Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Greetings, Your concerns and problems are familiar, as I needed two ablations to be cured -- yes I have no afib and take no heart meds. Please see: http://www.a-fib.com/PersonalExperiences.htm It has the ablation details of several people. , one of the several Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 > Does this mean that I am in the elite 5% of > people that did not have the ablation work? Is Atral Flutter worse > than AF? I definitely feel better, but I am tired of the fast HR. > This really sucks! > Any helpful words of advise would be nice...thank you > > Mark Hi Mark, I too have atrial flutter along with a-fib. I had a flutter ablation about 2 years ago. During the abalation process I went from flutter to fib and they weren't able to convert me back to NSR. The EP went ahead and laid down the ablation line but was not sure it was complete. I was fine until almost a year later when I once again ended up in flutter due to a very bad case of bronchitis or lowering a medicine dose or both. I was successfully cardioverted back to NSR and have been there for 10 months. At the time I went into flutter again I had the choice to go back to the EP lab for a touch up ablation but at that point decided against it. Flutter probably isn't better or worse than fib. The difference is that in flutter your heart is still beating in a regular rhythm but very fast and in fib the upper part sort of quivers and beats erraticaly and can either by very fast or just erratic. Has your physician given you any medicine to help control your heart rate when in flutter? Also there are some medicine that have a tendency to push you into flutter if you have that pre-disposition to begin with, one of them is Rythmol which I was not allowed to continue taking after my flutter ablation. Beverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 : Just out of curiosity, who pays for that site that you always URL to? What wonderful flowery stories. Makes me wonder about docs who have to do so much constly self promoting. Are you on their payroll, ? > Greetings, > Your concerns and problems are familiar, as I needed two ablations to be > cured -- yes I have no afib and take no heart meds. Please see: > > http://www.a-fib.com/PersonalExperiences.htm > > It has the ablation details of several people. > > , > one of the several > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Mark, Certainly give yourself the three months to properly assess whether the first ablation has worked or not. As to the usual success of the first ablation: The doc that did mine always forecast that only a third are cured at the first attempt, another third are improved and a final third aren't helped at all. With me I remained in afib and had a second ablation which now seems to have done the trick. Another poster on this list made the remark that it is beginning to look as if we should all expect to need two ablations with only the lucky few managing in one and the few unlucky needing three. Bob > What is up with that? Does this mean that I am in the elite 5% of > people that did not have the ablation work? Is Atral Flutter worse > than AF? I definitely feel better, but I am tired of the fast HR. > This really sucks! > Any helpful words of advise would be nice...thank you > > Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 One of those websites says that " Atrial flutter is usually a short- term problem. " Why is that? It is what I have and apparently not A Fib. Is it because it is more curable than A fib? > > > > Hi I had two ablations for AF on a monday and Wednesday back > in 2000. On the second abaltion Dr P Jais found Atrial > flutter and completed a procedure for that. > > Its all normal and good luck > > C > > Codling > Hornchurch Essex England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Ralph, That's the impression I've been getting from reading up on afib/aflutter, someone else may have a different take on it, though. Is it because it is more curable than A fib? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Well, I guess that's " good " for me. Doc says I have prox. atrial flutter and very short non sustained runs of it. Somehow though when I go see my EP in early Jan. he'll have something else to say like I go through BOTH Afib and A. flutter. Good thing is that BP is good, echo was very good, stress echo was very good, etc. I'm so glad I went to the doctor for this because every morning I get these 5 to 20 second bursts of AF from about 6:00am to 8:30am maybe 10 times throughout the morning. Then nothing the rest of the day. My wife and family thought I was nuts as well as my regular doctor. Now, at least I know what it is. I wonder what my EP will do? Try to use drugs to treat it or do an ablation given how mild my symptoms are. I think those who responded because I'm really trying to find out as much as I can about this and how it will be treated. > > > Yes that is correct Aflutter is competly treatable. > > C > > > >Ralph, > >That's the impression I've been getting from reading up on > >afib/aflutter, someone else may have a different take on it, > though. > > > > > > > >Is it because it is more curable than A fib? > > > > > >> > Codling > Hornchurch Essex England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Ralph. can you tell me what you feel when you are in a-fib/a- flutter? Does you chest hurt? Pound? Do you feel like you are having a heart attack? Thanks for your response, Debbi because every morning I get these 5 to 20 > second bursts of AF from about 6:00am to 8:30am maybe 10 times > throughout the morning. Then nothing the rest of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 It is nothing more than palpitations. No chest pain. Nothing else- I'm just very aware that my heart rate is elevated and it is beating. When it first started happening I think I may have felt that I was having a heart attack. And the anxiety along with it. Now, I just sit there and try ot count the seconds that it lasts and keep a journal of it so I can show my EP the pattern. One thing that is bizzare though is that my cardiologist said that when I was wearing the Holter Monitor for 48 hours I had one run of 8 minutes where my heart rate was at about 140 BPM and I had no idea that was happening. I feel my pulse all the time now and unless it happens when I'm sleeping then I'm sure it has only lasted for seconds. I can't wait to see the EP in early January to see what he has to say. > > > > > Ralph. can you tell me what you feel when you are in a-fib/a- > flutter? Does you chest hurt? Pound? Do you feel like you are > having a heart attack? > > > Thanks for your response, > Debbi > > > because every morning I get these 5 to 20 > > second bursts of AF from about 6:00am to 8:30am maybe 10 times > > throughout the morning. Then nothing the rest of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Ralph, Thanks for your response to my inquiry. I'm still trying to figure this all out myself. Hope you will report your findings from you appointment in January, will be anxiously awaiting your information. Season's Greetings, Debbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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