Re: Ibuprofen

[Guest guest]

Is ibuprofen contraindicated for diabetics? I think I vaguely remember

reading this...but not sure.

I'm having pain in the base of my left thumb for the last five days or so - I

think arthritis is finally catching up with me. It's a steady, dull ache and

is somewhat disabling since I can't grip anything (like using it to hold

tightly shut bottle firmly in order to open it), can't hold anything heavy,

and as related to diabetes, can't use thumb in combination with other finger

to " pinch my inch " in abdomen to get place to give insulin shot.

Now, on a scale of one to ten on pain, it's only a four or so - but it's a

dam nuisance and a friend suggested ibuprofen. Wanted to check and make sure

it's okay for diabetics to take. Help?

Vicki

[Guest guest]

You misunderstood me-- I'm not having pain at my injection site -- I always

shoot in my abdomen because the insulin gets into the system more quickly and

there are many sites with no nerve endings at all. The pain I'm having is in

the base of my left thumb, which prevents me from pinching up a bit of skin

to inject the insulin in my abdomen. I use the right hand to hold the

syringe and shoot the insulin. I'm so strongly right handed that to switch

hands just wouldn't work. Vicki

In a message dated 10/05/2002 9:49:07 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

tatar19@... writes:

> if you take ibuprofen you will be thinning your blood and when you

> inject you and withdraw you can get bleeding at the injection site. i

> know because i take asprin and plavix because coronary disease

> if you rub the area where you inject prior and after the injection it

> eliminates alot of pain. give it a try and let me know ok?

>

>

[Guest guest]

> my inch " in abdomen to get place to give insulin shot.

> >

> > Now, on a scale of one to ten on pain, it's only a four or so -

but

> it's a

> > dam nuisance and a friend suggested ibuprofen. Wanted to check

and

> make sure

> > it's okay for diabetics to take. Help?

> > Vicki

>

> My doc has prescribed it for me for inflammation, and also Alleve.

> That's what he said to take for my shin splints I got playing

> softball last month> C

hristy

hi all

if you take ibuprofen you will be thinning your blood and when you

inject you and withdraw you can get bleeding at the injection site. i

know because i take asprin and plavix because coronary disease

if you rub the area where you inject prior and after the injection it

eliminates alot of pain. give it a try and let me know ok?

[Guest guest]

> Is ibuprofen contraindicated for diabetics? I think I vaguely

remember

> reading this...but not sure.

>

> I'm having pain in the base of my left thumb for the last five days

or so - I

> think arthritis is finally catching up with me. It's a steady,

dull ache and

> is somewhat disabling since I can't grip anything (like using it to

hold

> tightly shut bottle firmly in order to open it), can't hold

anything heavy,

> and as related to diabetes, can't use thumb in combination with

other finger

> to " pinch my inch " in abdomen to get place to give insulin shot.

>

> Now, on a scale of one to ten on pain, it's only a four or so - but

it's a

> dam nuisance and a friend suggested ibuprofen. Wanted to check and

make sure

> it's okay for diabetics to take. Help?

> Vicki

ps also rotate your shots. i use mu butt, legs upper arms stomach

then rotate again. i never need to pinch my thighs or butt upper arms

and im a fat guy!!

i know the pain because i have had it for a few yrs now. try avoiding

too much blood thinning meds. try tylenol first then asprin 325mg a

day for about a couple weeks. my wife is a rn she says ibuprofen can

cause stomach problems!! good luck girl and let me know how yourew

doing

[Guest guest]

I have had thumb joint pain (arthritis) for some years. I have used NSAIDS

but the most effective and longest lasting help is to have an ortho give

you a shot of cortisone in that joint. I have had relief for up to a year

(and I am due for another.)

I don't like using cortisone in my body, but have had no bad response and

only good from the amount injected into my thumb joint.

Good luck!

Jo in Minnesota

At 03:06 PM 10/5/02 EDT, you wrote:

>You misunderstood me-- I'm not having pain at my injection site -- I always

>shoot in my abdomen because the insulin gets into the system more quickly

and

>there are many sites with no nerve endings at all. The pain I'm having is in

>the base of my left thumb, which prevents me from pinching up a bit of skin

>to inject the insulin in my abdomen. I use the right hand to hold the

>syringe and shoot the insulin. I'm so strongly right handed that to switch

>hands just wouldn't work. Vicki

>

[Guest guest]

Tylenol is more toxic to the liver then ibuprofen so I would say

ibuprofen is better and it does help alot when there is inflamation.

Just have a little something in your tummy before you take it. Terri

- In diabetes_int@y..., whimsy2@a... wrote:

> Is ibuprofen contraindicated for diabetics? I think I vaguely

remember

> reading this...but not sure.

>

> I'm having pain in the base of my left thumb for the last five days

or so - I

> think arthritis is finally catching up with me. It's a steady,

dull ache and

> is somewhat disabling since I can't grip anything (like using it to

hold

> tightly shut bottle firmly in order to open it), can't hold

anything heavy,

> and as related to diabetes, can't use thumb in combination with

other finger

> to " pinch my inch " in abdomen to get place to give insulin shot.

>

> Now, on a scale of one to ten on pain, it's only a four or so - but

it's a

> dam nuisance and a friend suggested ibuprofen. Wanted to check and

make sure

> it's okay for diabetics to take. Help?

> Vicki

[Guest guest]

At 08:32 AM 10/5/2002, you wrote:

>Is ibuprofen contraindicated for diabetics? I think I vaguely remember

>reading this...but not sure.

>

>Now, on a scale of one to ten on pain, it's only a four or so - but it's a

>dam nuisance and a friend suggested ibuprofen. Wanted to check and make sure

>it's okay for diabetics to take. Help?

>Vicki

Hi Vicki,

I'm behind in my e-mail, so you probably already have answers to this. Here

are a few sites and comments:

http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/drugdb/068.html

When taken with oral hypoglycemics, ibuprofen can potentiate hypoglycemic

effects because of the influence of prostaglandins on glucose metabolism.

Little is known, however, about a drug-drug interaction between NSAIDs and

oral hypoglycemics.

http://www.drugs.com/Ibuprofen/

What other drugs will affect ibuprofen?

- Other prescription and over-the-counter drugs may increase the effects

of ibuprofen and cause dangerous side effects. Tell your doctor if you are

taking any of the following drugs:

...·an oral diabetes medication such as glipizide (Glucotrol) or

glyburide (Micronase, Diabeta);

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a682159.html

Before taking ibuprofen,

tell your doctor and pharmacist what prescription and nonprescription

medications you are taking, especially anticoagulants ('blood thinners')

such as warfarin (Coumadin), aspirin, atenolol (Tenormin), carteolol

(Cartrol), cyclosporine (Neoral, Sandimmune), digoxin (Lanoxin), diuretics

('water pills'), labetalol (Normodyne, Trandate), lithium (Eskalith,

Lithobid), medications for arthritis or diabetes, methotrexate, metoprolol

(Lopressor), nadolol (Corgard), phenytoin (Dilantin), probenecid (Benemid),

and vitamins. Do not take aspirin or acetaminophen when using ibuprofen

unless directed to do so by your doctor.

So it seems that the concern is drug interaction with Oral Meds. I didn't

find any warnings anywhere indicating a problem of any kind with insulin.

Rick

[Guest guest]

Vicki wrote:

<< Is ibuprofen contraindicated for diabetics? >>

Ibuprofen is great for soft tissue pain (think menstrual cramps, dental

pain). I don't think of arthritis as soft tissue pain. Any meds (including

supplements) we take in can be hard on our kidneys and livers. Aspirin is

great for inflammation, but beware of unusual bleeding from overly-thinning

the blood, such as bruising and gut pain. I have no experience with Tylenol.

My sister, who has had severe rheumatoid arthritis for a third of a century

and has tried every experimental drug and procedure (with unfortunate

consequences in many cases), swears by aspirin.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Ibuprofen may be hard on kidneys, but it is much more

liver-friendly than Tylenol. You have to decide the

tradeoffs yourself, based on everything you know about your

own body and genetic predisposition. I take so many meds

that the liver is working overtime, so I hate to add Tylenol

to its load. Also, straight Tylenol doesn't do diddlysquat

for me; Vicodin is another story :@)

I have tried just about every NSAID there is at different

times, and have found that (for me) Advil Liquigels are the

most effective, fastest acting, and least disturbing to my

gut. It really is amazing the difference between the

liquigels and the regular tablets or caplets. 3 Advil

Liquigels (eq to 600 mg ibuprofen) is more effective for me

than Vioxx!

And yes, NSAIDS are used for joint pain as well as soft

tissue pain.

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