Re: how to know when to lower thyroid

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I go by pulse and temps.

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This is an interesting post, and am looking forward the answer

because I was feeling great until the heat and then starting having

these same problems, including adrenal issues again.

cathy

>

> Hello

>

> I was reading these 2 posts specifically where these two ladies

> mention that they lowered their thyroid meds and began to feel

> better. I'm doing this at the moment because my temps are too

high.

> Is there any other reason to lower thyroid medication? Nicola says

> her adrenals were being taxed and that lowering thyroid helped

her.

> I'm not understanding the correlation.

>

> Thanx

> ********************************

>

> Two weeks ago I came down to the South of France, and although it

is

> not that hot - 28 degrees - my adrenals are taking a knocking. I

have

> also halved my Armour dose which has helped. Just wondering what

> other people think?

>

> Nicola

>

> I was feeling great...began walking 2 miles a day then came the

heat

> and without dose change I went back to coughing and feeling bad.

> Now that a week has gone by with increase of cortef and lowering

> Armour I am just now feeling better as of yesterday.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The only thing you may be doing wrong is keeping the HC too low. By not

supporting the adrenals well it allows th ehtyroid ( any of it) to build

in the blood then one little stres dose dumps it into the cells all at

nce. By taking ENOUGH HC all the time it will keep this from happeneing.

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>>I didn't wake up with that

panic like last night but just couldn't shut off thoughts that were

stressing me out. Unusual for me.<<

This sounds liek low cortisol. Thuis is telling me you need to raise the bedtime

dose or add one if you are not taking one.

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In a message dated 18/07/2007 19:52:53 GMT Daylight Time,

kaylee4848@... writes:

Hopefully I will find a happy medium - so if you have a pounding heart you

will want to lower your meds - it can cause heart tissue problems.

This is really hard. I am on 75 mcg T3 and lowered from 5 because of hyper

symptoms and still Ihave the rapid pulse and high BP.

I have had to go on betablockers (Atenolol) because the BP was

dangerouslyhigh and I could not get it down with natural means like magesnium

etc. etc.

I have found that my temp. isnot v. useful in determing where I am with

things and with taking the betablockers then I cannot use my pulse now either.

I am VERY hypo and don't know which way to turn.

Any ideas peeps?

Mo

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I've been having a pounding pulse, which I now know is heart

palipations...my thyroid is almost complete suppressed - down to .005 as of

last Thursday - even after going from 4 grains of armour down to 2....

Now I've lowered even more and finally the heart palps have slowed down BUT

now I am hypo T again!!! Swollen puffy face and eyes every morning

now...sluggish so am increasing some again...guess I probably didn't need to

lower so much and let my body catch up - but the palps were getting really

bad.

I had cut back on my isocort too - but will move that back up and be better

about getting full doses of Sea Salt/vit C in as well so my adrenals stay

up..

I just came from having an MRI done on my head - Endro wanted to check my

pituitary gland to see if that is what is causing me to be so suppressed

while decreasing, my March bloodwork at 4 grains was .009 (2.4 - 7.6) I

think is the norm range.

Hopefully I will find a happy medium - so if you have a pounding heart you

will want to lower your meds - it can cause heart tissue problems.

SeaLady

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Hi

According to my endo, Thierry Hertoghe, you should lower your Armour

dose by 15mg in the summer and increase it by 15mg in the winter.

Apparently the body needs less thyroid hormone when the weather is

warmer.

Because I have come somewhere very hot, my adrenals suffered and so I

have lowered by 30mg to take the strain off them. As I understand

it, using the thyroid hormone uses up cortisol. If your body needs

more cortisol to deal with heat stress, then too much thyroid hormone

in addition to heat will stress your adrenals. I guess you could

either increase HC /Pred, or lower thyroid, but as I will be here for

2 months I can't stress dose for that long.

Not sure if I've explained this very well...

Best

Nicola

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wrote:

>

> This is an interesting post, and am looking forward the answer

> because I was feeling great until the heat and then starting having

> these same problems, including adrenal issues again.

>

> cathy

>

>

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > I was reading these 2 posts specifically where these two ladies

> > mention that they lowered their thyroid meds and began to feel

> > better. I'm doing this at the moment because my temps are too

> high.

> > Is there any other reason to lower thyroid medication? Nicola

says

> > her adrenals were being taxed and that lowering thyroid helped

> her.

> > I'm not understanding the correlation.

> >

> > Thanx

> > ********************************

> >

> > Two weeks ago I came down to the South of France, and although it

> is

> > not that hot - 28 degrees - my adrenals are taking a knocking. I

> have

> > also halved my Armour dose which has helped. Just wondering what

> > other people think?

> >

> > Nicola

> >

> > I was feeling great...began walking 2 miles a day then came the

> heat

> > and without dose change I went back to coughing and feeling bad.

> > Now that a week has gone by with increase of cortef and lowering

> > Armour I am just now feeling better as of yesterday.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>>so if you have a pounding heart you

will want to lower your meds - it can cause heart tissue problems.<<

not always true! Many palps can be from low magnesium, LOW thyroid, or weajk

adrenals as well as high cortisol so it is important to find the cause before

just lowering thyroid. MOST palps are not damaging or dangerous either.

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[Guest guest]

I'm answering several comments here at once.

ANSW: A high startle reflex is often the adrenals too...I do still startle

more than I would like.

That sounds like me! I didn't know a magnesium deficiency could cause an

exaggerated startle reflex. Is this true?

ANSW: My Iron and Ferritin levels were not too bad....

Anemia can also make your heart pound, just from getting up and

walking across the room. Been there, done that!!!

Q: Can you tell me more about the aldosterone??? What are the

symptoms/tests and what helps it???

For you may be it is too much thyrid but for me it was low aldosterone.

I had this pounding heart for about 11 years and it si gone now.

ANSW: I had been doing pretty good for quite a while at 4 grains...and then

about 6 months ago the pounding pulse started...now I am raising up a little

bit, way to hypo T now, but the pounding is back already!!! Something else

has to be going on for my to be so suppressed suddenly even on less armour.

Thanks for all the help.

SeaLady

[Guest guest]

Thank you!!

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My doctor put me on prescription iron pills for a couple of months and

then I went to OTC Slow Fe brand. I liked those much better. The

prescription pills were really hard on the tummy.

Linn

>

> Hi Linn, What did you do for your anemia??

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Val,

My friend is losing weight like crazy! Her doctor gave her the glucose

test and declared that she is insulin resistant.

She is giving herself injections of a new drug called Byetta. She has lost

10lbs in 8 days. Swears she is eating??

She is not diabetic.

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>>Has everything finally come together for you?<<

If I could ONLY lose abotu 60 pounds I woiuld feel WONDERFUL. Yes life is

loking very good right now!

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I am diabetic. Byetta is a diabetic drug which has as one of its main side

effects weight loss. This drug is very new and people are having some serious

side effects from it, so much so that many doctors do not prescribe it. And I

know it is only supposed to be given to diabetics. Your friend is losing weight

because of the medication she is taking. Check it out on www.drugs.com

Arabella

wrote:

Hi Val,

My friend is losing weight like crazy! Her doctor gave her the glucose

test and declared that she is insulin resistant.

She is giving herself injections of a new drug called Byetta. She has lost

10lbs in 8 days. Swears she is eating??

She is not diabetic.

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>>Has everything finally come together for you?<<

If I could ONLY lose abotu 60 pounds I woiuld feel WONDERFUL. Yes life is

loking very good right now!

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for this info because I was going to go to her doctor....I will wait.

Blessings,

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Talk to her in about a month. Byetta's weight loss effects 0pnly last

about that long.

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