Re: Val - Now at 10mg HC, tapering but all of a sudden 8 lb weight gain!?!?!

[Guest guest]

>>I thought that I was

relatively safe in decreasing dose of armour for a little bit as

doesn't the T4 last for at least 6 weeks in the body? I know the T3

is much less but I didn't reduce my armour for that long, probably 2

weeks or so. <<

When you go to full replacement with thyroid, your own thyroid will actually

shrink in size and thus it's ability to produce thyorid hormones. Now it CAL

come back to at least where it was functioning PRE-thyroid treatment, but it

takes up to 2 momnths to do so, os it is functioning even less than it was

before you started Armour. One DAY off thyroid meds and I feel it, in a week I

am swellign like a toad.

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[Guest guest]

Ok, I never thought about the ramifications of dosing armour high

enough to suppress function and how that would effect my body if

suddendly dosing lower....well now I know. I am having classic hypo

symptoms, mainly, bloating, water retention, constipation.

How long will it take to feel better?? I hope not 6 weeks?? I am

back up to 3 grains but only started that a few days ago. How long

will it take for the body to build up the proper amount of thyroid

again??

Oh vey, I guess I learned another lesson the hard way...eventually I

will muddle through this debacle that is my thyroid!

>

> >>I thought that I was

> relatively safe in decreasing dose of armour for a little bit as

> doesn't the T4 last for at least 6 weeks in the body? I know the

T3

> is much less but I didn't reduce my armour for that long, probably

2

> weeks or so. <<

>

> When you go to full replacement with thyroid, your own thyroid

will actually shrink in size and thus it's ability to produce

thyorid hormones. Now it CAL come back to at least where it was

functioning PRE-thyroid treatment, but it takes up to 2 momnths to

do so, os it is functioning even less than it was before you started

Armour. One DAY off thyroid meds and I feel it, in a week I am

swellign like a toad.

>

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WV

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, I never thought about the ramifications of dosing armour high

enough to suppress function and how that would effect my body if

suddendly dosing lower....well now I know. I am having classic hypo

symptoms, mainly, bloating, water retention, constipation.

How long will it take to feel better?? I hope not 6 weeks?? I am

back up to 3 grains but only started that a few days ago. How long

will it take for the body to build up the proper amount of thyroid

again??

Oh vey, I guess I learned another lesson the hard way...eventually I

will muddle through this debacle that is my thyroid!

>

> >>I thought that I was

> relatively safe in decreasing dose of armour for a little bit as

> doesn't the T4 last for at least 6 weeks in the body? I know the

T3

> is much less but I didn't reduce my armour for that long, probably

2

> weeks or so. <<

>

> When you go to full replacement with thyroid, your own thyroid

will actually shrink in size and thus it's ability to produce

thyorid hormones. Now it CAL come back to at least where it was

functioning PRE-thyroid treatment, but it takes up to 2 momnths to

do so, os it is functioning even less than it was before you started

Armour. One DAY off thyroid meds and I feel it, in a week I am

swellign like a toad.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, well thank goodness it doesn't take 6 weeks to get back to where I

was. Ok, I was planning reducing HC again this week but it is

probably a good idea to stay at 10mg for now, right?! How long should

I stay at 10mg? For another week until I adjust to 3 grains again? I

realize it is quite a jump to go from 1 grain to 3 grains but I have

only been coasting at 1 grain per day for less then 1 week. BUT I

also don't want to overshoot my sweet spot. Should I just try for 2

1/2 grains instead of the full 3?

What do you think?

>

> >>How long will it take to feel better?? I hope not 6 weeks?? I am

> back up to 3 grains but only started that a few days ago. How long

> will it take for the body to build up the proper amount of thyroid

> again?? <<

>

> It usually tskes me a week or two to get everything back to normal

when I go hypo pretty badly.

>

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>

[Guest guest]

>>Should I just try for 2

1/2 grains instead of the full 3? <<

In light if recently lowering HC I would stay at the 10MG HC for now and maybe

go to 2.5 Armour. Adrenals will be TENDER and vulnerable for several months

after healing, so go reall easy on them or you will end up sick agian.

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[Guest guest]

Ok, will stay at 10mg. I am having lower back pain too but I don't

know if that is adrenal or thyroid related. My body goes through

withdrawl symptoms and then stops so I am not increasing HC at all

but it's almost like my body rebels a little bit and I have a few

rough or hard days then everything gets better. But I am very

excited that I have dosed down from 30mg and have not gotten sick or

felt that I needed to increase HC. The only VERY discouraging thing

is the weight gain but that is an armour issue (I hope)

My heart rate is up due to the increase in armour so it is

definitely wise to stick with 10mg for now. How should I dose it?

I have been doing 2.5mg 4x per day with the last dose being

bedtime...should I do it differently? How should I dose 7.5 and

5mg?? Oh, and how long should I stay at 10mg?

Thank you!!

>

> >>Should I just try for 2

> 1/2 grains instead of the full 3? <<

>

> In light if recently lowering HC I would stay at the 10MG HC for

now and maybe go to 2.5 Armour. Adrenals will be TENDER and

vulnerable for several months after healing, so go reall easy on

them or you will end up sick agian.

>

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WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

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>

[Guest guest]

>>My heart rate is up due to the increase in armour so it is

definitely wise to stick with 10mg for now. How should I dose it?

I have been doing 2.5mg 4x per day with the last dose being

bedtime...should I do it differently? How should I dose 7.5 and

5mg?? Oh, and how long should I stay at 10mg?<<

As long as your current dosing seems ot be working for you, don;t change it!

Just hol dthere till you get the thyroid OPTIMAL. Then once optimized again you

can continue loweirng the HC.

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I hope you didn't mean you're going to drop 5mg at one time. Maybe this works

for you, and if it does, then bless you, but most of us find that dropping 2.5mg

every week or two works best. Have you been dropping 5mg each time? How far

apart have you spaced your decreases?

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Hello Val! You may remember me from STTM, I am maddiesmom. Well I

have successfully tapered down to 10mg HC from 30mg where I am

currently holding, I am going to 5mg tomorrow...

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[Guest guest]

Val....ok, since increasing the armour last Friday up to 2 grains

from 1 grain and then the consistent, I am more tired then usual.

Is this just my adrenals reacting to upping armour? I am still at

10mg and do not feel any physical signs that I need to stress dose

or increase the HC just a little tired...and lower back hurts but I

guess those could all be hypo situations too, right? Am I going to

go through the whole feel worse before I feel better thing in

regards to armour? I remember there was a time when 2 1/2 grains

felt better and then increasing to 3 caused more hypo as full

suppression was/is ocurring? So am I going to have to deal with

that again just because of lowering armour for a short time?

Thanks!

> Hi,

>

> I hope you didn't mean you're going to drop 5mg at one time. Maybe

this works for you, and if it does, then bless you, but most of us

find that dropping 2.5mg every week or two works best. Have you been

dropping 5mg each time? How far apart have you spaced your decreases?

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------

>

> Hello Val! You may remember me from STTM, I am maddiesmom. Well I

> have successfully tapered down to 10mg HC from 30mg where I am

> currently holding, I am going to 5mg tomorrow...

>

> ---------------------------------

> Building a website is a piece of cake.

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>

[Guest guest]

Well the decrease in thyroid was gradual and temps were still

staying in range so I thought reducing thyroid was the right thing

to do at the time. The consistent nausea, fast heart rate and high

BP have disappeared. The back pain is much less today as well. so

far today I have taken 5mg HC. 2.5 upon waking and another 2.5 at

11:30. My temp just now was 98.6 at 2:00PM. These are all good

signs that I am doing the right thing, correct?

>

> Are you graphing your temps? I think you should be so you KNOW

which it

> is adrenals or thyroid. You gave your adrenals a BIG hit wiht

> fluctuating thyroid hormones, so do not be surprised if you need

ot

> increase HC again a bit even if it is just for a week or two. The

back

> pain I get is from low cortiosl more than thyroid

>

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[Guest guest]

>>The back pain is much less today as well. so

far today I have taken 5mg HC. 2.5 upon waking and another 2.5 at

11:30. My temp just now was 98.6 at 2:00PM. These are all good

signs that I am doing the right thing, correct?<<

Yes but higher temps when hypo can be from adrenal stress as well which is why I

suggest grapohing the daily averages for a few days to knwo.

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[Guest guest]

I'm glad it's working for you, Maddiesmom. I am tapering down from 27.5mg of HC

a day, and I am now down to 7.5mg a day--down to 5mg a day in two days. I tried

the faster route and didn't feel so good, so I slowed down. I agree with

you--whatever works, works!

maddiesmom wrote:

Actually, I did drop 5mg the last time I decreased and it did work for

me. I started at 30mg and worked my way down by decreasing 2.5mg every 7-10 days

until I hit 15mg then I went from 15mg to 10mg without a hitch. I know what has

been said works for most people and I say what works for each individual whether

that is outside the norm or not...works.

Thanks for your note!

Arabella on wrote:

Hi,

I hope you didn't mean you're going to drop 5mg at one time. Maybe this works

for you, and if it does, then bless you, but most of us find that dropping 2.5mg

every week or two works best. Have you been dropping 5mg each time? How far

apart have you spaced your decreases?

----------------------------------------------------

Hello Val! You may remember me from STTM, I am maddiesmom. Well I

have successfully tapered down to 10mg HC from 30mg where I am

currently holding, I am going to 5mg tomorrow...

---------------------------------

Building a website is a piece of cake.

Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

[Guest guest]

, good for you in getting down to 7.5. I have yet to get

there as I am still at 10. How are you dosing the 7.5?? How will

you dose the 5mg?? I too tried a much faster way (think cold

turkey...also think stupid) and got very sick and then another time

I tried to wean I felt sinus issues which I thought was low cortisol

to I would always up the HC again but what was really going on with

the sinuses is that is my body's way of initially reacting to any

change and I have to wait it out a few days and things get better.

The waiting is the hardest part and I didn't realize that was

happening until I fought it out and felt better, then the light bulb

clicked on. It's interesting, going from 20mg-15mg was hard, 15mg-

10mg was easy and now I'm thinking 10mg-7.5mg will be hard as I am

adjusting to higher amounts of thyroid too. I just really want to

be off this HC. Good luck to you in dosing down to 5mg! Keep in

touch!

> Hi,

>

> I hope you didn't mean you're going to drop 5mg at one time. Maybe

this works for you, and if it does, then bless you, but most of us

find that dropping 2.5mg every week or two works best. Have you been

dropping 5mg each time? How far apart have you spaced your decreases?

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------

>

> Hello Val! You may remember me from STTM, I am maddiesmom. Well I

> have successfully tapered down to 10mg HC from 30mg where I am

> currently holding, I am going to 5mg tomorrow...

>

> ---------------------------------

> Building a website is a piece of cake.

> Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

>

>