Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Pat is a HE and is not a doctor. He is very unlikely to answer questions about himself, which is one BIG reason I have shied away from listening to him and left that list. What is he hiding? -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 A couple of months ago I thought Pat was being very irresponsible with his advice so I posted a rebuttal, which he refused to allow to post. However, he privately emailed me a very nasty response. I had recommended a very good doctor to someone on his list, (someone I know STTM recommends) and Pat kept criticizing the treatment the doctor undertook and, of course, kept pushing the person to call Dr. Mark . On Thursday, July 26, 2007, at 10:02AM, " T " wrote: >Pat is a HE and is not a doctor. He is very unlikely to answer questions >about himself, which is one BIG reason I have shied away from listening >to him and left that list. What is he hiding? > >-- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ >http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Pat is a he not a she. No he never will answer that question, it has been asked a lot of times on different forums Lynda Is Pat at HHN a Doctor? > Hi all, > > I know I've seen this question asked here before, but I couldn't > find it in a search of the messages. > > I think I remember Val replied to this once? > > Pat has been asked directly by posters at HHN, but I if she has ever > replied, I missed it ... > > Thanks in advance, > > Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Honestly I have wondered before if Pat IS Dr in disguise. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Me too!! On Thursday, July 26, 2007, at 10:27AM, " T " wrote: >Honestly I have wondered before if Pat IS Dr in disguise. > >-- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ >http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I was told on another list that he is Dugan from NYC. Might or might not be a health care worker there. Don't know. NOT a doctor. On the other list I am on there were more than a few claims of him stalking women off line with very forward, creepy emails that were totally inappropriate. Asked about their female anatomy- use your imagination. I got off that list after reading some of these things. Hope everyone who is a member of that list is careful!! Something is clearly wrong with this guy! Power trip for one, but he also needs to belittle people who don't kowtow. -AG > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/growhair/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Thanks everyone, I TOO have wondered if Pat is/is working for Dr. ! Has anyone here ever used this Dr. and willing to comment on the experience? Thanks again! Liz S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 " What is he hiding? " In some states it is illegal to handout medical advice over the internet, including email, if you are a doctor. To give Pat the benefit of the doubt, do you think this is a possibility for secrecy? I have been curious about credentials too... -Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 - You are smart! I never would have thought. But, you may be right. What a great way to get customers, lol, lol. T wrote: Honestly I have wondered before if Pat IS Dr in disguise. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I've thought about contactin but have been waiting to hear from others on their experience with him. I don't want to waste another minute with someone who doesn't know what there doing. E Silver wrote: Thanks everyone, I TOO have wondered if Pat is/is working for Dr. ! Has anyone here ever used this Dr. and willing to comment on the experience? Thanks again! Liz S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Lori - Thank you for sending this. I'd like to hear about others who have consulted with him. I've emailed him once and didn't really care for his answers to my questions. I had a funny feeling about calling him. - something was holding me back. Pat knows so much about Dr. but then again, maybe is paying Pat for referrals? I wonder if asks where you heard about him. Lori Goldstein wrote: Here is a link to some interesting info regarding . http://stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=5403 & highlight=rhodes >Thanks everyone, > >I TOO have wondered if Pat is/is working for Dr. ! > >Has anyone here ever used this Dr. and willing to comment on the experience? > >Thanks again! > >Liz S. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 has used Dr. and had good things to say about him. I don't know if she's still active on this group or not. Linn > > Lori - Thank you for sending this. I'd like to hear about others who have consulted with him. I've emailed him once and didn't really care for his answers to my questions. I had a funny feeling about calling him. - something was holding me back. Pat knows so much about Dr. but then again, maybe is paying Pat for referrals? I wonder if asks where you heard about him. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I was wondering this too. His practice can't be all that busy. b53cjf wrote: Everyone is wondering the same. But then one has to wonder when he has time to do his medical stuff and take care of patients when he's constantly posting on forums. > > Honestly I have wondered before if Pat IS Dr in disguise. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets > --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I think I've seen the name around. I wish she could tell us her experience. I'd like to hear more positive remarks before contacting him. mwm1glm wrote: has used Dr. and had good things to say about him. I don't know if she's still active on this group or not. Linn > > Lori - Thank you for sending this. I'd like to hear about others who have consulted with him. I've emailed him once and didn't really care for his answers to my questions. I had a funny feeling about calling him. - something was holding me back. Pat knows so much about Dr. but then again, maybe is paying Pat for referrals? I wonder if asks where you heard about him. > > --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Something I noticed once was Pat and dr. write their emails the same way. That is what set of red flags in my head. He was helping via email, but when I asked a specific question about something the emails stopped. I found that really annoying. hugs Micki Health Eating and Living Together http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/he2gether_/ My brother's online store check it out http://mcgregorgifts.ecrater.com/ Re: Is Pat at HHN a Doctor? I was wondering this too. His practice can't be all that busy. b53cjf wrote: Everyone is wondering the same. But then one has to wonder when he has time to do his medical stuff and take care of patients when he's constantly posting on forums. > > Honestly I have wondered before if Pat IS Dr in disguise. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets > --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 's still on the HHN group. Linn has used Dr. and had good things to say about him. I > don't know if she's still active on this group or not. > > Linn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 He never refers to people as patients; he uses clients. On Thursday, July 26, 2007, at 05:41PM, " " wrote: >I'm also a member of that group. Pat transcribes and posts patient's visits and the treatment given. It appears to be believable with utter details and sound knowledge on the subject. Do you folks really beieve that he is not a doctor? If not, is he an RN or holistic practitioner? I'd like to know more about him. > > Thanks, > > >Lori Goldstein wrote: > A couple of months ago I thought Pat was being very irresponsible with his advice so I posted a rebuttal, which he refused to allow to post. However, he privately emailed me a very nasty response. I had recommended a very good doctor to someone on his list, (someone I know STTM recommends) and Pat kept criticizing the treatment the doctor undertook and, of course, kept pushing the person to call Dr. Mark . > >On Thursday, July 26, 2007, at 10:02AM, " T " wrote: >>Pat is a HE and is not a doctor. He is very unlikely to answer questions >>about himself, which is one BIG reason I have shied away from listening >>to him and left that list. What is he hiding? >> >>-- >> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV >> >> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ >>http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ >>http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets >> >> > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 That's right. I wonder why? Lori Goldstein wrote: He never refers to people as patients; he uses clients. On Thursday, July 26, 2007, at 05:41PM, " " wrote: >I'm also a member of that group. Pat transcribes and posts patient's visits and the treatment given. It appears to be believable with utter details and sound knowledge on the subject. Do you folks really beieve that he is not a doctor? If not, is he an RN or holistic practitioner? I'd like to know more about him. > > Thanks, > > >Lori Goldstein wrote: > A couple of months ago I thought Pat was being very irresponsible with his advice so I posted a rebuttal, which he refused to allow to post. However, he privately emailed me a very nasty response. I had recommended a very good doctor to someone on his list, (someone I know STTM recommends) and Pat kept criticizing the treatment the doctor undertook and, of course, kept pushing the person to call Dr. Mark . > >On Thursday, July 26, 2007, at 10:02AM, " T " wrote: >>Pat is a HE and is not a doctor. He is very unlikely to answer questions >>about himself, which is one BIG reason I have shied away from listening >>to him and left that list. What is he hiding? >> >>-- >> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV >> >> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ >>http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ >>http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets >> >> > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 What group? Drea Re: Is Pat at HHN a Doctor? I'm also a member of that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 > > I've thought about contactin but have been waiting to hear from others on their experience with him. I don't want to waste another minute with someone who doesn't know what there doing. OK, I'll tell a bit about my experience with him. It was expensive. It was frustrating. It was not particularly helpful. I did not come away from the phone call feeling like I had a better plan than I had before. Like nearly all of us on these lists, I've spent *way too much time in doctor's offices getting no help, talking to people who have no clue. Pat's advice at HHN *was helpful to me -- s/ he urges getting dosages right by testing, not by " feel " , and in fact when I re-tested the results were not at all what I expected them to be. I hoped would help me figure out the next step. Mostly he wanted me to buy supplements. He did not have the kind of clarity and flow- chart kind of analysis that Pat does when describing a case. I have to say the whole experience was weird and kind of creepy, including writing this post. But I just wanted to let people know how it went for me. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 HHN list Drea wrote: What group? Drea Re: Is Pat at HHN a Doctor? I'm also a member of that group. --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 HHN list Drea wrote: What group? Drea Re: Is Pat at HHN a Doctor? I'm also a member of that group. --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Thanks for taking the time to do this, Nell! I have been wondering the same thing about . -Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Ok.. I give up...what is HHN????? Lol this guys sounds really odd. SeaLady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Ok.. I give up...what is HHN????? Lol this guys sounds really odd. SeaLady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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