PH ~

> Bless your heart ! I understand your feelings. It is so hard

to pretend

> all the time, and trying to hide it from kids must really be

hard, at least

> mine are out of the house.......I know that you can try anti-

depressants short

> term and they can sure help out when needed. I have not

personally taken

> one that helped, but I know a few people that have. I can tell

that right

> now is very tough for you, I am so sorry you are going thru

this.

> It is ok to vent, and please do, let it pour out ! Honey, that

is what we

> are here for. Sometimes having a good cry is so healing, and it

can get those

> endorphins flowing too. It is our time to be here for you, you

have been

> so supportive and informative lately to all of us, thank

you ! My heart

> and prayers are with you ! Love Dede

>

>

>

> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-

new AOL at

> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

>

[Guest guest]

Honey, please know that we are all here to help you to get through this. Depression is awful, and I know because I am having a battle with it myself. I know that in my case a low dose of Xanax helps me to cope much better. Rest is very important too....no stress. How are you sleeping at night?

This is all part of the silicone poisoning, but it will go away. Please stay close to us, because we understand what you are going through.

Sending love and support....Lea

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Antidepressant - Prescription or Alternative

Hi All,I wish I could say I didn't need this but I am beginning to think I do. Last week I felt so strong despite feeling physically unwell but this week I am feeling utter despair. I know part of it is detox...started homeopathic drops for mycotoxins and am feeling the die off. But the depression is really severe...to the point I'm not sure I can handle this. Sorry to bum anyone out. I want to be strong for myself and others, but I am just not feeling it and it's scaring me.I pray and I pray and I pray. I journal and I journal and I journal. I practice affirmations and gratefulness daily. It seems as if the only time I feel better is if I listen to hymns on my ipod in a dark room and I can't do that all day with children. I don't want my kids to see me so miserable all the time. They don't deserve a sad mom. I am at my very lowest I've ever been and can't seem to pull myself up. I'm relucant to use an antidepressant long-term. I feel I just need something to take the edge off the severe depression. I can handle the physical issues, just not the emotional right now. Any suggestions? Also, any advice for headaches/pressure? Maybe I just need to get more cranio sacral therapy. - PH

[Guest guest]

Hi Lea,

Thanks for the encouragement, love and support. I rest often and

sleep pretty well but I never feel refreshed. I always wake up at 4

from numbness in my arm. I miss that wiped out feeling I used to

have and then waking up restored and ready to seize the day.

I'm on l-tryptophan which is supposed to increase seratonin and

melatonin but it is doing nothing for my mood. Maybe I will have to

experiment w/ an antidepressant although I'm nervous to add more

side effects. Thanks for the advice and the comfort that this will

go away in time. - PH

--- In , " Lea " <devans@...>

wrote:

>

> Honey, please know that we are all here to help you to get

through this. Depression is awful, and I know because I am having a

battle with it myself. I know that in my case a low dose of Xanax

helps me to cope much better. Rest is very important too....no

stress. How are you sleeping at night?

>

> This is all part of the silicone poisoning, but it will go away.

Please stay close to us, because we understand what you are going

through.

>

> Sending love and support....Lea

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````````````

> Antidepressant - Prescription or

Alternative

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> I wish I could say I didn't need this but I am beginning to

think I

> do. Last week I felt so strong despite feeling physically

unwell but

> this week I am feeling utter despair. I know part of it is

> detox...started homeopathic drops for mycotoxins and am

feeling the

> die off.

>

> But the depression is really severe...to the point I'm not

sure I can

> handle this. Sorry to bum anyone out. I want to be strong for

myself

> and others, but I am just not feeling it and it's scaring me.

>

> I pray and I pray and I pray. I journal and I journal and I

journal.

> I practice affirmations and gratefulness daily. It seems as if

the

> only time I feel better is if I listen to hymns on my ipod in

a dark

> room and I can't do that all day with children. I don't want

my kids

> to see me so miserable all the time. They don't deserve a sad

mom. I

> am at my very lowest I've ever been and can't seem to pull

myself up.

>

> I'm relucant to use an antidepressant long-term. I feel I just

need

> something to take the edge off the severe depression. I can

handle

> the physical issues, just not the emotional right now. Any

> suggestions?

>

> Also, any advice for headaches/pressure? Maybe I just need to

get

> more cranio sacral therapy. - PH

>

[Guest guest]

PH, When you've had periods of feeling better followed by flares, be aware that your body has the ability to feel better - that the flare is not going to be there long - that you just have to wade through it. As time goes by, you'll begin to make connections between what causes flares and what makes you feel better. . . AND, overall, you'll see yourself making progress towards better health. Don't let the bad days get you down! The best is yet to come. Hugs, Rogene

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Rogene for your inspiration and hope. You're right, I'm

starting to realize a pattern to my ups and downs. It seems as though

when my cognition and vision are fine, my gut doesn't feel well and

vice versa. It's as if these toxins are circulating and stop and

wreak their havoc on a particular area. When my energy is up my brain

isn't working like I want it to and when I'm absolutely fatigued I can

think a little better. Weird.

Right now it's moment to moment which I'm trying to tell myself that

in the big scheme of things it may be the silver lining...I'm learning

so many new things about myself and God and life and others. I'm just

ready to feel well 100% now!!!

It's comforting to know that in time these things will pass as long as

I'm diligent in detoxing and diet. Take care. - PH

>

> PH,

>

> When you've had periods of feeling better followed by flares, be

aware that your body has the ability to feel better - that the flare

is not going to be there long - that you just have to wade through it.

>

> As time goes by, you'll begin to make connections between what

causes flares and what makes you feel better. . . AND, overall, you'll

see yourself making progress towards better health.

>

> Don't let the bad days get you down! The best is yet to come.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>