Re: CMN's

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I tried the other day to explain to the manager for this service that these

were good for 6 months (CMN's) and because he thinks that he knows

everything, he said that no, that was Medicaid and PAN for such that was

good. I know that I was right, because F.E. had said something about CMN's

on here not too long ago and said they were good for 6 months.

They required us to get one everytime we pick up a patient from a N.H. going

to where ever. I'm not sure how they are getting payment for the dialysis

patients that are able to sit up in a wheelchair that we care by ambulance.

They don't have a W/C van, so they are carried by ambulance.

On the CMN they have us put things like Diaper, Peg-Tub, (L) AKA, Renal

Failure, decubitus and the stages. They are claiming that these things

require ambulance transport, when in some cases they do required ambulance

if they are truly bed-confined. But for the dialysis patients they may have

a BKA or AKA, but able to sit in a W/C.

The main office that does the billing is in another city, so no billing is

done at our office. So, I guess that we will see what happens after 4-1-02

when things change again.

Wayne

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>Subject: Re: CMN's

>Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:05:23 -0600

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> CMS is good for 6 months unless patients condition changes. If they can

>sit in a wheelchair CMS won't pay for dialysis, or any other condition in a

>wheelchair. As far as the conditions below you have to be doing something

>wrong somewhere, with out a doubt.

> Wait til the new rules hit 4-1-02 and watch about a 40-60% drop in Texas.

>We (different local, state and national associations) have been warning

>folks about this for 2 years or more. Now everyone is ready to listen, but

>it's alittle late.

>Ron

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