Re: Please shed light on my child's anemia

[Guest guest]

The book " Survival of the Sickest " says the body lowers iron in defense against

certain infections that need the iron to reproduce or something like that.

Kids with dairy allergies can get small ruptures in their intestines that cause

bleeding and can cause anemia. My daughter had that until I switched her to raw

milk.

I was low-iron my whole childhood and I turned out fine. I was also allergic to

pasturized dairy.

>

> My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having it

tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day of

a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her a

daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

>

> I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and though

we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured local

meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not been

able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

>

> I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

how about freeze dried liver from drrons.com?

http://www.drrons.com/thyroid-adrenal-liver-pancreas-glandulars.htm

>

> My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having it

tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day of

a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her a

daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

>

> I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and though

we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured local

meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not been

able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

>

> I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

I would think that non-defatted dessicated liver powder would be more effective

than the freeze dried. I think the argentine is 100% grassfed if you google it.

Don't get tablets, as they will likely have magnesium stearate.

Sally recommends the dessicated over the freeze dried.

Yours Truly,

Dan Holt

On May 16, 2009, at 5:58 PM, " carolyn_graff " <zgraff@...> wrote:

how about freeze dried liver from drrons.com?

http://www.drrons.com/thyroid-adrenal-liver-pancreas-glandulars.htm

>

> My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having it

tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day of

a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her a

daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice. In

November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that point I

did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

>

> I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and though

we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured local

meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not been

able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

>

> I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

both the dessicated and the freeze dried are recommended in the WAPF shopping

guide. where does Sally recommend one over the other?

> >

> > My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having

it tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day

of a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her

a daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

> >

> > I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and

though we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured

local meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not

been able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

> >

> > I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Oh my goodness! I just watched Dr. Brownstein's seminar on Iodine and

Thyroid from the WAPF conference and he mentioned something about chronic low

iron and thyroid problems (sorry, I can't remember his exact words.) He ALSO

showed photo examples of children with severe thyroid problems, some of whom had

very dark circles under their eyes. After going through his protocol (including

Iodoral tablets), they looked like completely different kids! So yes, kids can

have major thyroid issues.

Other physical signs to look for:

Puffy face, ankles, or wrists

Swollen tongue (with scalloped edges due to pressing against teeth)

Thin hair

Here's his website:

www.drbrownstein.com

Hope this helps!

>

> My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having it

tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day of

a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her a

daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

>

> I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and though

we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured local

meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not been

able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

>

> I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

Please do NOT use liver from an Argentina source. It is fairly well known that

the soil and/or water in Argentina has very high levels of arsenic. Read

AnnMarie's blog post:

http://www.cheeseslave.com/2008/05/23/arsenic-in-solgar-liver-tablets/

> >

> > My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having

it tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day

of a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her

a daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

> >

> > I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and

though we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured

local meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not

been able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

> >

> > I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Lee told me to feed my son raisins for iron.

Joan

> >

> > My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having

it tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day

of a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her

a daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

> >

> > I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and

though we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured

local meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not

been able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

> >

> > I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

There are many ways to get iron in to the body. Blackstrap molasses is a great

way for minerals. It contains iron, potassium, magnesium, and is very good for

the blood. It is a natural plant product and can be stirred into milk and

sweetened with Grandma's Molasses. It is very tasty. You can put it in his

cereal or in home baked bread, etc.

It is a powerhouse of nutrition and all need to learn to love it.

We would not be without it in our house.

I raised my children to like it. They are grown and have used it for theirs now.

This will help heal mouth ulcers when swished in the mouth several times a day.

I have done it many times.

> > >

> > > My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having

it tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day

of a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her

a daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

> > >

> > > I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and

though we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured

local meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not

been able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

> > >

> > > I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I pretty much got the idea that if you could get ahold of it dessicated was

better. Freezedried is good if you can't get your hands on dessicated.

I know Aajonus states that raw organs are better than freezedried if you can get

a hold of them, so I assume freeze drying denatured nutrients in some form.

I talked to a guy that was familiar with quantum physics and he said freeze

drying is a violent process for any food.

Yours Truly,

Dan Holt

On May 17, 2009, at 8:51 AM, " carolyn_graff " <zgraff@...> wrote:

both the dessicated and the freeze dried are recommended in the WAPF shopping

guide. where does Sally recommend one over the other?

> >

> > My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having

it tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day

of a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her

a daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

> >

> > I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and

though we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured

local meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not

been able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

> >

> > I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Raw Liver & Berry milk shake.

After freezing the liver for recommended time, remove from freezer and shred

with a cheese grater till you have the amount you'd like to add to your

shake...I can not take more than 1 table spoon in my shakes.

Liver - amount you'd like

Milk - about 1 cup or so

Honey - or other sweetener you'd like

Raspberries - I make my recipe in bulk...for 1 person I'd say about 1/2 to 1 cup

of frozen berries, add as much as you'd like.

Add to Vitamix (or other blender) enjoy.

Something else you could do is add blackstrap molasses for more iron.

>

> My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having it

tested at age 1 and it was low;

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

,

Our son's iron has been low for about 8-10 months... but we finally knocked it

out and he is back in the great range:) A few thoughts from us...

1. He had slightly elevated lead levels along with his lower iron and I think

this may be common- we are unsure where he got this, as his older sister has

also tested clean for lead, we think maybe my wife's breast milk because she has

been detoxing over the past few years more so with him than our first child.

Certain bad minerals/things drive out iron. Have you had him tested for lead

or the other metals that compete with iron in the body?

2. We did raw liver... since he was little when we started, one of his favorite

foods is pureed raw liver with salt! He likes it as a starter to breakfast in

the morning. We try to make sure he gets it 2-3 times per week. we also do

12-18 egg yolks per day as breakfast, and egg yolks are a great source of iron.

3. I would be somewhat concerned with using fruit/raisins, etc. to up his iron.

One reason we think our kids may eat so well is that we don't gratify their

desire for sweets/carbs a ton, and therefore they have tastes for other things.

From what many parents have shared with us, once you get kids really used to

carbs/dried fruits, etc. as a staple, it is hard to get them off and onto other

things. We use carbs and dried fruit as a treat on ocassion (we have these

great coconut flour waffles/pancakes). It would take a lot of dried fruit to

matcht the iron in beef or bison is my hunch.

Keep us posted on how he is doing!

, , Abby and Caleb

>

> My daughter's blood has been low in iron for awhile now. I remember having it

tested at age 1 and it was low; they told me to put her on a 1/2 pill per day of

a Flintsone's multi with iron, which I ignored b/c I didn't want to give her a

daily vitamin like that. I intended to feed her liver which I did like twice.

In November, at 2 1/2 she tested low - the hemoglobin was 10.5, and at that

point I did start giving her a Flintstone's vitamin a few times a week, and also

supplemented with Floradix and an herbal tincture containing nettle, etc. Not

every day, but at least once a week on those. I had her retested last week and

her hemoglobin was 10.6, her ferratin was 18, and her hematocrit ws 31.9. The

ped called in a rx for some prescription iron, but I would really like some WAP

opinions.

>

> I know from the previous paragraph it may seem that we are not WAP, and though

we are not perfect by any stretch, we do give cod liver oil, all pastured local

meat, raw local milk, organic veggies, soaked grains, etc. I just have not been

able to do liver. Every time I pull it out of the chicken, I put it in the

fridge with the best intentions, but!

>

> I would really appreciate any feedback anyone would have to offer. I'm

skeptical of the rx iron being beneficial, but I also feel terrible that her

iron has been low for so long, and each time I really thought it would be

better. I should say she is a very healthy robost girl and doesn't seem

lethargic or weak. She does sometimes seem a little dark under the eyes. She

also had a teething fever and was getting over a cold when she was tested last

week - could that have altered her iron readings in any way?

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

In what form do you give him 12-18 egg yolks? In a smoothie?

Thanks,

Leah

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:37 AM, louisvillewapf <louisvillewapf@...>wrote:

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> -----we also do 12-18 egg yolks per day as breakfast, and egg yolks are a

> great source of iron.

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