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Yes Rogene i do this all the time, it does give a

little light relief for a while. I think i have just

learnt to live with it now. I go to see a

rheumatologist on the 8th June i am going to ask him

some questions about it.

Love Dianne x

--- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Have you tried applying cold packs?

>

> Rogene

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> Dianne Cashmore <dianneuk1@...> wrote:

> I have this all the time mainly in my arms

> but also in

> the back of my head, its very annoying.

> --- joanne_321321 <joanne_321321@...> wrote:

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> > Yes, it is sometimes in my lower legs and feet

> also

> > but mostly in my

> > chest and arms. Usually the foot bath and Epson

> salt

> > bath make it

> > better. however, but for some reason the sauna

> > really kicked it into

> > gear last night. I lie awake all night with this

> > burning thing. Are

> > you able to sleep with it?

> > Joanne

> >

> >

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Dianne, Rheumatologists are usually the last to understand what is going on with us . . .so if you he tells you to see a psychiatrist, know you're not alone! . . Somehow, someway, they got a black eye in the early nineties . . . Now most of them treat us like one would a snake. I'd suggest NOT brining up breast implants until you're satisifed with your visit . . . Then, when you do, watch our for an attitude change. Women doctors are usually more sympathatic. . . Beware of any doctor who wants to load you up with maintenance medications. Medications often have side effects that make matters worse. . . . Antibiotics and steroids are especially bad because they encourage the growth of fungal organisms. Hugs, Rogene

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Rogene,

For over 12 months i have seen doctor after doctor who

made me think i was mad, i hjave been to counselling

for the last year but guess what it has done me no

good as i am not depressed and mad just sick i went to

see one specific doctor a few months ago who believed

my implants were the cause of my illness, he has been

very good.

I will definately not be mentioning breast implants in

the same conversation as i know it falls on deaf ears.

I will see how it goes.

Thanks for the advice

Love

Dianne xx

--- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Dianne,

>

> Rheumatologists are usually the last to understand

> what is going on with us . . .so if you he tells you

> to see a psychiatrist, know you're not alone! . .

> Somehow, someway, they got a black eye in the early

> nineties . . . Now most of them treat us like one

> would a snake.

>

> I'd suggest NOT brining up breast implants until

> you're satisifed with your visit . . . Then, when

> you do, watch our for an attitude change.

>

> Women doctors are usually more sympathatic. . .

>

> Beware of any doctor who wants to load you up with

> maintenance medications. Medications often have side

> effects that make matters worse. . . . Antibiotics

> and steroids are especially bad because they

> encourage the growth of fungal organisms.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

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Dianne, Any woman who is sick from breast implants, and is met with indifference from the medical professions, is entitled to feel depressed. If you were feeling great about it all, you'd have a screw loose! When you find a doctor who understands, you've struck gold! . . . What does this doctor recommend? Hugs, Rogene

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Rogene,

Exactly, on the bad days i cry because i feel anger

and frustration as i feel i have been let down and

lied to like so many of us do.

My doctor is very understanding and sympathetic and

has recommended tests and scans for now. Also to

detox and have a good diet.

Love Dianne x

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> Dianne,

>

> Any woman who is sick from breast implants, and is

> met with indifference from the medical professions,

> is entitled to feel depressed. If you were feeling

> great about it all, you'd have a screw loose!

>

> When you find a doctor who understands, you've

> struck gold! . . .

>

> What does this doctor recommend?

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

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Dianne, Generally speaking, tests don't show much . . . and can scare you to death. The tests that show the problems are seldom offered. . . One test that is telling is the level of ionized platinum you have, your MSH level, a Visual Contrast Sensitivity test (shows the presence of biotoxins), and a silicone hypersensitivity test. . . Tests for adrenal and thyroid functioning can be telling. Some tests, like Magnesium, or Cortisol levels, can't be done with a single blood test. With Magnesium, one takes a given amount of Magnesium one day, then a 24 hour urine collection shows how much is passed . . . Cortisol is done throughout the day through with samples. Many of the conditions that tests show gradually disappear after implants are removed . . . What tests can do is seriously damage the chances of getting

medical insurance in the future. . . I'd suggest getting those implants out and giving your body a chance to heal before taking test results (or lack thereof) seriously. Hugs, Rogene Dianne Cashmore <dianneuk1@...> wrote: Rogene,Exactly, on the bad days i cry because i feel angerand frustration as i feel i have been let down andlied to

like so many of us do.My doctor is very understanding and sympathetic andhas recommended tests and scans for now. Also todetox and have a good diet.Love Dianne x--- Rogene S <saxony01 > wrote:> Dianne,> > Any woman who is sick from breast implants, and is> met with indifference from the medical professions,> is entitled to feel depressed. If you were feeling> great about it all, you'd have a screw loose!> > When you find a doctor who understands, you've> struck gold! . . . > > What does this doctor recommend?> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > __________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs./trueswitch2.html

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Rogene

My implants are out, i had them removed in March this

year after finding this group. I am still having

syptoms even though my implants were removed en bloc

with full capsulectomy. I dont feel as bad as i did

when the implants were in, i have good and bad days.

Thanks

Dianne x

--- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Dianne,

>

> Generally speaking, tests don't show much . . .

> and can scare you to death.

>

> The tests that show the problems are seldom

> offered. . . One test that is telling is the level

> of ionized platinum you have, your MSH level, a

> Visual Contrast Sensitivity test (shows the presence

> of biotoxins), and a silicone hypersensitivity test.

> . . Tests for adrenal and thyroid functioning can be

> telling.

>

> Some tests, like Magnesium, or Cortisol levels,

> can't be done with a single blood test. With

> Magnesium, one takes a given amount of Magnesium one

> day, then a 24 hour urine collection shows how much

> is passed . . . Cortisol is done throughout the day

> through with samples.

>

> Many of the conditions that tests show gradually

> disappear after implants are removed . . .

>

> What tests can do is seriously damage the chances

> of getting medical insurance in the future. . .

>

> I'd suggest getting those implants out and giving

> your body a chance to heal before taking test

> results (or lack thereof) seriously.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

> Dianne Cashmore <dianneuk1@...> wrote:

> Rogene,

>

> Exactly, on the bad days i cry because i feel anger

> and frustration as i feel i have been let down and

> lied to like so many of us do.

>

> My doctor is very understanding and sympathetic and

> has recommended tests and scans for now. Also to

> detox and have a good diet.

>

> Love Dianne x

> --- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> > Dianne,

> >

> > Any woman who is sick from breast implants, and is

> > met with indifference from the medical

> professions,

> > is entitled to feel depressed. If you were feeling

> > great about it all, you'd have a screw loose!

> >

> > When you find a doctor who understands, you've

> > struck gold! . . .

> >

> > What does this doctor recommend?

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Great Dianne! . .. I'm sorry, I can't keep up with who has done what! . . . You're in the stage where your body is trying to undo the damage caused by implants and toxins. . . Time to concentrate on how to get toxins out of your body and how to put the right nutrients into your body it needs to heal. When you see your doctor, you may want to get tested for various vitamin/mineral/hormone levels. Hugs, Rogene

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Lol its ok Rogene, there are a lot of women.

I have been detoxing, but can you give me any advice

on what supplements to take, i have bought a herbal

remedy which is called osteopath and it has magnesium,

vitamin d and calcium in it, do you think i should

take it?????

Getting tested is what i intend to do, i have noticed

some of the symptoms flare up again at the time of my

period.

Thanks for the advice

Dianne xx

--- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Great Dianne! . ..

>

> I'm sorry, I can't keep up with who has done what!

> . . .

>

> You're in the stage where your body is trying to

> undo the damage caused by implants and toxins. . .

> Time to concentrate on how to get toxins out of your

> body and how to put the right nutrients into your

> body it needs to heal.

>

> When you see your doctor, you may want to get

> tested for various vitamin/mineral/hormone levels.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

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Dianne, Calcium and Magnesium are very, very important . . . I don't know how your supplement is forumlated, so I really can't answer. . . It's important to take a formula that the body will asssimilate rather than waste. . . . Not all brands of vitamins/minerals are equal. You should be able to handle 1500 mg of Calcium, 750 mg Magnesium, plus Vitamin D without a problem. . . . These minerals are very important for many reasons . . . Dr. Mansmann, www.magnesiumresearchlab.com has lots of info . . . Hugs, Rogene

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Rogene,

Thank you very much for the information and advice, i

think i will start taking it as from tomorrow. I will

have a look on the attached link too.

Thanks again

Dianne xx

--- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Dianne,

>

> Calcium and Magnesium are very, very important . .

> . I don't know how your supplement is forumlated, so

> I really can't answer. . . It's important to take a

> formula that the body will asssimilate rather than

> waste. . . . Not all brands of vitamins/minerals are

> equal.

>

> You should be able to handle 1500 mg of Calcium,

> 750 mg Magnesium, plus Vitamin D without a problem.

> . . .

>

> These minerals are very important for many reasons

> . . . Dr. Mansmann, www.magnesiumresearchlab.com has

> lots of info . . .

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

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