Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Tnaks for the info. Can you get us an address, phone number, etc? A-FibFriendSteve Re: Second Ablation > Can you expand of where you had your ablation and who done it in London. Thanks for the comments . I had both ablations at the London Bridge Hospital (next to Guy's and St ') by Dr Jaswinder Gill. A brief 15 min run of afib this morning but otherwise, remaining in NSR with the odd ectopic. > > ********************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Hi Bob What happens when the heart re-models itself. . Re: Second Ablation - certainly , I was treated by Dr J.S.Gill at the London Bridge (Bupa were paying). He normally works at Guy's and ' Hospital for his NHS patients. He is very conservative in his assessment of what success he can offer and is a delight to consult with. You may have caught my post about a month ago where I saw him again. He is keeping me on Sotalol and Warfarin until ablation plus four months to allow my heart to re-model itself. Now two months in NSR and counting! Bob > HI Bob, can we have the name of the Dr and the Hospital you > were in. Its seems very difficult for Uk patients to find out > who and where to go for help. > > C Uk Web Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport FAQ - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport/files/Administrative/faq.htm For more information: http://www.dialsolutions.com/af Unsubscribe: AFIBsupport-unsubscribe List owner: AFIBsupport-owner For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email, send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Hi Christian, this depends on a few things. I use to travel a lot and I was once in Blackpool and I had an attack , I went to the local hosptial there and to be honest they were no interested.(This was when I was first dianosed with AF and did not know much.) I would suggest the following. Go to hospital if you heart rate becomes very fast for a long period of time. Fast depends on your usual pulse rate. Go to hospital if you get pains in your chest or left arm. If you get short of breath. If the dr tells you that after a certain amount of time in AF you need to go the the hostpial. this is the way I played it, I use to get lots of chest pains when taking Amiodarone, it was like a brusing of the inside of the chest, I got use to it in the end. It was very frightning at the time though!!!. C > >I am a new member. As part of my job, I travel to >London a lot (once a month). If I ever have a problem >with an a-fib attack or need to see a doctor, what is >the best approach? Walk into a hospital? Walk in >clinics? Any advice? > >Christian >--- john codling wrote: >> Codling Hornchurch Essex England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Hi Christian, this depends on a few things. I use to travel a lot and I was once in Blackpool and I had an attack , I went to the local hosptial there and to be honest they were no interested.(This was when I was first dianosed with AF and did not know much.) I would suggest the following. Go to hospital if you heart rate becomes very fast for a long period of time. Fast depends on your usual pulse rate. Go to hospital if you get pains in your chest or left arm. If you get short of breath. If the dr tells you that after a certain amount of time in AF you need to go the the hostpial. this is the way I played it, I use to get lots of chest pains when taking Amiodarone, it was like a brusing of the inside of the chest, I got use to it in the end. It was very frightning at the time though!!!. C > >I am a new member. As part of my job, I travel to >London a lot (once a month). If I ever have a problem >with an a-fib attack or need to see a doctor, what is >the best approach? Walk into a hospital? Walk in >clinics? Any advice? > >Christian >--- john codling wrote: >> Codling Hornchurch Essex England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Hi Bob The way I understand it , is the heart changes shape..whether this is good or bad is unclear but as I`m in permanent af I would like to think that the chances of returning to NSR would be better if the old ticker stayed the same shape. I`m sure someone out there can clarify this question Re: Second Ablation , I guess that the heart will then be more likely to remain in NSR as it will recognise that as being the norm. Bob > Hi Bob > > What happens when the heart re-models itself. > > . Web Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport FAQ - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport/files/Administrative/faq.htm For more information: http://www.dialsolutions.com/af Unsubscribe: AFIBsupport-unsubscribe List owner: AFIBsupport-owner For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email, send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Hi Bob. yep you are right the longer you are in Afib the more it changes shape.. This is called remodelling. Now for some patients this is fine and they feel really well, with the exception of feeling a little short of breath with some minor exercise. Now for those of us that feel unwell , which I estimate is 90 % of the board otherwise they would not be here?( is this assumption correct). The heart changes make the firing of the electrical impulses react in a different manner and does not help with the NSR. Now if you have the AF problems resolved then your heart will not go into Afib but you will find after the PVA or what ever procedure you are having there will be a period of extreme trauma as the heart remodels back to normality. I was told I would regain 30 50 % of normal heart shape. C Uk > Hi Bob > The way I understand it , is the heart changes shape..whether this is good or bad is unclear but as I`m in permanent af I would like to think that the chances of returning to NSR would be better if the old ticker stayed the same shape. > > Codling Hornchurch Essex England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 In a message dated 12/26/03 1:35:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, johncodling@... writes: << Now for those of us that feel unwell , which I estimate is 90 % of the board otherwise they would not be here?( is this assumption correct). >> , I think it's true that as people feel more unwell from afib symptoms, they tend to participate more in a group like this. However, since the afib experience changes over the course of one's afib career, it's possible that the majority participating here are not currently feeling extremely unwell at this time, but they may be participating to learn more and to help others, as Ed said. In my case, although I am having little trouble with afib now, I remember all too well the horrible symptoms I was having two to four years ago when I was in afib 50 percent of the time. I also clearly remember the absolute terror I experienced twenty years ago when I had only two or three afib episodes per year. Each time I was sure I would die. Twenty years ago it was only the reassurance of my brother, who had lived through the same symptoms, that pulled me through. I feel a need to offer that same reassurance to beginning afibbers who are now where I was twenty years ago. Just knowing that others have survived is very helpful and calming, I think. My other thought is a question about this remodeling process. I have no doubt that it can occur, but again, I think the process must be as individual as is the afib experience itself. That is, remodeling must occur over a longer time period in some people than in others. For example, after twenty years of afib, it now seems harder for me to stay in afib than to stay in sinus. My rare episodes have become even shorter than they were during the first years that I had afib. Either twenty years was not long enough for complete remodeling to occur or reversing the remodeling was fairly easy in my case. My E.P. said he thinks that I would be in permanent afib by now if I were going to be, probably because remodelling has had more than enough time and opportunity in my case. I still regard myself as a member of the afib brother/sisterhood, however, because I believe that when one demonstrates a tendency toward afib, that tendency is always there unless it is permanently reversed by ablation or surgery. in sinus in Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 > From: Steve > Date: 1/13/04, 9:27 AM -0500 > > Dear , > Physically the atria enlarge, weaken, and > lose their ability to pump well. [snip] But > Dr. Pappone's long term studies (three years) > indicate that some aspects of remodeling can be > reversed after patients are cured by a PVA(I). > A-FibFriendSteve > Re: Re: Second Ablation > > > Hi Bob > > What happens when the heart re-models itself. Snip - 3915 characters on 125 lines, mostly three footers. How fast do the atria lose their ability to pump well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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