Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Keep in mind that of those 11 million wiht hypothyroidism, probably 10.99 million have HASHIMOTO's That iodine will activate the antibodies for. I was fine and had NO antibody attacks for years until i used iodine. Iodine is only uiseful for the thyroid to use to MAKE thyroid hormones fo rthta it must be able ot. Wiht Hashi the thyroid is not capable of making the proper amount of thyroid and all the iodine in the world will not change that,. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I have antibodies in my saliva but not blood, so the iodine I take is not going to help? T wrote: Keep in mind that of those 11 million wiht hypothyroidism, probably 10.99 million have HASHIMOTO's That iodine will activate the antibodies for. I was fine and had NO antibody attacks for years until i used iodine. Iodine is only uiseful for the thyroid to use to MAKE thyroid hormones fo rthta it must be able ot. Wiht Hashi the thyroid is not capable of making the proper amount of thyroid and all the iodine in the world will not change that,. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Some people with Hashi's the iodine does seem to help others it triggers antibody attacks. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 The problem with this is that MOST of us have Hashimoto;'s thyroid or autoimmune thyroid disease. Iodine stimulates the htyroie to try to produce more hormones, hwihc is great if oyu just have a lazy thyroid or are just low in iodine. MOST of us are not hypo for that reason. Most of us are hypo from autoimmune thyroid dsease. When you have Hashi antibodies ANYTHING that stimulatres the thyroid also stimulates the antibodies. Also keep in mind this sit e you posted is selling their wares. I have not found any sites that are selling products I would believe 100%.. After all the sites were created JUST to sell their products. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 That whole post by " Ida " reads like spam to me. I tried Iodoral before I knew for sure that I had Hashimoto's and it made me quite warm and I had palpitations. Iodine isn't for everybody. T wrote: > > The problem with this is that MOST of us have Hashimoto;'s thyroid or > autoimmune thyroid disease. Iodine stimulates the htyroie to try to > produce more hormones, hwihc is great if oyu just have a lazy thyroid or > are just low in iodine. MOST of us are not hypo for that reason. Most of > us are hypo from autoimmune thyroid dsease. When you have Hashi > antibodies ANYTHING that stimulatres the thyroid also stimulates the > antibodies. Also keep in mind this sit e you posted is selling their > wares. I have not found any sites that are selling products I would > believe 100%.. After all the sites were created JUST to sell their > products. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Almost all the groups I'm on have been getting that same type of message. Linn > > That whole post by " Ida " reads like spam to me. > > I tried Iodoral before I knew for sure that I had Hashimoto's and it > made me quite warm and I had palpitations. Iodine isn't for everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Val, So then would someone like me with a multi-nodular goiter be further stressing my thyroid gland by taking even a small dose of iodine? I'm currently taking Iodemere by Standard Process. I don't know where I read it, sorry, but I think I've read that iodine can shrink a goiter??? Thanks hun. Be well, W T wrote: The problem with this is that MOST of us have Hashimoto;'s thyroid or autoimmune thyroid disease. Iodine stimulates the htyroie to try to produce more hormones, hwihc is great if oyu just have a lazy thyroid or are just low in iodine. MOST of us are not hypo for that reason. Most of us are hypo from autoimmune thyroid dsease. When you have Hashi antibodies ANYTHING that stimulatres the thyroid also stimulates the antibodies. Also keep in mind this sit e you posted is selling their wares. I have not found any sites that are selling products I would believe 100%.. After all the sites were created JUST to sell their products. --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 >>So then would someone like me with a multi-nodular goiter be further stressing my thyroid gland by taking even a small dose of iodine? I'm currently taking Iodemere by Standard Process. I don't know where I read it, sorry, but I think I've read that iodine can shrink a goiter???<< Goiters are known to be caused by LOW iodine. Anyone wiht a goiter should have the iodine loading test and then use those results to determine if iodine might be helpful. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Thanks Val. I don't know if I can handle the loading test. Even though my IC is pretty inactive, I have to be careful about supplements and the high dose of Iodoral would most likely cause a flare that would take a long, long time to heal again. It's like walking a tight rope, you know? Have a good Monday morning hun. Be well, W wrote: >>So then would someone like me with a multi-nodular goiter be further stressing my thyroid gland by taking even a small dose of iodine? I'm currently taking Iodemere by Standard Process. I don't know where I read it, sorry, but I think I've read that iodine can shrink a goiter???<< Goiters are known to be caused by LOW iodine. Anyone wiht a goiter should have the iodine loading test and then use those results to determine if iodine might be helpful. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Somehting else I never seem to hear from iodine oproponents is the fact that when oyu take THYROID hormones you ARE taking Iodine. I have oftne wondered why they do not acknowledge that fact. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Unless it's synthetic T3 like me taking Tetroxin...maybe that is why??? Be well, T wrote: Somehting else I never seem to hear from iodine oproponents is the fact that when oyu take THYROID hormones you ARE taking Iodine. I have oftne wondered why they do not acknowledge that fact. --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Linn, REALLY??? That's very appealing then! Thank you for sharing that. You always have good info to share hun. Really do your homework. I appreciate that especially with my brain-fogged self these days. It really makes figuring stuff out very difficult. And I USED to be such a problem-solver! Thanks! mwm1glm wrote: , You wouldn't necessarily have to take the regular loading dose. I just discussed this with my doctor regarding my daughter's upcoming test. You could take half the dose and adjust the figures accordingly. --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 In a message dated 31/07/2007 15:37:53 GMT Daylight Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: I did have a resolution of my fibro symptoms...like by 90 percent!... My fibro disappeared with a couple of months on Armour! Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 In a message dated 31/07/2007 17:14:11 GMT Daylight Time, phonicity@... writes: Broda this is the easiest way to lose weight). I have been on a high protein diet for several years and have been able to drop 9 lbs since starting the high fat diet (cheeses, veggies, meats, lots of cream). Wow, that is interesting............ I am SO dispirited about my weight at the moment that I found myself day-dreaming about buying some diet pills earlier when lying on my back in the park, before almost getting assaulted by a drunken lout but that's another story The police were called and all is well now anyway. I digress....... diet pills is what i have been thinking about. Now I KNOW that isw crazy talk but I am going crazy with this weight problem. Now just tipping 16 stone which is 16 x 14, whatever that comes to. I lost 8 lbs recently when I went hyper and find myself thinking all sorts of wierd plots and plans like OK I will tak extra T3 and go hyper and take a betablocker so it is not a problem and THEN lose the weight. I mentioned on the list before that I went on the Atkins induction diet for several weeks a little while back and lost ONE lb. I have been alone and loveless for many years now and recently a mutual friend is wanting to introduce me to what seems like a ver nice man who lives not a million miles from me. BUT what is holding me back, you guessed it - this Oversized Mo. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Well then that might account for why I felt so bad when I tried Armour the first time. The Iodine in it could have been creating a detox situation! Val, do you know how much iodine is in stuff like Armour and Cytomel? Would it be enough to cause a detox? I have high levels of lead but because of my durn bladder, I can't take the usual chelating medications. Causes a big BURN! Be well, T wrote: >>Unless it's synthetic T3 like me taking Tetroxin...maybe that is why???<< Synthetic thyroid hormoens are STILL made up of iodine molecules! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I could take the 's TRT3...and Cytomel is okay although I'm not getting much help but I thought that was due to my adrenals being stage 7. But back when I tried Armour, I felt pretty bad on it...thought it was a pork allergy. mwm1glm wrote: There used to be a few people on the iodine group who would point this out when people would say that they couldn't take any iodine but were taking thyroid meds. --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 The role of the thyroid gland is to produce thyroid hormones, including the two key hormones levothyroxine <http://www.armourthyroid.com/glossary.html#sodium>(T_4 ) and L-triiodothyronine <http://www.armourthyroid.com/glossary.html#l> (T_3 ). Each thyroid hormone contains iodine; the " 3 " and the " 4 " refer to the number of iodine molecules in each thyroid hormone molecule. These two hormones influence the body's metabolism as well as the function of many organs. T_3 is the more biologically active hormone, and it is thought to be the hormone that functions at the cellular level. Levothyroxine (T_4 ) is converted to L-triiodothyronine (T_3 ) in the body. Levothyroxine products such as Synthroid^® contain a synthetic version of only the T_4 hormone; levothyroxine tablets directly replenish the T_4 that the thyroid gland fails to sufficiently produce and rely on the ability of the blood to convert it to T_3 . From this site: http://www.armourthyroid.com/treatment.html -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 BTW , thyroid is the body' OWN detox organ as part of it;s job in the metabolism is to remove toxins and why we feel so bad and have cumulative damage to the cells in the body when we are low in thyroid for many years. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 miost the reactions I have seen to Armoru were from LOW cortisol. Not true reactions to Armour! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Thanks Val...so that would be a fairly low dose considering the doses I was taking here recently that were causing definite detox symptoms as well as a good ole fibro flare. I know I need to detox, buuuuttttttt! LOL Be well, wrote: The role of the thyroid gland is to produce thyroid hormones, including the two key hormones levothyroxine <http://www.armourthyroid.com/glossary.html#sodium>(T_4 ) and L-triiodothyronine <http://www.armourthyroid.com/glossary.html#l> (T_3 ). Each thyroid hormone contains iodine; the " 3 " and the " 4 " refer to the number of iodine molecules in each thyroid hormone molecule. These two hormones influence the body's metabolism as well as the function of many organs. T_3 is the more biologically active hormone, and it is thought to be the hormone that functions at the cellular level. Levothyroxine (T_4 ) is converted to L-triiodothyronine (T_3 ) in the body. Levothyroxine products such as Synthroid^® contain a synthetic version of only the T_4 hormone; levothyroxine tablets directly replenish the T_4 that the thyroid gland fails to sufficiently produce and rely on the ability of the blood to convert it to T_3 . From this site: http://www.armourthyroid.com/treatment.html --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yes, I just learned this...thought metabolism, temp regulation, etc. was the sole purpose of the thyroid gland, but nooooo, it detoxes too! My poor liver is sputtering these days too...I must be REALLY toxic! Scares me a bit. But this accounts for the feeling poorly whenever I try to get aggressive with my hormones (adrenal and hence thyroid). I'm just gonna have to grin and bear it. Be well, wrote: BTW , thyroid is the body' OWN detox organ as part of it;s job in the metabolism is to remove toxins and why we feel so bad and have cumulative damage to the cells in the body when we are low in thyroid for many years. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I wonder why I didn't have these reactions when doing the 's TRT3. I didn't have any reactions like I'm having this year. I don't doubt your observations at all, but I'm one of the weirdest people when it comes to reactions to drugs and supplements. My dad was too. But it could be that my adrenals finally pooped all the way out. Well, I know they have according to May's saliva test results. I just gain so much weight and retain fluid on HC. Right now I'm only taking 5 mgs of HC to see if I can stabilize on that. Be well, wrote: miost the reactions I have seen to Armoru were from LOW cortisol. Not true reactions to Armour! --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 es thwe way the thyroid hormones work uis to carry out a very sloe but constant detox of daily accumulated toxins so I often wonder about the buildup of these toxins we have from being hypo long term. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 >>I wonder why I didn't have these reactions when doing the 's TRT3.<< Well agfter trying five differnt kinds of TRT3 I think I know that answer.. If it doesn;t work it can;t detox! LOL I went severely hypo on every slow relase T3 I tried. At least for me they are useless. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 In a message dated 31/07/2007 18:05:09 GMT Daylight Time, smann writes: So not high protein and very low carb. That means I eat a lot of avacodos too. I have tried raising my veggie intake. My carb source is fruit. plenty of fat is the key? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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