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Tommy,

I'm in North Jersey, using ms explorer. The link I checked ( nrm) worked

fine. Thanks for all your effort! The page looks great. BTW, on the AA

portion of the NRM website, it was implied that AA deprogramming was the

work of an anonymous man. I thought a woman named Apple ( who is a

member of this list) started that sight. Does anyone know if I am right?

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You are correct.

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SEAN P CASHIN wrote:

I thought a woman named Apple ( who is a

> member of this list) started that sight. Does anyone know if I am right?

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It's excellent Tommy. The written portion is articulate and

persuasive, and visually it is very nice to look at.

Judith

> This is a rough draft of my new web site. I ask for your

criticism

and

> suggestions. I'll finalize it in a week or two, but in the mean

time I ask

> that you not circulate it just yet.

>

> I had wanted to include the full text of the court's opinion in

v.

> Laird, but scanning a good clean copy just did not come out clear.

It's

> over 30 pages long. Anyway, all comments welcome. This is the

first time

> I've done a site, and it took longer than I thought it would, but

it's and

> Angelfire freebee.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tommy

>

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tommy, have you thought of running it through an OCR (optical

character

recognition) program like Omni Page or something. Putting up scans is

not such a great idea but putting up the text is.

apple

> I had wanted to include the full text of the court's opinion in

v.

> Laird, but scanning a good clean copy just did not come out clear.

It's

> over 30 pages long. Anyway, all comments welcome. This is the

first time

> I've done a site, and it took longer than I thought it would, but

it's and

> Angelfire freebee.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tommy

>

> http://www.angelfire.com/journal/forcedaa/index.html

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And if you thought it took you awhile to put up the site just wait

till you start proofing 30 pages of OCR scans. :)

Life is hell sometimes but it beats AA.

The site looks good. You may want to put the continue link somewhere

easier to find. On first look even after reading the first page I

thought that's all there was.

Have you considered putting the separate Armed Forces Seals at the

top of the Sites Home Page?

Now if I could only articulate my revulsion to XA as well as you

Apple and just about everyone else here I'd put up a page myself.

BTW I logged in at site visit 29 came back a few seconds later and it

was at 32. So you're already getting some good hits off just this

list.

Re: My web site

tommy, have you thought of running it through an OCR (optical

character

recognition) program like Omni Page or something. Putting up scans is

not such a great idea but putting up the text is.

apple

> I had wanted to include the full text of the court's opinion in

v.

> Laird, but scanning a good clean copy just did not come out clear.

It's

> over 30 pages long. Anyway, all comments welcome. This is the

first time

> I've done a site, and it took longer than I thought it would, but

it's and

> Angelfire freebee.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tommy

>

> http://www.angelfire.com/journal/forcedaa/index.html

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Judith,, , Apple et al.

Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get a

page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me? Did

you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

Tommy

> And if you thought it took you awhile to put up the site just wait

> till you start proofing 30 pages of OCR scans. :)

>

> Life is hell sometimes but it beats AA.

>

> The site looks good. You may want to put the continue link

somewhere

> easier to find. On first look even after reading the first page I

> thought that's all there was.

>

> Have you considered putting the separate Armed Forces Seals at the

> top of the Sites Home Page?

>

> Now if I could only articulate my revulsion to XA as well as you

> Apple and just about everyone else here I'd put up a page myself.

>

> BTW I logged in at site visit 29 came back a few seconds later and

it

> was at 32. So you're already getting some good hits off just this

> list.

>

>

> Re: My web site

>

> tommy, have you thought of running it through an OCR (optical

> character

> recognition) program like Omni Page or something. Putting up scans

is

> not such a great idea but putting up the text is.

> apple

>

> > I had wanted to include the full text of the court's opinion in

> v.

> > Laird, but scanning a good clean copy just did not come out clear.

> It's

> > over 30 pages long. Anyway, all comments welcome. This is the

> first time

> > I've done a site, and it took longer than I thought it would, but

> it's and

> > Angelfire freebee.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Tommy

> >

> > http://www.angelfire.com/journal/forcedaa/index.html

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At 16:04 17/04/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Judith,, , Apple et al.

>

>Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

>time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get a

>page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me? Did

>you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

>Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

>

>Tommy

A wonderful web page Tommy- history is being made!

I haven't tried all the links yet but so far, including the " continue "

button, it is working well as far as I can see.

Joe B.

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Yes, the same thing happened to me: clicked " continue "

and got a page of source code. Unfortunately I can't tell you why, I

have less experience than you do with web pages.

Judith

> Judith,, , Apple et al.

>

> Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

> time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get a

> page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me?

Did

> you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

> Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

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Judith, Joe,

Thanks. I just rushed home from the library and everything works

fine here at home. This is strange. I'm heading out to the local

community college to check it out there. Anyone have any idea what's

going on, let me know. I'm a computer dummy.

Thanks,

Tommy

> >Judith,, , Apple et al.

> >

> >Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

> >time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get a

> >page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me?

Did

> >you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

> >Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

> >

> >Tommy

>

> A wonderful web page Tommy- history is being made!

>

> I haven't tried all the links yet but so far, including

the " continue "

> button, it is working well as far as I can see.

>

> Joe B.

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No, I don't get the other links, just the raw code.

Apple

> Judith,, , Apple et al.

>

> Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

> time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get a

> page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me?

Did

> you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

> Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

>

> Tommy

>

>

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I'm now sitting in the library of the local cc and I don't get the

links either. I completed the site last night and everything works

fine at home. There is a " Continue " button at the bottom of the home

page which takes you to " Contents " which lists:

A Message to the Media

The Myth of Spititual, Not Religious (4 links)

1. Decleration of Independence

2. Act For Establishing Religious Liberty

3. New Religious Movements

4. AA Deprogramming

Court Opinions (6 links, including one internal page by Leo Pheffer)

Selected Quotes

A Final Salute (1 link, Madison)

Please give me feedback on who (Where you are) is getting the links

and who is not. Sounds like the U.K. and New Orleans are getting

them.

Thanks,

Tommy

> > Judith,, , Apple et al.

> >

> > Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

> > time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get

a

> > page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me?

> Did

> > you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

> > Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

> >

> > Tommy

> >

> >

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At 17:31 17/04/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Please give me feedback on who (Where you are) is getting the links

>and who is not. Sounds like the U.K. and New Orleans are getting

>them.

>

>Thanks,

>

>Tommy

I got your site ok on one browser (IE5, from Microsoft). But when I tried

the " Continue " button using a different browser (StarOffice, from Sun

Microsystems) I got a page of html code.

I don't know much about web page making, but some web design software

creates code that some parts of only function on Microsoft browsers. You

might be experiencing some browser-specific problem possibly.

Maybe it would help if people commenting on whether this site works or not

could state what browser they are using.

Joe B.

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Tommy: I was also able to see your whole site with Internet Explorer,

but not with Netscape.

Judith

> I got your site ok on one browser (IE5, from Microsoft). But when I

tried

> the " Continue " button using a different browser (StarOffice, from

Sun

> Microsystems) I got a page of html code.

>

> I don't know much about web page making, but some web design

software

> creates code that some parts of only function on Microsoft

browsers.

You

> might be experiencing some browser-specific problem possibly.

>

> Maybe it would help if people commenting on whether this site works

or not

> could state what browser they are using.

>

> Joe B.

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Tommy:

This is where I would start. I think 's found the culprit. I

took a look and sure nuff the file extensions are missing. Which

appears to be no problem for Internet Explorer 5.xx but may very well

be a problem for older versions and Netscape.

I'm using IE 5.00.

Re: Re: My web site

,

I copied the page of code I got to my own web page, and when I viewed

it, I saw it as a web page. I'm not Mr. Computer, but I'm going to

copy

the code from your page #1 and sewe what I can see. I'm thinking it

is

in the way you named your links- I notice one link is called " court "

insted of " court.html " .

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, Bob,

Thanks. I'll check it out in a few days if necessary. Maybe it just

takes Angelfire a while to get it on line right. The thing that

bothered me when I first noticed it was that I thought I might have

lost it in cyberspace after putting in all that time.

Tommy

> Tommy:

>

> This is where I would start. I think 's found the culprit. I

> took a look and sure nuff the file extensions are missing. Which

> appears to be no problem for Internet Explorer 5.xx but may very

well

> be a problem for older versions and Netscape.

>

> I'm using IE 5.00.

>

>

> Re: Re: My web site

>

> ,

> I copied the page of code I got to my own web page, and when I

viewed

> it, I saw it as a web page. I'm not Mr. Computer, but I'm going to

> copy

> the code from your page #1 and sewe what I can see. I'm thinking it

> is

> in the way you named your links- I notice one link is called " court "

> insted of " court.html " .

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>I thought a woman named Apple ( who is a member of this list)

started

that sight. Does anyone know if I am right?>

yes, you are correct. Apple is female.

Judith

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I get the linked pages with pictures and everything. (Just another voice

from another part of the country. . . . )

Nice web site, Tommy - well done for a first timer.

jan

Re: My web site

> No, I don't get the other links, just the raw code.

> Apple

>

>

> > Judith,, , Apple et al.

> >

> > Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

> > time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get a

> > page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me?

> Did

> > you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

> > Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

> >

> > Tommy

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Pittsburgh is getting the links

jan

Re: My web site

> I'm now sitting in the library of the local cc and I don't get the

> links either. I completed the site last night and everything works

> fine at home. There is a " Continue " button at the bottom of the home

> page which takes you to " Contents " which lists:

>

> A Message to the Media

> The Myth of Spititual, Not Religious (4 links)

> 1. Decleration of Independence

> 2. Act For Establishing Religious Liberty

> 3. New Religious Movements

> 4. AA Deprogramming

> Court Opinions (6 links, including one internal page by Leo Pheffer)

> Selected Quotes

> A Final Salute (1 link, Madison)

>

> Please give me feedback on who (Where you are) is getting the links

> and who is not. Sounds like the U.K. and New Orleans are getting

> them.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tommy

>

>

>

>

> > > Judith,, , Apple et al.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

> > > time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get

> a

> > > page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me?

> > Did

> > > you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

> > > Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

> > >

> > > Tommy

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm not getting them. Could it be the browser, not the site?

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>I'm now sitting in the library of the local cc and I don't get the

>links either. I completed the site last night and everything works

>fine at home. There is a " Continue " button at the bottom of the home

>page which takes you to " Contents " which lists:

>

>A Message to the Media

>The Myth of Spititual, Not Religious (4 links)

> 1. Decleration of Independence

> 2. Act For Establishing Religious Liberty

> 3. New Religious Movements

> 4. AA Deprogramming

>Court Opinions (6 links, including one internal page by Leo Pheffer)

>Selected Quotes

>A Final Salute (1 link, Madison)

>

>Please give me feedback on who (Where you are) is getting the links

>and who is not. Sounds like the U.K. and New Orleans are getting

>them.

>

>Thanks,

>

>Tommy

>

>

>

>

>> > Judith,, , Apple et al.

>> >

>> > Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

>> > time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get

>a

>> > page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me?

>> Did

>> > you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

>> > Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

>> >

>> > Tommy

>> >

>> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I am using Netscape 4.7.

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'---''(_/--' `-'\_)

>At 17:31 17/04/00 +0000, you wrote:

>>Please give me feedback on who (Where you are) is getting the links

>>and who is not. Sounds like the U.K. and New Orleans are getting

>>them.

>>

>>Thanks,

>>

>>Tommy

>

>I got your site ok on one browser (IE5, from Microsoft). But when I tried

>the " Continue " button using a different browser (StarOffice, from Sun

>Microsystems) I got a page of html code.

>

>I don't know much about web page making, but some web design software

>creates code that some parts of only function on Microsoft browsers. You

>might be experiencing some browser-specific problem possibly.

>

>Maybe it would help if people commenting on whether this site works or not

>could state what browser they are using.

>

>Joe B.

>

>

>

>

>

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Tommy, your links work just fine with Explorer, but not with Netscape. So it is

a browser problem, and not a geographic one.

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/,`.-'`' _ ;-;;,_

|,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'

'---''(_/--' `-'\_)

>I am using Netscape 4.7.

>---

>Kayleigh

>

> Zz

> zZ

> |\ z _,,,---,,_

> /,`.-'`' _ ;-;;,_

> |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'

> '---''(_/--' `-'\_)

>

>

>

>

>>At 17:31 17/04/00 +0000, you wrote:

>>>Please give me feedback on who (Where you are) is getting the links

>>>and who is not. Sounds like the U.K. and New Orleans are getting

>>>them.

>>>

>>>Thanks,

>>>

>>>Tommy

>>

>>I got your site ok on one browser (IE5, from Microsoft). But when I tried

>>the " Continue " button using a different browser (StarOffice, from Sun

>>Microsystems) I got a page of html code.

>>

>>I don't know much about web page making, but some web design software

>>creates code that some parts of only function on Microsoft browsers. You

>>might be experiencing some browser-specific problem possibly.

>>

>>Maybe it would help if people commenting on whether this site works or not

>>could state what browser they are using.

>>

>>Joe B.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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Kayleigh,

Thanks, I'll be making the necessary changes this week end. Also thanks

again for the proofreading on " Message to the Media " . I made most of the

changes you recomended. That page came out nice too. That is one of my

favorit Rockwell paintings. I may change the color patterns on some of the

other pages, but it turned out just right on that page.

Tommy

>

>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: 12-step-freeegroups

>Subject: Re: Re: My web site

>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:23:41 -0800

>

>Tommy, your links work just fine with Explorer, but not with Netscape. So

>it is a browser problem, and not a geographic one.

>---

>Kayleigh

>

> Zz

> zZ

> |\ z _,,,---,,_

> /,`.-'`' _ ;-;;,_

> |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'

> '---''(_/--' `-'\_)

>

>

>

>

> >I am using Netscape 4.7.

> >---

> >Kayleigh

> >

> > Zz

> > zZ

> > |\ z _,,,---,,_

> > /,`.-'`' _ ;-;;,_

> > |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'

> > '---''(_/--' `-'\_)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >>At 17:31 17/04/00 +0000, you wrote:

> >>>Please give me feedback on who (Where you are) is getting the links

> >>>and who is not. Sounds like the U.K. and New Orleans are getting

> >>>them.

> >>>

> >>>Thanks,

> >>>

> >>>Tommy

> >>

> >>I got your site ok on one browser (IE5, from Microsoft). But when I

>tried

> >>the " Continue " button using a different browser (StarOffice, from Sun

> >>Microsystems) I got a page of html code.

> >>

> >>I don't know much about web page making, but some web design software

> >>creates code that some parts of only function on Microsoft browsers. You

> >>might be experiencing some browser-specific problem possibly.

> >>

> >>Maybe it would help if people commenting on whether this site works or

>not

> >>could state what browser they are using.

> >>

> >>Joe B.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

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Thanks, Jan. No wonder you're familiar with the Outer Banks. Half of our

visitors come from Pittsburgh.

Tommy

>

>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: <12-step-freeegroups>

>Subject: Re: Re: My web site

>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:24:17 -0400

>

>Pittsburgh is getting the links

>

>jan

>

> Re: My web site

>

>

> > I'm now sitting in the library of the local cc and I don't get the

> > links either. I completed the site last night and everything works

> > fine at home. There is a " Continue " button at the bottom of the home

> > page which takes you to " Contents " which lists:

> >

> > A Message to the Media

> > The Myth of Spititual, Not Religious (4 links)

> > 1. Decleration of Independence

> > 2. Act For Establishing Religious Liberty

> > 3. New Religious Movements

> > 4. AA Deprogramming

> > Court Opinions (6 links, including one internal page by Leo Pheffer)

> > Selected Quotes

> > A Final Salute (1 link, Madison)

> >

> > Please give me feedback on who (Where you are) is getting the links

> > and who is not. Sounds like the U.K. and New Orleans are getting

> > them.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Tommy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > Judith,, , Apple et al.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your inputs. I'm sitting in a public library at lunch

> > > > time. When I click " continue " on the home page of my site I get

> > a

> > > > page of program data. Think the feds have already sabatoged me?

> > > Did

> > > > you all see all the pages: " Contents " " Myth of Spiritual, Not

> > > > Religious " et al. Anyone know what is going on?

> > > >

> > > > Tommy

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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