Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I would like you to remind me of why you suggested T3 only instead of Armour...I know there was a good reason but I forgot so please remind me. A) Because you tend towards high Cortisol. Adding more T4 to your system could just cause RT3 to go higher which blocks the receptors that T3 needs to enter the cells. Also, why do high doses of Armour stress the adrenals...is it because of the T4 to T3 conversion or is it from the direct T3? Will Cynomel have the same potential effect? A) Raising thyroid uses up more cortisol as your metabolism comes up you use more of most hormones, cortisol is just one that if you are nto able to make enough thyroid can cause you to feel it VERY much as plenty of cortisol is needed for the body to utilze thyroid properly. The higher the Armour dose, the more strain (nto stress really) it puts on the adrenals to make enough cortisol for the use of the thyroid hormones, thus if adnrals are weak,they can crash by raising thyroid too quickly. Furthermore, I don't see much on T3 only, just mostly adding T3 to T4. Please remind me again why T3 only is a good idea for me. A) see fist two answers. Basically your T4 is not that low but your body is asking for more thyroid (T3 ) by raising your TSH so there is a problem with conversion already or your body would just convert the T4 it has into the T3 it needs and it si not doing that, so there is already a conversion issue. Probably from high cortisol which makes the body favor conversion of T4 to RT3 rather than T3. This can only make you feel worse. Taking JUST T3 gives your body the active hormone it needs which will help push RT3 out of the receptors,and utilize the excess cortisol you are making and lower the stress in your body (from being hypo) that is causing the cortisol to be high in the first place. Finally, dosing you suggested 12.5 mcg 2x per day. Should I start slower and build it up? A) You can if you want to but usually with high cortisol you can jump right in to a 25mcg dose without an issue. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Thanks . The only thing you didn't answer for me was the question about will Cynomel have the same effect that Armour would as far as stressing the adrenals. THANKS A MILLION!!!! Sincerely,Tony Bahuhttp://www.TonyBahu.comhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=OfRKmHb7NVs I would like you to remind me of why you suggested T3 only instead of Armour...I know there was a good reason but I forgot so please remind me.A) Because you tend towards high Cortisol. Adding more T4 to your system could just cause RT3 to go higher which blocks the receptors that T3 needs to enter the cells. Also, why do high doses of Armour stress the adrenals...is it because of the T4 to T3 conversion or is it from the direct T3? Will Cynomel have the same potential effect?A) Raising thyroid uses up more cortisol as your metabolism comes up you use more of most hormones, cortisol is just one that if you are nto able to make enough thyroid can cause you to feel it VERY much as plenty of cortisol is needed for the body to utilze thyroid properly. The higher the Armour dose, the more strain (nto stress really) it puts on the adrenals to make enough cortisol for the use of the thyroid hormones, thus if adnrals are weak,they can crash by raising thyroid too quickly. Furthermore, I don't see much on T3 only, just mostly adding T3 to T4. Please remind me again why T3 only is a good idea for me.A) see fist two answers. Basically your T4 is not that low but your body is asking for more thyroid (T3 ) by raising your TSH so there is a problem with conversion already or your body would just convert the T4 it has into the T3 it needs and it si not doing that, so there is already a conversion issue. Probably from high cortisol which makes the body favor conversion of T4 to RT3 rather than T3. This can only make you feel worse. Taking JUST T3 gives your body the active hormone it needs which will help push RT3 out of the receptors,and utilize the excess cortisol you are making and lower the stress in your body (from being hypo) that is causing the cortisol to be high in the first place. Finally, dosing you suggested 12.5 mcg 2x per day. Should I start slower and build it up? A) You can if you want to but usually with high cortisol you can jump right in to a 25mcg dose without an issue. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Also, ----the negative feedback loop. Will I experience that with the T3 only? THANKS!!! Sincerely,Tony Bahuhttp://www.TonyBahu.comhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=OfRKmHb7NVs Thanks . The only thing you didn't answer for me was the question about will Cynomel have the same effect that Armour would as far as stressing the adrenals. THANKS A MILLION!!!! Sincerely,Tony Bahuhttp://www.TonyBahu.comhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=OfRKmHb7NVs I would like you to remind me of why you suggested T3 only instead of Armour...I know there was a good reason but I forgot so please remind me.A) Because you tend towards high Cortisol. Adding more T4 to your system could just cause RT3 to go higher which blocks the receptors that T3 needs to enter the cells. Also, why do high doses of Armour stress the adrenals...is it because of the T4 to T3 conversion or is it from the direct T3? Will Cynomel have the same potential effect?A) Raising thyroid uses up more cortisol as your metabolism comes up you use more of most hormones, cortisol is just one that if you are nto able to make enough thyroid can cause you to feel it VERY much as plenty of cortisol is needed for the body to utilze thyroid properly. The higher the Armour dose, the more strain (nto stress really) it puts on the adrenals to make enough cortisol for the use of the thyroid hormones, thus if adnrals are weak,they can crash by raising thyroid too quickly. Furthermore, I don't see much on T3 only, just mostly adding T3 to T4. Please remind me again why T3 only is a good idea for me.A) see fist two answers. Basically your T4 is not that low but your body is asking for more thyroid (T3 ) by raising your TSH so there is a problem with conversion already or your body would just convert the T4 it has into the T3 it needs and it si not doing that, so there is already a conversion issue. Probably from high cortisol which makes the body favor conversion of T4 to RT3 rather than T3. This can only make you feel worse. Taking JUST T3 gives your body the active hormone it needs which will help push RT3 out of the receptors,and utilize the excess cortisol you are making and lower the stress in your body (from being hypo) that is causing the cortisol to be high in the first place. Finally, dosing you suggested 12.5 mcg 2x per day. Should I start slower and build it up? A) You can if you want to but usually with high cortisol you can jump right in to a 25mcg dose without an issue. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 If your adrenals are nto making enough cortisol, yes you could get adrneal stress from even a small dose of T3. I do nto think you willget negative resuklts from the feedbakc loop on the doses we discussed. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Hi Val: I took PS last night (300 mg) to turn off my cortisol...I still slept like crap....does it take awhile for this stuff to kick in? Claudene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 To lower high night time coritls oyu shoudl take 500mg about 2 hours before bedtime. Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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