Guest guest Posted December 13, 1999 Report Share Posted December 13, 1999 First let me say thanks to Ben, Joe et.al for your encouragement on this thing. The day that I read about the Supreme Court's decision not to hear the Warner case, a very empty feeling came over me that lasted all day. They could have made the entire country 12-step-free but chose not to. Surely they must know that there are and will be more complaints coming up the pipe--burdening the tax payers with expensive litigation. Surely they must know that only a fool could believe that AA is not religious. Surely they must know that freeing the souls of only three states is a contradiction to the lofty maxim which adorns their building. But the battle goes on. Ideally I would like to see a case such as Rita's be the final knock-out punch. Rita has been a courageous and winning warrior all along, winning in court, and keeping her career and retirement. And surely she suffered in a way that I probably understand more than most, although no one can ever accurately measure the suffering of another. During the short period of time that I was in U.S. Navy " treatment " I thought that I had somehow had the misfortune to fall into the hands of a rare and bizarrely sadistic ring of people, who together were getting their kicks by tormenting those whose future careers were at the mercy of a thumbs-up or thumbs-down vote. As I looked into the matter further I realized that yes, they were bizarrely sadistic, but no, they were not rare. It is the nature of the beast; truly these people are " governed by bad passions. " What other assessment can one make when reading words like these from Rita: " In fact, I was told point-blank by my treatment counselor (a proud stepper " in recovery " ) that if the God I believed in was insufficient as a " higher power " with which to work the steps, that I *must* find some OTHER " Power " to believe in! " When I read these words I was probably more heart-wrung than most, but less shocked than most, if that makes sense. Yes, it is the nature of the beast; in France Blaise Pascal wrote: " Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. " In England C.S. wrote: " ...but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience...To be 'cured' against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level with those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will. " And during the American Revolution--only about five years after, at age 33, he had drafted that famous letter to King III--Jefferson wrote: " The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg...... Subject opinion to coercion: whom will you make your inquisitors? Fallible men; men governed by bad passions, by private as well as public reasons. And why subject it to coercion? To produce uniformity. But is uniformity of opinion desirable? No more than of face and stature...... What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites ......The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war, will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion. " I drove to Virginia Beach Saturday to photo copy a fresh, suitable-for-scanning copy of v. Liard. Regent University has the closest law library to where I live. I had not been in the place in years, and it brought back memories of all the time I had spent there during the early part of this decade. When I returned home I went into my wheelbarrow size paper files and eventually found what I was looking for to clear my foggy memory on Traynor v. Turnage. In the aftermath of the Supreme Court decision and the release of Herbert Fingarette's " Heavy Drinking: The Myth of Alcoholism as a Disease " , the wacko-stepper magazine, " Alcoholism & Addiction " , published in its July-August 1988 issue an article called " The Fingarette Fallacies " , which included a box article called " Defending the Disease. " To see just how jittery Fingarette made this nasty flock of soul buzzards, consider the following quotes: " In trying to skirt the disease question, Justice White, in rendering the majority opinion of the Court, created an uproar by stating, 'It is not our role to resolve this medical issue on which the authorities are sharply divided.' Sharply divided? We have yet to see a medical authority step forward and present evidence to suggest that alcoholism is not a disease. " " In these times of supposed enlightenment on addictions, it's hard to believe that anyone would take Professor Fingarette seriously. His theories, however, were embraced by members of the Supreme Court, and were the basis for Justice White's remarks about authorities being sharply divided. " " Fingarette is a dangerous man. His writing is extremely convincing to semi-literate readers--to people that know very little about social sciences, science in general, mental disease, or alcoholism. Through one small article in the Harvard Law Review, he has managed to influence the Supreme Court of the United States, and his popularity is apparently increasing. " " If people believe his arguments, Fingarette may cause the number of injuries, deaths, and suffering in general that can result from alcoholism to increase. " The box article is headlined as follows: Once and For All Defending the Disease How America's Authorities View the Disease of Alcoholism It includes photographs of, and short comments by, the following ten people: 1. E. , MD, President-Elect AMA 2. Reagan, then First Lady 3. Jimmy 4. Q. Ford, President NAATP 5. Margaret Bean-Bayog, MD, President AMSAODD 6. G. Talbott,MD, Ridgeview Institute 7. Pastor Schuller, Crystal Cathedral 8. Senator Arlen Spector 9. Betty Ford, On a lofty perch looking down on people as sickos. 10.Otis R. Bowen,MD, Secretary HHS Well, we all know who Talbott is, right? Talbott is Atlanta's heavyweight soul raper who recently got his zealot butt kicked in court to the tune of big bucks. Here is Talbott's comment: " Chemical dependency has been classified as a disease since the time of the American Revolution. So classified by Dr. Rush, a physician, who was one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. We have learned more about these illnesses in the past five years than in the past five hundred years and it is now evident that alcoholism and other drug addictions are truly psycho-social biogenetic diseases, established, verified, no longer a concept but now a precept. " Well gee, if Rush said so then it must be true, right? Lets take a look at Rush, the grand daddy of all Therapeutic State shrinks. As Ken Ragge points out in " The Real AA, " Rush was indeed the first to " define " alcoholism as a disease. Ken references chapter nine of Szasz's " The Manufacture of Madness: A Comparative Study of the Inquisition and the Mental Health Movement. " Szasz devotes an entire chapter to Rush and makes it clear that Rush discovered nothing, he only defined. That has not changed to this day, no discoveries, only definitions--and corruption, " a mere contrivance to filch wealth and power. " One of Jefferson's most famous quotations is engraved in stone at the Jefferson Memorial in Washington and comes from one of his letters written to Rush: " I have sworn upon the alter of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. " http://www.nps.gov/thje/jwrite.htm The letter itself is available through the Cliff links of AA Deprogramming: http://www.aracnet.com/~atheism/hist/jeff1080.htm Jefferson, because of his role in securing religious liberty, was despised by the establishment inclined clergy of his day, and he took no prisoners in his counter-attacks, referring to them as cannibals, mountebanks, false shepherds, charlatans, pious and whining hypocrites, mystery mongers, soothsayers, and more. He once referred to the area surrounding his hometown of Charlottesville as " a Sodom and Gomorrah of parsons. " The Revolution ended, both Jefferson and Rush continued to write prolifically, sometimes to each other, and an interesting series of events would unfold on the other side of the Atlantic. The allegedly " mad " King III was " treated " by the " Rev. " Francis Willis, a rural clergyman who " from motives of principle and charity towards his fellow creatures " had interested himself in the insane. In writing about this " treatment " relationship, Dr. Ida Macalpine and Dr. Hunter stated in their 1967 book, " III and the Mad Business " , " So began the new system of Government of the King by intimidation, coercion, and restraint. No account of the illness from this point on can disregard the King's treatment, and to what extent the turbulence he displayed was provoked by the repressive and punitive methods by which he was ruled. " Of Dr. Rush, the " great " Revolutionary War doctor and signer of the Declaration of Independence, P.M. Ashburn wrote in his " History of the Medical Department of the U.S. Army " , " By virtue of his social and professional prominence, his position as teacher and his facile pen, Rush had more influence upon American medicine and was more potent in the propagation and long perpetuation of medical errors than any man of his day. To him more than to any man in America, was due the great vogue of vomits, purging, and especially of bleeding, salivation and blistering, which blackened the record of medicine and afflicted the sick almost to the time of the Civil War. " On the cold, windy afternoon of December 14, 1799, a horse ridden by 37 year old Dr. Elisha Cullen Dick galloped up the snow covered driveway of Mt. Vernon. He was of a " newer " school of medical thought than the two older doctors who were tending General Washington, and he had been summoned for a more collective opinion. When Dr. Dick arrived the General had already been bled three times. " He needs all of his strength--bleeding will diminish it. " was the iconoclastic young doctor's opinion. His advice was not taken by the two veteran bleeders, Dr. Craik and Dr. Brown. Washington was bled for the fourth time. He died that evening. Craik later wrote Brown that they should have listened to Dick. Had they " taken no more blood from him, our good friend might have been alive now. But we were governed by the best light we had; we thought we were right, and so we are justified. " " It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself. " Jefferson Notes on the State of Virginia (1781) http://www.aracnet.com/~atheism/hist/jeff0283.htm ______________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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