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In a message dated 8/1/02 7:52:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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> . I am very excited and I am

> driving my family crazy. It is all I can talk about.

Welcome Lori~

This is the place to come! Come share, come ask questions, come and

join in . . .we are here for you! Then you'll be able to really drive your

family crazy <G>

{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Elaine in Maine

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Hi, , welcome to the group. I hope you've also checked out

obesityhelp.com, there's a wonderful amount of information there, too.

Each doc is different, and a lot of their responses are going to be

based on their knowledge. Mine is definitely a " minimalist " when it

comes to medical care, so her response was positive, but she really

preferred I do something less invasive, like the Gastric band. And on

the way out she was telling me about a diet center in town she thought

was very good. Just didn't get it at all - if diets worked, I'd be thin,

for sure! <G>

Pam in Niceville

preop

Lap RNY 11/20/02

Dr. Champion/Atlanta

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HELLO EVERYBODY. I AM NEW TO THE GROUP (8/14/02- 9:45A.M) AND

THINKING VERY SERIOUSLY ABOUT HAVING THE WLS. I AM 35 YEARS OLD 5'9

AND 285LBS. I HAVE SCHEDULED A CONSULTATION WITH MY DOCOTOR, BUT

AFRAID THAT SHE WILL NOT SUPPORT WLS. WHAT WERE SOME OF YOUR

EXPERIENCES? WHAT CAN I EXPECT REGARDING GETTING INS APPROVAL, COST,

POST OP, LONG TERM. I AM VERY INSPIRED BY YOUR MESSAGES.

SABRINA

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My doctor, the first one, was not quiet supportive of the surgery, she was

worried about the after effects and such. One of the nurses in the office had it

done, and she was surprised by the results and began to look more into it. By

the time she left for maternity leave last year she was all for the surgery. My

doctor now that took over my case seemed happy with my choice of the surgery and

has been pleased with the results. Alot of the insurance approval depends on

what type of insurance you have and stuff. I had medicaid, and it took like

eight weeks to get approved. Getting back to work and stuff depends on how fast

you recoup. Most take six to eight weeks.

sabrina5482002 wrote:HELLO EVERYBODY. I AM NEW TO THE GROUP (8/14/02- 9:45A.M)

AND

THINKING VERY SERIOUSLY ABOUT HAVING THE WLS. I AM 35 YEARS OLD 5'9

AND 285LBS. I HAVE SCHEDULED A CONSULTATION WITH MY DOCOTOR, BUT

AFRAID THAT SHE WILL NOT SUPPORT WLS. WHAT WERE SOME OF YOUR

EXPERIENCES? WHAT CAN I EXPECT REGARDING GETTING INS APPROVAL, COST,

POST OP, LONG TERM. I AM VERY INSPIRED BY YOUR MESSAGES.

SABRINA

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Kate, where in California are you?

in Sacramento

Surgery Sept. 16

Dr. in Burlingame

s.w. 380

c.w. 316

goal 130

5'2 "

" The easiest thing to be in the world is you.

The most difficult thing to be is what other people want you to be.

Don't let them put you in that position. "

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hiya sabrina, welcome to the group. lots of wonderful people here.

i had open rny 6-14-01, 8 days after my 33rd bday. i am 5' 1/4 " and

weighed 268lbs. i was lucky in that my doc recommended the surgery to

me after tried many avenues to lose weight. after my last daughter

was born i weighed around 170 and just kept gaining and gaining even

tho i worked out almost daily. i fell into a depression and the

weight would not come off. i tried weight watchers, redux, phen-fen,

meridia, slim fast, the cabbage soup diet, atkins diet, you name it

so my doc put in the request for referral and 4 mos later i was on

the operating table. seems a lot of ppl tho do not get in as easily

as i did. i have health net of california (hmo) tho they are leaving

the county at the end of the year and currently will not pay for me

to see my surgeon for any more follow ups.

due to the hmo, my out of pocket cost was $10 per doc visit and $200

for the psych eval. i don't know of any insurance that covers the

psych eval. the surgery was like $90,000 (hospital/doctors) but

insurance paid it all.

i've had few complications. at 2 weeks post op i started throwing up

the protein mix, tried a bunch of different kinds finally went onto

soft foods and carnation instant b-fast but had probs with that since

milk doesn't digest well after rny. i found a soy protein powder you

can cook with at 4 mos post op and have used that ever since.

i hit my goal weight shortly after my 1 year anniversary and then

dropped the last five pounds within a few weeks of that. i tend to

waver up then down 2lbs but i don't worry about it.

i work out at least 3x a week on my bowflex and i walk a lot.

my meals center around protein but i allow myself a little " junk " if

i want it.

i take trinsicon (iron w/b-12), multivitamin, b-12 supplement, daily

i would do it again in a minute. please feel free to email me

anytime. i facilitate a wls support group here in california.

good luck to you!!

{{hugs}}

kate

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hi - Welcome to our wonderful group. So glad to have you with us.

The practice of intubation is still used by some doctors. We all have it during

the operation, but most of us wake up with it out. If you have bigtime sleep

apnea or breathing problems, it should make it easier to breathe while the

anesthesia is wearing off. The other tube for 4 days is that that a

naso-gastric tube? I didn't have to have one, but I guess they help keep your

stomach feeling good after surgery. Do you have an angel?

Jeanne in WI

Age 39

Open RNY 05/21/2002

314/ 262 /150-175

5' 8 "

djgraves@...

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an angel calls you before surgery to help calm you and calls

during or after your surgery to see how you are doing and reports back to

the group how you are and just helps you thru

TN

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> Do you have an angel?

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> > Open RNY 05/21/2002

> > 314/ 262 /150-175

> > 5' 8 "

> > djgraves@c...

> I'm not sure what an angel is. I guess that means I don't have one.

> What are they? And by the way, Thanks for your input. It has made me

> slightly nervous about the intubation over night.

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An angel is someone from the group who will check up on you the day of your

surgery and afterwards to report back to the group on your progress.

Jeanne in WI

Age 39

Open RNY 05/21/2002

314/ 262 /150-175

5' 8 "

djgraves@...

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> Hi in San Diego! My name is Tina and I live on the west

> coast of Florida. I had open RNY April 5th, 2002. I was intubated

and

> on the ventilator overnight after my surgery. They have you on

really

> nice drugs during this time, and I honestly don't remember much of

> any time in ICU!!.....

Tina thank you so much for answering. I was beginning to think my

Doctor was crazy. You are the only one that has also had the

intubation overnight, and I can't tell you how much that relieves

some of my anxiety. Thanks so much

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HEY,IT'S ME AGAIN THE LOVERMAN AND I AM ALSO NEW TO

THE GROUP AND I WANTED TO THANK YA'ALL FOR LETTING ME

BE A PART. I ALSO HAVE BEEN OVERWEIGHT DAM NEAR ALL MY

LIFE, TRIED EVERY DIET ANYBODY COULD EVER THINK OF,

EVEN BEEN HOSPITALIZED AND NUTHIN I'VE ALWAYS GAINED

THED THE WEIGHT BACK SO FOR ONCE I'M PRAYIN TO THE MAN

UPSTAIRS AND I'M HOPING HE'LL LET ME DO THIS FOR ME.

SOME MORE ABOUT ME I'M 6'6 AND I'M 30 YEARS OLD ABOUT

LIKE 400-450LBS HAVE MULTIPLE HEALTH PROBLEMS AND THIS

SURGERY WILL JELP IF NOT GET RID OF THEM. MY REASONING

FOR BEING HERE IS THAT I NEEDED SOME SUPPORT AND I

WANTED TO MEET OTHERS IN MY SITUATION. I HOPE I'LL GET

SOME FEEDBACK FROM THIS E-MAIL.

LOVERMAN

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Where are you? Who's the doc?

Thanks,

Vitalady T

www.vitalady.com

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HEY,IT'S ME AGAIN THE LOVERMAN AND I AM ALSO NEW TO

THE GROUP AND I WANTED TO THANK YA'ALL FOR LETTING ME

BE A PART. I ALSO HAVE BEEN OVERWEIGHT DAM NEAR ALL MY

LIFE, TRIED EVERY DIET ANYBODY COULD EVER THINK OF,

EVEN BEEN HOSPITALIZED AND NUTHIN I'VE ALWAYS GAINED

THED THE WEIGHT BACK SO FOR ONCE I'M PRAYIN TO THE MAN

UPSTAIRS AND I'M HOPING HE'LL LET ME DO THIS FOR ME.

SOME MORE ABOUT ME I'M 6'6 AND I'M 30 YEARS OLD ABOUT

LIKE 400-450LBS HAVE MULTIPLE HEALTH PROBLEMS AND THIS

SURGERY WILL JELP IF NOT GET RID OF THEM. MY REASONING

FOR BEING HERE IS THAT I NEEDED SOME SUPPORT AND I

WANTED TO MEET OTHERS IN MY SITUATION. I HOPE I'LL GET

SOME FEEDBACK FROM THIS E-MAIL.

LOVERMAN

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Welcome Terri. Glad to have you with us. We have another Terry in TX, too.

You don't have to wait until you know for sure that you are having the surgery.

Just showing an interest in the surgery is enough for us. We will keep you in

our prayers that everything goes through with your approval. It's going to be

the beginning of a whole new life for you. Now is the time to try some protein

samples from www.vitalady.com. You can buy a one serving sample to try without

investing in a whole big can of protein powder. Keep us posted as to your

progress.

Jeanne in WI

Age 39

Open RNY 05/21/2002

314/ 262 /150-175

5' 8 "

djgraves@...

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Chad I had to be on clear liquid 1 week and full liquid 1 week and puree two

weeks and then on to soft and regular food all DR's are different

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> ty linda, i am a very tall man and there aren't very

> many people around that i find that r taller, my girl

> is at least a foot shorter then me. My only question

> right now is about how long is it after the suurgery

> that one would have to stay on a liquid diet

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I don't remember what the info was LMAO I answer so many of these but glad I

could help

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> ty for the info linda, apreciate it

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I sure wish you luck and I would suggest ASAP got o www.vitalady.com and

order some protein samples and find what you like as far as protein goes

,she also has some wonderful reading on the site . I am glad you are here

also and hope you will stay with us

TN

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> Hello

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> I am glad to see others from TN on the list. My doctor is Dr. he

is

> in with Dr. Husted and they operate at Baptist hospital. Both seem to be

> wonderful drs.

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> The waiting is killing me! just to know which way the ins is going will be

a

> gift!

>

> Sherry

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This was for Sherry TN sorry z

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> > Hello

> >

> > I am glad to see others from TN on the list. My doctor is Dr.

he

> is

> > in with Dr. Husted and they operate at Baptist hospital. Both seem to be

> > wonderful drs.

> >

> > The waiting is killing me! just to know which way the ins is going will

be

> a

> > gift!

> >

> > Sherry

> >

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> > To Subscribe to 's weekly FREE Newsletter send an email to

> GBCookbook-subscribe@...

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linda, when should i start taking the vitamins and

drinking the protein shakes. I hope i'm not annoying

everyone with all theese questions but i've never been

through anything like this and i want/need as much

information and support i can get.

loverman

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Hi. I am also new to the group, but not to low carb eating. I think we have all been down that path--I'll start tomorrow, or next week, or after my birthday. There's always some excuse! I agree, the Holidays can be really rough, but I don't remember seeing anything in the book that says everyone must absolutely start with Phase 1.

DH and I started the South Beach in Feb. 2004, due to major concerns about his health. Previously, whenever I needed to lose a few (usually that same ten pounds!) I would eat similar to the South Beach, so it was easy for me to adapt. I have not regained that ten, after losing it again, and DH has lost 40+ so far, with a total goal of 60. We started on phase 2, and have only added back a bit--more fruit, whole wheat pasta, baked tortilla chips once in a while. We have both gotten serious about going to the gym, and are losing inches as well.

If you can't commit to Phase 1, why not try Phase 2, at least for the majority of the time, until after the holidays. If nothing else, you won't gain anything more, and may even lose a few pounds.

By way of more intro--DH was diagnosed with prostate cancer in Jan. 2004. He is getting excellent treatment, but that includes hormone treatment. The hormones should have added 20 pounds, but instead he has lost more than 40. The hormones could also have triggered diabetes (a family trait) and heart disease. Thanks to the South Beach way of life, his recent tests have all been great! At this time the cancer is in remission, and he is healthier than he has been in years. He is 57, I'm 56.

A favorite around here: Spinach Dip

2 boxes frozen chopped spinach, thawed and drained

8 oz. non-fat sour cream

8 oz. non-fat mozarella, shredded

Blend and microwave to hot. Great with broccoli, or those once in a while chips.

Kris--FL

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Hi everyone,

My name is and I'm new to the group. My plan is to start

reading the book this weekend, but I'm going to wait until after New

Year's to start the program. I feel there are too many temptations

at the moment to do this successfully. I hear the first two weeks

are the hardest so I don't want to sabotage myself by trying to do

them during the holiday. Does this make sense or am I making

excuses?

I am really looking forward to starting the program and would love

any and all support and advice as I travel this road.

Thanks, and I look forward to meeting all of you!

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My opinion is that you can still gain quite a bit between now and the new year that you will have to lose. I think you should start now. I think everyone looks for reasons to put it off. If you were to start now, you would be done with phase one well before Xmas and can have a week to add back in things and see how your body reacts. You may not even want any of the goodies on xmas. Your tastes will most likely change by then. I know there are temptations but what's more important, your health or the goodies. Just a thought. :) Carol

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Hi everyone,My name is and I'm new to the group. My plan is to start reading the book this weekend, but I'm going to wait until after New Year's to start the program. I feel there are too many temptations at the moment to do this successfully. I hear the first two weeks are the hardest so I don't want to sabotage myself by trying to do them during the holiday. Does this make sense or am I making excuses?I am really looking forward to starting the program and would love any and all support and advice as I travel this road. Thanks, and I look forward to meeting all of you!Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this WOE please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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I agree with Carol. I specifically started on Monday so I would be

done with Phase 1 by the couple holiday parties I am going to. I

plan on bringing yummy SBD dishes to every place I go!! Now instead

of packing on 10 more pounds by New Years, I plan on having at least

10 less!!

I do understand the decision to wait though- I just knew it would

only spell trouble for me!

Margi < -- just started on Monday and down 3 already (I know I

shouldn't weigh yet and it's prob just water weight-but still!)

> My opinion is that you can still gain quite a bit between now and

the new year that you will have to lose. I think you should start

now. I think everyone looks for reasons to put it off. If you were to

start now, you would be done with phase one well before Xmas and can

have a week to add back in things and see how your body reacts. You

may not even want any of the goodies on xmas. Your tastes will most

likely change by then. I know there are temptations but what's more

important, your health or the goodies. Just a thought. :) Carol

> New to the Group

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> My name is and I'm new to the group. My plan is to

start

> reading the book this weekend, but I'm going to wait until after

New

> Year's to start the program. I feel there are too many

temptations

> at the moment to do this successfully. I hear the first two

weeks

> are the hardest so I don't want to sabotage myself by trying to

do

> them during the holiday. Does this make sense or am I making

> excuses?

>

> I am really looking forward to starting the program and would

love

> any and all support and advice as I travel this road.

>

> Thanks, and I look forward to meeting all of you!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-

fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and

the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily

without the bad carbs and bad fats.

>

> For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur

Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

>

>

>

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Hello ....

I think you're wise to wait til January. We'll all still be here then.

I've been on SB since August, but have put it on a hiatus til Jan 1.

Don't anybody fear I'm gonna go out of control. No, I'm just vowed to

keep stable.

Steve

> Hi everyone,

>

> My name is and I'm new to the group. My plan is to start

> reading the book this weekend, but I'm going to wait until after

New

> Year's to start the program. I feel there are too many temptations

> at the moment to do this successfully. I hear the first two weeks

> are the hardest so I don't want to sabotage myself by trying to do

> them during the holiday. Does this make sense or am I making

> excuses?

>

> I am really looking forward to starting the program and would love

> any and all support and advice as I travel this road.

>

> Thanks, and I look forward to meeting all of you!

>

>

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Hi ,

I guess when you start is really up to you. However, I would read the book

right now, regardless. It opens your eyes to foods that are good for you

and ones that aren't. Take note of foods that are " allowed " and ones that

are " ok " and ones that are " verboten " . Learn to recognize, even if you

don't follow it for awhile, that the food you're putting into your body can

be good for it or less good, depending.

For instance, when you go to sit down for a meal at Christmas, let's say

you have ham, mashed potatoes, green beans, corn, a bun, and a glass of

wine. Out of this, only the ham, green beans, and wine are SBD

friendly. The others are not, especially the mashed potatoes. You can eat

all of it, just start being aware of it. I guarantee it'll make you think

twice about grabbing a second bun, even if you already ate one of

them. And having active, discerning thoughts about your food is a GREAT

way to get going and keep going on this diet.

Too many times people don't pay attention to what they stick in their

mouths, they just go with whatever is tasty and handy. SBD, if nothing

else, has taught me to think about it much more than I ever used to.

I agree that there are a lot of temptations around the holidays. But that

doesn't mean you can't start to think about your food and perhaps watch it

on the " big and bad " ones.

Good luck!

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