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In a message dated 12/10/2003 11:46:40 AM Central Standard Time,

trudyjh@... writes:

I moved from California to the East a couple of months ago, and twice

in the past few days put myself into afib by shoveling snow. So now

I am looking at what to do to avoid this. Excuse this only semi-afib-

related question - I know nothing about snow blowers. Can anyone

tell me what they are like to use - do you have to push them or are

they self-propelled? The former woud probably cause a problem. The

ones I've found on the web seem to be either huge, heavy gas ones or

small electric ones, and I don't know if the latter would clear away

say eighteen nches of snow.

Any info appreciated

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For 18 inches of snow you will need a huge one. You can get a self propelled,

electric start blower which is probably what you need. You probably should

get a 2-stage blower also, this has seperately driven augers and throwers. The

auger feeds the snow to the thrower and as you might expect the thrower throws

the snow.

Eighteen inches of snow is a BIG snow I doubt you will encounter that much

snow very often. You may get drifts that high though. I think if you get a snow

intake height of 18 inches that would do.

Have fun.

Guy in Iowa

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I have a big Ariens gas. It is self propelled but it put me into afib

the night after I used it last week.

Edgar

trudyjhagain wrote:

>I moved from California to the East a couple of months ago, and twice

>in the past few days put myself into afib by shoveling snow. So now

>I am looking at what to do to avoid this. Excuse this only semi-afib-

>related question - I know nothing about snow blowers. Can anyone

>tell me what they are like to use - do you have to push them or are

>they self-propelled? The former woud probably cause a problem. The

>ones I've found on the web seem to be either huge, heavy gas ones or

>small electric ones, and I don't know if the latter would clear away

>say eighteen nches of snow.

>

>Any info appreciated.

>

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Guy - Where in Iowa ?

Thor in Clive (Des Moines)

Re: afib and shoveling snow (quiestion about snow

blowers)

In a message dated 12/10/2003 11:46:40 AM Central Standard Time,

trudyjh@... writes:

I moved from California to the East a couple of months ago, and twice

in the past few days put myself into afib by shoveling snow. So now

I am looking at what to do to avoid this. Excuse this only semi-afib-

related question - I know nothing about snow blowers. Can anyone

tell me what they are like to use - do you have to push them or are

they self-propelled? The former woud probably cause a problem. The

ones I've found on the web seem to be either huge, heavy gas ones or

small electric ones, and I don't know if the latter would clear away

say eighteen nches of snow.

Any info appreciated

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

For 18 inches of snow you will need a huge one. You can get a self propelled,

electric start blower which is probably what you need. You probably should

get a 2-stage blower also, this has seperately driven augers and throwers. The

auger feeds the snow to the thrower and as you might expect the thrower throws

the snow.

Eighteen inches of snow is a BIG snow I doubt you will encounter that much

snow very often. You may get drifts that high though. I think if you get a

snow

intake height of 18 inches that would do.

Have fun.

Guy in Iowa

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Edgar: I have big " gas " too..........LOL! (sorry, I just couldn't

resist)

> I have a big Ariens gas. It is self propelled but it put me into

afib the night after I used it last week.

>

> Edgar

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In a message dated 12/10/2003 7:57:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tk_wascow@... writes:

For 18 inches of snow you will need a huge one. You can get a self

propelled,

electric start blower which is probably what you need. You probably should

get a 2-stage blower also, this has seperately driven augers and throwers.

The

auger feeds the snow to the thrower and as you might expect the thrower

throws

the snow.

Eighteen inches of snow is a BIG snow I doubt you will encounter that much

snow very often. You may get drifts that high though. I think if you get a

snow

intake height of 18 inches that would do

Honda usually makes excellent snowblowers-If you cannot afford the price of

the self propelled (definitely much easier than the push type but more

expensive) then you can get a push type 4 stroke 21 inch (you can get them with

an

electric starter) for a lower price-When it comes to snowblowers you get what

you

pay for, don't look for bargains or off brands-jerry

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Trudy,

I live in the Boston area, and we get a fair amount of snow each year. I use

an MTD

8 hp, 24 " wide model. It has 6 speeds forward and 2 reverse. We bought it at

Home Depot or Lowe's a few years back. It handles anything we get. From

powder to the wet stuff. It is electric start and self propelled. There is a

local

service dealer in the area also.

Rich O

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Debbi, you are a gas!

Edgar (big) O wen

:-)

Debbi wrote:

>Edgar: I have big " gas " too..........LOL! (sorry, I just couldn't

>resist)

>

>

>

>>I have a big Ariens gas. It is self propelled but it put me into

>>

>>

>afib the night after I used it last week.

>

>

>>

>>Edgar

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In a message dated 12/12/2003 9:10:16 AM Central Standard Time,

trudyjh@... writes:

I wonder what it is about shoveling snow that is such a stress, not

only for afib but for heart attacks. I did pace myself. Maybe it is

something about the bending, which for me is an afib problem also.

Maybe that gets the vagus nerve, or something to do with blood

pressure.

Trudy

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My freind told me just this Wed that one of the causes of heart attack while

shoveling snow is that the heart gets compressed while bending over and

straining to lift the shovel. This compression can restrict blood flow in the

heart

which agravates any heart blood vessel restrictions you may already have.

One of those shovels with the funny looking bent handles that are supposed to

be better for the back might help this.

Guy

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> I have a big Ariens gas. It is self propelled but it put me into

afib

> the night after I used it last week.

>

> Edgar

That's somewhat demoralizing. I wonder if the stress of any activity

in very cold weather is a problem. The second time I went into

afib from shoveling I had hardly done any shoveling, although i am

always more " fragile " when I've had afib recently, and the prior

shoveling episode was just two days before. Maybe the cold works teh

same way cold drinks can trigger a peoblem.

Anyway, I am now looking into heated driveway stuff. It is quite a

small driveway, so that might be a reasonable cost alternative.

I wonder what it is about shoveling snow that is such a stress, not

only for afib but for heart attacks. I did pace myself. Maybe it is

something about the bending, which for me is an afib problem also.

Maybe that gets the vagus nerve, or something to do with blood

pressure.

Trudy

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Trudy et al - Why not just try to find some local kid to shovel your driveway.

Couldn't cost much. Best to make arrangements before it snows I would bet.

Having said that, I haven't tried it myself. I mostly see the kids parent out

doing their own driveway.

Ed

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> Trudy et al - Why not just try to find some local kid to shovel

your driveway. Couldn't cost much. Best to make arrangements before

it snows I would bet. Having said that, I haven't tried it myself.

I mostly see the kids parent out doing their own driveway.

> Ed

>

Hi, Ed,

I'm out in the boonies, and there aren't any kids around of

the appropriate age. Also the driveway is too small for a

private plower to really get in there. It's so small (two car garage

about ten or twelve feet to the street) that you'd think I could

shovel it myself, but as I found out, that's not the case for a big

snowfall.

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