Thyroid hormone resistance?

[Guest guest]

Hi there. I have a question about RT3 and thyroid hormone resistance that I

thought someone might be able to help with. My partner has recently (5 months

ago) been put on Armour thyroid. She's been feeling much better, but probably

not 100%. Now with the reformulated armour things have gone downhill a bit, but

that's a different story.

When she had her recent labs done, her T3 was very high and out of the normal

range (I think around 7). The doctor has been good in letting her work out the

dose for herself but was a bit worried about this high value.

Just wondering whether seeing as her T3 was so high and she still had some

symptoms, whether she could be resistant? She hasn't had RT3 tested, but we'll

try and organise that soon. If she was, would the treatment involve adding T3,

or just taking T3? And has this worked for many of you?

Thanks for your help!

Amy

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Hi Amy

It does sound like she could be resistant. How much is she on? If that is the

case then the question becomes, why is she resistant? It could be poor adrenal

function or reverse T3.Sounds like she should get cortisol and RT3 tested. With

those results you can see what type of treatment will work for her. I think Val,

the moderator will chime in-she is an expert!

Good luck!

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> Hi there. I have a question about RT3 and thyroid hormone resistance that I

thought someone might be able to help with. My partner has recently (5 months

ago) been put on Armour thyroid. She's been feeling much better, but probably

not 100%. Now with the reformulated armour things have gone downhill a bit, but

that's a different story.

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> When she had her recent labs done, her T3 was very high and out of the normal

range (I think around 7). The doctor has been good in letting her work out the

dose for herself but was a bit worried about this high value.

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> Just wondering whether seeing as her T3 was so high and she still had some

symptoms, whether she could be resistant? She hasn't had RT3 tested, but we'll

try and organise that soon. If she was, would the treatment involve adding T3,

or just taking T3? And has this worked for many of you?

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> Thanks for your help!

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> Amy

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply.

She was on 3 grains of the old armour (sublingually) and is on 4 grains of the

new armmour (sublingual, crushed with a little bit of sugar to help it

dissolve). She's definitely better, but is still tired (esp in the afternoons)

and a few other things are not quite right.

She doesn't seem to have any of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue, but we might

look into getting her cortisol levels checked at next visit.

Could armour be interfering with her resistance (I heard that the T4 in it

easily converts to RT3, blocking progress). Should she be looking at T3 rather

than a combination of T3/4 for a better recovery?

The other thing we thought of was food allergies causing issues with thyroid

function at receptor level. Do you know much about that?

Thanks for your help, it's all very complicated isn't it!!

Amy

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> > Hi there. I have a question about RT3 and thyroid hormone resistance that I

thought someone might be able to help with. My partner has recently (5 months

ago) been put on Armour thyroid. She's been feeling much better, but probably

not 100%. Now with the reformulated armour things have gone downhill a bit, but

that's a different story.

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> > When she had her recent labs done, her T3 was very high and out of the

normal range (I think around 7). The doctor has been good in letting her work

out the dose for herself but was a bit worried about this high value.

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> > Just wondering whether seeing as her T3 was so high and she still had some

symptoms, whether she could be resistant? She hasn't had RT3 tested, but we'll

try and organise that soon. If she was, would the treatment involve adding T3,

or just taking T3? And has this worked for many of you?

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> > Thanks for your help!

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> > Amy

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amy

It is complicated!!!

If she does have high RT3 in her blood test then she should go off of armour and

go onto T3 only, which will lower her TSH and clear the RT3 from her cell

receptors. This can take a few months.

One thing that happened to me is that when I went on armour I noticed that the

more I raised the dose the more tired I got, almost like an inverse

relationship. I then found out I had RT3, which makes sense because the more T4

I took, the more my body was using it to block the active T3.

I am not sure about the food allergies but some other folks here so, I am sure

they will answer...

Liz

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> > > Hi there. I have a question about RT3 and thyroid hormone resistance that

I thought someone might be able to help with. My partner has recently (5 months

ago) been put on Armour thyroid. She's been feeling much better, but probably

not 100%. Now with the reformulated armour things have gone downhill a bit, but

that's a different story.

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> > > When she had her recent labs done, her T3 was very high and out of the

normal range (I think around 7). The doctor has been good in letting her work

out the dose for herself but was a bit worried about this high value.

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> > > Just wondering whether seeing as her T3 was so high and she still had some

symptoms, whether she could be resistant? She hasn't had RT3 tested, but we'll

try and organise that soon. If she was, would the treatment involve adding T3,

or just taking T3? And has this worked for many of you?

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> > > Thanks for your help!

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> > > Amy

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Liz. We'll get onto those blood tests and see what they show

up.

Cheers

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> > > > Hi there. I have a question about RT3 and thyroid hormone resistance

that I thought someone might be able to help with. My partner has recently (5

months ago) been put on Armour thyroid. She's been feeling much better, but

probably not 100%. Now with the reformulated armour things have gone downhill a

bit, but that's a different story.

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> > > > When she had her recent labs done, her T3 was very high and out of the

normal range (I think around 7). The doctor has been good in letting her work

out the dose for herself but was a bit worried about this high value.

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> > > > Just wondering whether seeing as her T3 was so high and she still had

some symptoms, whether she could be resistant? She hasn't had RT3 tested, but

we'll try and organise that soon. If she was, would the treatment involve adding

T3, or just taking T3? And has this worked for many of you?

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> > > > Thanks for your help!

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> > > > Amy

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Amy!Liz has already given you some great advice on this...  I just wanted to add my 2 cents!  When I first read your note, my first thought was " something's keeping that T3 pooling in the blood instead of going into the cells. "   This is what would make the blood test look so high - yet she's still hypo symptom-wise.  Has she been tracking her temps?  That's a very good indicator as to what might be going on as well...  If you're not familiar with the temp tracking, you take the temps 3 times a day, 3 hours apart (beginning 3 hours after waking) and then average each day's 3 readings...  Then you compare each day's *average* to the next day's average.  If they're more then .2 in variation (the averages from day to day) - she most likely has adrenal issues going on, which definitely will cause what you're experiencing!  Without proper cortisol, the thyroid can't get into the cells and will just pool in the blood.  The *best* way to know, of course, is the saliva cortisol testing, but this will at least give you a head start...!

Best wishes,Jacki

Hi there. I have a question about RT3 and thyroid hormone resistance that I thought someone might be able to help with. My partner has recently (5 months ago) been put on Armour thyroid. She's been feeling much better, but probably not 100%. Now with the reformulated armour things have gone downhill a bit, but that's a different story.

When she had her recent labs done, her T3 was very high and out of the normal range (I think around 7). The doctor has been good in letting her work out the dose for herself but was a bit worried about this high value.

Just wondering whether seeing as her T3 was so high and she still had some symptoms, whether she could be resistant? She hasn't had RT3 tested, but we'll try and organise that soon. If she was, would the treatment involve adding T3, or just taking T3? And has this worked for many of you?

Thanks for your help!

Amy

[Guest guest]

> She's been feeling much better, but probably not 100%. Now with the

reformulated armour things have gone downhill a bit, but that's a different

story.

The reformulation has caused trouble for a significant number of

people, it can be worth trying a different natural thyroid

Nick