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When Carl was younger he had two episodes where he seemed weaker and less

coordinated on one side and that side of his face would droop to where when

he smiled only one side of his mouth would go up (the neuro referred to it

as a palsy of the 7th cranial nerve). The facial thing lasted for a couple

of months. Usually when it's a cranial nerve the eye will also appear to be

open wider than the other.

He was in a little slump a couple of months ago and the facial droop

happened again but didn't last as long.

I just wanted to let you know that somebody else has seen this! :)

Terri

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>Subject: Re: - worsening disease

>Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 02:39:38 -0400

>

>Hi,

>

>You know, after seeing your post, before mito was suspected in my son, he

>too limped for several days and then it just stopped - now we are looking

>at

>mito - I often noticed a slight facial change in my son also from time to

>time that the docs thought I was imagining (like a lowering on one side of

>eye and mouth muscles).

>

>Wonder who else sees this?

>

>karen h

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l, When your son lost his muscle tone what were the signs if any .

I'm verry worried about my son limp and dragging his leg ,he's done it four

times and has lasted for a few days at a time. thank you Vange

Re: - worsening disease

> ,

>

> The hardest thing that I have had to learn about Mito is that none of our

> cases are exactly like the others. Our 9 year old son was diagnosed last

July

> and initially I thought that someone had to have the exact same story, but

I

> was wrong. It truly is an individuallistic disease.

>

> Our son was a typical ADHD child who was intellectually gifted. By the

time

> he was two he was learning to read and by 3 was sounding out words. By the

> time he was in Kindergarten he was reading on a 3rd grade level and doing

1st

> grade math. But, he could not play with peers, could not make eye contact

and

> had the social skills of a 2 year old. He was then diagnosed with

Asperger's

> Syndrome (high Functioning autism). He didn't develop any neurological

> symptons until just before his 7th birthday. Then his seizures began. By

the

> time he was 8 he had developed multiple types of seizures, regressed

> tremendously academically, lost muscle tone and became very ataxic. He had

> sleep apnea which caused severe aggression and hyperactivity. It was a

> nightmere. Last July he had a fresh muscle biopsy which confirmed Complex

1

> Deficiency.

>

> When I first got the diagnosis I searched the internet and was depressed.

The

> first 2 or 3 websites I found were dedicated to children who had passed

away.

> I shut down the computer and cried for 1 whole day. Then I found Ken

Hirsch's

> site (Thanks Ken :) and although parts of it are so sad to read, it was

like

> a light. That mito doesn't mean the end.

>

> Since then has been put on multiple supplements, he is on the

Ketogenic

> Diet for his seizures as well as a medication called Felbamate. But, he is

> doing well for . He has regained all his academic skills, taught

himself

> to ride his two wheeler again (even though it is a little wobbly), and

best

> of all he has taught us to adapt to his needs. I like to think of this as

a

> good period in his life. Yes, he still has to wear a helmet and

occasionally

> use a wheelchair (for fatique). And his social skills are still half his

> chronological age, but compared to where he was a year ago, life is good.

My

> point being, neurological deterioration isn't always irreversable.

>

> I think that what has changed is our perspective on how he is doing. We

don't

> look at the disease as a " death sentence " anymore. Now we are learning how

to

> get on with life and live with the disease. I don't see him as a

> " chronically ill child " anymore. I know see him as a " child " who is

> chronically ill.

>

> I am fortunate enough to have a great support group which has helped us

> tremendously. This list is full of people with different experiences and

tons

> of knowledge. They have helped me in understanding the neverending list of

> weird things about mito disorders.

>

> Take care,

> Laurel

>

>

>

>

>

> Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

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> l, When your son lost his muscle tone what were the signs if any .

> I'm verry worried about my son limp and dragging his leg ,he's done it

four

> times and has lasted for a few days at a time. thank you Vange

Somewhere in the back of my mind it's telling me this might be carnitine

deficiency - has that been checked?

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Hi,

You know, after seeing your post, before mito was suspected in my son, he

too limped for several days and then it just stopped - now we are looking at

mito - I often noticed a slight facial change in my son also from time to

time that the docs thought I was imagining (like a lowering on one side of

eye and mouth muscles).

Wonder who else sees this?

karen h

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To: <Mitoegroups>

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 11:11 PM

Subject: Re: - worsening disease

> l, When your son lost his muscle tone what were the signs if any .

> I'm verry worried about my son limp and dragging his leg ,he's done it

four

> times and has lasted for a few days at a time. thank you Vange

> Re: - worsening disease

>

>

> > ,

> >

> > The hardest thing that I have had to learn about Mito is that none of

our

> > cases are exactly like the others. Our 9 year old son was diagnosed last

> July

> > and initially I thought that someone had to have the exact same story,

but

> I

> > was wrong. It truly is an individuallistic disease.

> >

> > Our son was a typical ADHD child who was intellectually gifted. By the

> time

> > he was two he was learning to read and by 3 was sounding out words. By

the

> > time he was in Kindergarten he was reading on a 3rd grade level and

doing

> 1st

> > grade math. But, he could not play with peers, could not make eye

contact

> and

> > had the social skills of a 2 year old. He was then diagnosed with

> Asperger's

> > Syndrome (high Functioning autism). He didn't develop any neurological

> > symptons until just before his 7th birthday. Then his seizures began. By

> the

> > time he was 8 he had developed multiple types of seizures, regressed

> > tremendously academically, lost muscle tone and became very ataxic. He

had

> > sleep apnea which caused severe aggression and hyperactivity. It was a

> > nightmere. Last July he had a fresh muscle biopsy which confirmed

Complex

> 1

> > Deficiency.

> >

> > When I first got the diagnosis I searched the internet and was

depressed.

> The

> > first 2 or 3 websites I found were dedicated to children who had passed

> away.

> > I shut down the computer and cried for 1 whole day. Then I found Ken

> Hirsch's

> > site (Thanks Ken :) and although parts of it are so sad to read, it was

> like

> > a light. That mito doesn't mean the end.

> >

> > Since then has been put on multiple supplements, he is on the

> Ketogenic

> > Diet for his seizures as well as a medication called Felbamate. But, he

is

> > doing well for . He has regained all his academic skills, taught

> himself

> > to ride his two wheeler again (even though it is a little wobbly), and

> best

> > of all he has taught us to adapt to his needs. I like to think of this

as

> a

> > good period in his life. Yes, he still has to wear a helmet and

> occasionally

> > use a wheelchair (for fatique). And his social skills are still half his

> > chronological age, but compared to where he was a year ago, life is

good.

> My

> > point being, neurological deterioration isn't always irreversable.

> >

> > I think that what has changed is our perspective on how he is doing. We

> don't

> > look at the disease as a " death sentence " anymore. Now we are learning

how

> to

> > get on with life and live with the disease. I don't see him as a

> > " chronically ill child " anymore. I know see him as a " child " who is

> > chronically ill.

> >

> > I am fortunate enough to have a great support group which has helped us

> > tremendously. This list is full of people with different experiences and

> tons

> > of knowledge. They have helped me in understanding the neverending list

of

> > weird things about mito disorders.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Laurel

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

> affected by mitochondrial disease.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

> Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

>

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thanks terry!

karen h

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> >Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 02:39:38 -0400

> >

> >Hi,

> >

> >You know, after seeing your post, before mito was suspected in my son,

he

> >too limped for several days and then it just stopped - now we are looking

> >at

> >mito - I often noticed a slight facial change in my son also from time to

> >time that the docs thought I was imagining (like a lowering on one side

of

> >eye and mouth muscles).

> >

> >Wonder who else sees this?

> >

> >karen h

>

>

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All,

my son (diagnosed autism, possible mito connection) has done this

'neuropathy', dragging right foot, making sure of his footing before putting

weight on his foot. The first time was after a strep infection that was

treated with antibiotics(he was 4 then, just turned 7). After that it

flared up for several weeks at a time. This went on for almost 2 years

until we started a supplement called sphingolin - myelin basic protein. He

tested positive for antibodies against his own myelin prior to that strep

infection, but I did not start the sphingolin for over a year. He has only

had one small bout of this neuropathy since then - during phase where he was

cutting his first two permanent teeth.

He could not communicate with me during the first few episodes, but the last

few episodes he told me his foot was on fire, that his hands and feet were

broken, even though he continued to use them normally, except for the

drag/sure footing stuff.

He recently developed winged scapulas. The neuro has suspected a form of

muscular dystrophy or mito involvement.

The first neuropathy episode he also would not use the palms of his hands,

but would pick stuff up with the backs of his hands. This was only during

the first flare-up, even though he complained they were broken during the

most recent epiosde when he was teething, he did not display any symptoms

that his hands hurt at that time.

cara

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> >

> >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > The hardest thing that I have had to learn about Mito is that none of

> our

> > > cases are exactly like the others. Our 9 year old son was diagnosed

last

> > July

> > > and initially I thought that someone had to have the exact same story,

> but

> > I

> > > was wrong. It truly is an individuallistic disease.

> > >

> > > Our son was a typical ADHD child who was intellectually gifted. By the

> > time

> > > he was two he was learning to read and by 3 was sounding out words. By

> the

> > > time he was in Kindergarten he was reading on a 3rd grade level and

> doing

> > 1st

> > > grade math. But, he could not play with peers, could not make eye

> contact

> > and

> > > had the social skills of a 2 year old. He was then diagnosed with

> > Asperger's

> > > Syndrome (high Functioning autism). He didn't develop any

neurological

> > > symptons until just before his 7th birthday. Then his seizures began.

By

> > the

> > > time he was 8 he had developed multiple types of seizures, regressed

> > > tremendously academically, lost muscle tone and became very ataxic. He

> had

> > > sleep apnea which caused severe aggression and hyperactivity. It was a

> > > nightmere. Last July he had a fresh muscle biopsy which confirmed

> Complex

> > 1

> > > Deficiency.

> > >

> > > When I first got the diagnosis I searched the internet and was

> depressed.

> > The

> > > first 2 or 3 websites I found were dedicated to children who had

passed

> > away.

> > > I shut down the computer and cried for 1 whole day. Then I found Ken

> > Hirsch's

> > > site (Thanks Ken :) and although parts of it are so sad to read, it

was

> > like

> > > a light. That mito doesn't mean the end.

> > >

> > > Since then has been put on multiple supplements, he is on the

> > Ketogenic

> > > Diet for his seizures as well as a medication called Felbamate. But,

he

> is

> > > doing well for . He has regained all his academic skills, taught

> > himself

> > > to ride his two wheeler again (even though it is a little wobbly), and

> > best

> > > of all he has taught us to adapt to his needs. I like to think of this

> as

> > a

> > > good period in his life. Yes, he still has to wear a helmet and

> > occasionally

> > > use a wheelchair (for fatique). And his social skills are still half

his

> > > chronological age, but compared to where he was a year ago, life is

> good.

> > My

> > > point being, neurological deterioration isn't always irreversable.

> > >

> > > I think that what has changed is our perspective on how he is doing.

We

> > don't

> > > look at the disease as a " death sentence " anymore. Now we are learning

> how

> > to

> > > get on with life and live with the disease. I don't see him as a

> > > " chronically ill child " anymore. I know see him as a " child " who is

> > > chronically ill.

> > >

> > > I am fortunate enough to have a great support group which has helped

us

> > > tremendously. This list is full of people with different experiences

and

> > tons

> > > of knowledge. They have helped me in understanding the neverending

list

> of

> > > weird things about mito disorders.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Laurel

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

> > affected by mitochondrial disease.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Missing old school friends? Find them here:

> > http://click./1/4055/2/_/368657/_/959401737/

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

> affected by mitochondrial disease.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Missing old school friends? Find them here:

> http://click./1/4055/2/_/368657/_/959409783/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

>

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Hi my name is . I just thought it was a coincidence your son was

talking about his left foot. About a month ago before my daughter stopped

walking she complained of her left leg hurting and that her foot hurt. I had

come home from work one night and she was not using it. She wouldn't climb

stairs or put weight on her foot. This has always seemed strange to me i

don't understand it. Even to this day when i ask her why she wont walk she

says her feet hurt(she also has balance issues due to the seizures she has).

Is your son still walking? Do these flare ups come and go? I'm praying this

is just a flare up and my daughter will start walking by herself again. Hang

in there and i hope the best for you and your family.

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