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It is also available on the Web at:

http://www.uspharmacyproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PLST & Store_Code=\

HPE

The dye-free works better for me but I now only take it for it's expectorant

action, not regularly as is done with fibro patients. You need to drink a glass

of water with it.

Not so expensive unless you want the extended action kind. I don't trust

extended action drugs because they contain much more of the active ingredient

and it does not always work like it should because we are all different.

Ora

>Guai is now OTC!!!! Unfortunately that also makes it alot more expensive and

those who have FMS and LIVE on it it is a hard thing. You can get it at Wal-Mart

under the name Mucinex. They are presently having trouble getting it in the 40

count and only have it in the 20 count. In some wal-marts I have seen it by the

other cold meds and in some I have had to ask for it at the counter even though

it IS OTC.

>Pete at Bellevue pharmacy makes it as a compound it is 605mg's #100, for I

believe it was $25. Mucinex is about $15 for 40 tabs. The good thing is you can

cut the mucinex in half and you cant the compounded caps. But I have written

Pete to see if he makes a lesser strength. I accidently deleted his e-mail with

the info for the 605mgs

>I DO advise if you are wanting to try it to go to www.fibromyalgiatreatment.com

and read the site.

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> Can somebody please tell me if guai is a prescription

> item or can you buy it over the counter somewhere?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Arline

>

Guai is Guaifenesin and is an expectorant (it breaks up mucus). It

has always been an over the counter product but it usually comes with

other ingredients that way. You can get it by prescription to get

pure Guai. With so many using it for FM, it has now been seen more

and more over the counter as a stand alone medication. Look for it

in the cough/cold sections. People with asthma use it as well as

bronchitis or just plain old colds.

Here is some good info:

http://www.sover.net/~devstar/phguai.htm

Lynn

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> Lynn,

>

> I had just heard somewhere that the Guai that went over the

> counter just recently was the pure form. Maybe I misunderstood

> that.

>

> Kristy :)

>

Yes it is. It is also extended release from what I see. Apparently

in the past 12 months the FDA pulled all extended release products

(long story but a search brings it up) but the Mucinex or Guaifenesin-

600 (I can't figure out if they are the same company or not but both

are out there).

The FM protocol wants you to use extended release. The information

says you can use regular guai which is easy to find but you don't

know how pure it is and you may have to break up the dosage more

often thru the day.

Of course when people start to find something that works for them,

the FDA pulls it. They tried that with progesterone cream and so

far....they haven't been successful but who knows in the future.

I am considering giving it a shot but I have spent sooo much already

on this problem that I want to be sure first. Doing my research!!

Lynn

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> I had to get the Mucinex for bronchitis and bought it from my

> pharmacy which is Eckerds and had to pay $20. I don't remember

> for how many tablets but I think it was about 40 but I'll have

> to check the number of tablets to see.

>

> Kristy :)

>

That's not a bad price. I have seen it at drugstore.com for 25.99

for 40 ct.

Lynn

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> BUT, I still have the lumpy bumps and tissue and that

> hasn't gone away. So I may kind of look into that a

> little more. They don't bother me unless I rub them

> and it feels sore but I don't get the rest of the

> symptoms. It just makes me wonder what it is all

> about.

>

> Arline

Can you tell us more about the " bumps " ? Where are they and what do

they feel like sizewise?

Lynn

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Yes, please do. I have a lump in my inner thigh that has been there about

10/15 years and it slowly gets larger and causes more pain. It affects my

ability to stand up.... i have to stretch the leg first. Two docs have

looked at it and say they suppose its a twisted ganglion

(A ganglion is a fluid filled mass associated with a joint capsule or a

tendon sheath. Ganglion cysts can occur many places on the body, and are

very common on the foot. Ganglions usually appear as a firm nodule under the

skin. They may be symptom free, or can be painful, and may change in

sizeperiodically. It is important to know that ganglion cysts are NOT CANCER

and will never become cancerous (malignant). If the cyst is large or

painful, treatment might consist of aspiration of the fluid with a needle.

The recurrence rate with this treatment is 70%, however. A more definitive

treatment is surgical excision, which can also have up to a 30% recurrence

rate. Therefore, surgery should be considered only if the cyst is

symptomatic. " Skillful neglect " (leaving it alone) is always a good option

in treating this condition, as many times the cyst will go away on its own

without any treatment. "

I also have a small lumpy thing on my upper arm.

Do these make me a candidate for Fibro?

Dusty

Re: Guai

> BUT, I still have the lumpy bumps and tissue and that

> hasn't gone away. So I may kind of look into that a

> little more. They don't bother me unless I rub them

> and it feels sore but I don't get the rest of the

> symptoms. It just makes me wonder what it is all

> about.

>

> Arline

Can you tell us more about the " bumps " ? Where are they and what do

they feel like sizewise?

Lynn

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Hi guys

I am intending to trying guai and Dr St Amand's protocol. I read someone was talking about lumps and bumps. Aparently that is very common for fibro sufferers. According to Dr St Amand, mapping should be done by a mapper to determine if fibro is the problem. It is all part of Dr St Amand's protocol. It is also important to avoid salicylates and address hypoglacymia if present.

As Candace suggested a good book to read would be the book "What your doctor May not tell you about fibromylgia".

Propably some of you have already tried guai but I was wondering if you guys addressed those 2 things I mentioned above?

I have an appointment in 2 days time and i'll see how I go.

Thanks

Anja

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