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" judith stillwater " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=14360

> I don't just want to challenge the belief that AA is a good

> organization.

>

> I also want to challenge the belief that people for whom AA works are

> morally superior to people for whom AA does not work.

>

> I want to challenge the belief that someone who has been helped by AA

> has the right to tell someone who was hurt by AA that they should keep

> their mouth shut.

>

> I want to challenge an individual's belief that the reason AA did not

> work for them was because they don't deserve to be as emotionally and

> physically healthy as humanly possible, because it's God's will that

> they be miserable (a belief that I unconsciously picked up in 12 step

> treatment and AA).

>

> I want to challenge the belief that AA evangelists are uniformly

> selfless and humble.

>

> Judith

>

>>> I believe AA not bad not for anyone who wants to belive anything

and everything that someone tells them,such as the " disease " factor,

meaning all excuses for drunkin behaviour is ok, and , and if one keeps

doing so is because, lack of meetings, cotton in ears, not putting

shoes under bed, no bumper stickers, or is not following sponsers

advice. after all( 69 years sober)all his/hers/ pigeons,,never fail,

six meeting a day,and reading the BB for seven hours a day, with

suggestions like that, nuthouse, or alternative treatment,,would drive

anyone to drink, and it proves they were not alcoholics in the first

place,,,,,so you see Judith it has helped me,I am one of the most

superior people in aa,, morally absolutely,, because most of them have

some sort of dissagreement,as to how I run my life, its my way, and no

one can change the way I think or behave, and most of them dont

bother, and if they do

I love to let them ramble on, take a nip out of my pocket, whack it

down. and they can say we knew it,,,and chage my sobriety date again,

and it also proves to them the old aa saying (dry drunk) hes not,,,

they wish!!!!! these are just a few of my words of wisdom, of how to

run a good aa program,, my way.. and Im always willing to help,, by for

now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

felix

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