Guest guest Posted January 29, 2000 Report Share Posted January 29, 2000 Hi Everyone, I'd just like to say a great big thanks to all for posting their clear thoughts that cut through AA's " programming " for me. So much is still swimming around my head, but things are getting better. This is rather a pathetic statement, but I have not thought for myself in a very long time. For years, I was in an alcohol induced haze. I went directly from that to the trance like feeling of AA, where they thought for me. To think for myself is so refreshing...but somewhat scarey, too. It's as if I don't trust my own thinking. I guess that is understandable since AA told me not to. Now I find myself second guessing myself. How in the hell can AA call that recovery? I did not quit drinking to think about the fact that I quit drinking for the rest of my life. That is absurd. It is absolutely whacky that people can sit in meetings talking about the drinking that they did 20 friggin' years ago. But they have programmed me with the thought that if I should ever not think about it, I'll be in trouble. How can they even consider that living? When I try to think of a life in AA and never taking another drink for the rest of my life, I just feel plain old miserable. But if I give myself permission to have a drink...I find that I CHOOSE not to. And if I do, it's not a big deal. There- fore, I can concentrate more on life instead of recovery. But, sometimes the old AA thoughts return to haunt me. What if I cruise along just fine like this, they one day get completely drunk (because I have set off that ol' allergy) and can never stop? AA thoughts here. ( Please help me to destroy them) Special thanks to Joe B. You have a way with words that really bulldozes their thinking. Helps alot. Although I do not wish to be involved in political discussions here ( I want to deprogram from AA), it is refreshing to see opinions instead of people telling each other to just " turn it over. " So, even that is helpful. If someone gets offended they have the right to say so. And others have a right to comment too. Very unlike AA. Lets hear it for being individuals instead of AA robots. Sue > >Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups >To: 12-step-freeeGroups >Subject: Re: Fwd: AA defended by Psychologist >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:55:32 -0800 > > >This is ridiculous - this is a cult being defended by a cult member. >An appropriate expert comment would be from a non-member. > >Something I aways find remarkable abt such defenses is that they always >include universal negatives, saying " AA's dont do this " or whatever. >How can they possibly say that abt all the claimed 2 million ppl? Also, >it hardly matters if something isnt official AA policy, if almost >everybody sings from the same hymnsheet, it might as well be official >policy... and there are ludicrous contradictions anyway, as all here >know - sorry to flaunt my americanophobia again, but if even an >american court can tell AA is religious, then it's written in letters 6 >feet high. > >But most startling of all,if in fact these universal negatives are >indeed true, then it would be stunning evidence for the effectiveness >of mind control in AA, as absolutely everybody within it shows total >conformity to its doctrine, as soon as they join! > >Pete > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Save 50% at MotherNature.com! See site for details. >http://click./1/766/1/_/4324/_/949103755/ > >-- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault >-- /docvault/12-step-free/?m=1 > ______________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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