Re: Neurontin (GABAPENTIN) The Illegal Corporate Creation

November 7, 2003

Personally, I would take anything put out by the group

Public Citizen with a grain of salt. They have an

agenda against drug manufacturers, and are known to

exaggerate the facts in order to stir up controversy.

Among the medications they would like to get rid of

are Tequin, Lamasil, Ativan and Lotronex (for IBS).

Some of these medications have and/or continue to make

my life bearable. They call the allergy medication

Claritan a " lifestyle " drug. (Implying that it's not

necessary.) Check out their website sometime.

Zig

November 7, 2003

CC,

Many, many women are being put on Neurontin for

" psychosomatic problems " like:

-vulvar pain

-PMS

-menopause

-anxiety

- etc

Remember the movie: " The Stepford Wives " ? Well docs

want us to shut up by doping us.

Elavil is used as well as Prozac...

-

--- C C wrote:

> Dateline did a show a few months back on Neurontin.

> One of my cose VV friends called me from Cali and

> told me since she knew one of my docs was trying to

> get me to take Neurontin. I missed the episode, but

> she told me NOT to take it and according to Dateline

> there is a lawsuit against the makers of N.

> I'm not aware of all the show said since I didnt

> watch it. Just heard it from someone else.

> Give me a pill thats made specifically for V pain

> and I'll try it, gove me a script for somehting to

> do with seizures of depression and you can keep it.

> Antidepressants made me DEPRESSED, and I was in fear

> of what could have resulted in taking an anti

> epileptic.

> I'll pass.

>

November 7, 2003

CC,

Many, many women are being put on Neurontin for

" psychosomatic problems " like:

-vulvar pain

-PMS

-menopause

-anxiety

- etc

Remember the movie: " The Stepford Wives " ? Well docs

want us to shut up by doping us.

Elavil is used as well as Prozac...

-

--- C C wrote:

> Dateline did a show a few months back on Neurontin.

> One of my cose VV friends called me from Cali and

> told me since she knew one of my docs was trying to

> get me to take Neurontin. I missed the episode, but

> she told me NOT to take it and according to Dateline

> there is a lawsuit against the makers of N.

> I'm not aware of all the show said since I didnt

> watch it. Just heard it from someone else.

> Give me a pill thats made specifically for V pain

> and I'll try it, gove me a script for somehting to

> do with seizures of depression and you can keep it.

> Antidepressants made me DEPRESSED, and I was in fear

> of what could have resulted in taking an anti

> epileptic.

> I'll pass.

>

November 7, 2003

(start: sarcastic mode)

I don't know, Zig. Being able to breath, function normally, not have

the desire to scratch your face off, stop sneezing long enough to

talk, and not be a bitch because you can't think straight for the

symptoms might just be what companies call " a lifestyle " . :-)

(end: sarcastic mode)

> Personally, I would take anything put out by the group

> Public Citizen with a grain of salt. They have an

> agenda against drug manufacturers, and are known to

> exaggerate the facts in order to stir up controversy.

> Among the medications they would like to get rid of

> are Tequin, Lamasil, Ativan and Lotronex (for IBS).

> Some of these medications have and/or continue to make

> my life bearable. They call the allergy medication

> Claritan a " lifestyle " drug. (Implying that it's not

> necessary.) Check out their website sometime.

>

> Zig

November 7, 2003

(start: sarcastic mode)

I don't know, Zig. Being able to breath, function normally, not have

the desire to scratch your face off, stop sneezing long enough to

talk, and not be a bitch because you can't think straight for the

symptoms might just be what companies call " a lifestyle " . :-)

(end: sarcastic mode)

> Personally, I would take anything put out by the group

> Public Citizen with a grain of salt. They have an

> agenda against drug manufacturers, and are known to

> exaggerate the facts in order to stir up controversy.

> Among the medications they would like to get rid of

> are Tequin, Lamasil, Ativan and Lotronex (for IBS).

> Some of these medications have and/or continue to make

> my life bearable. They call the allergy medication

> Claritan a " lifestyle " drug. (Implying that it's not

> necessary.) Check out their website sometime.

>

> Zig

November 7, 2003

I'm moderating a list about drugs for dogs, the drug companies do not care

what their meds do to us they are in it for money, plain, flat out. Then

there are the PERKS the doctors get for rxing it.

Lona

> Dateline did a show a few months back on Neurontin. One of my cose VV

friends called me from Cali and told me since she knew one of my docs was

trying to get me to take Neurontin. I missed the episode, but she told me

NOT to take it and according to Dateline there is a lawsuit against the

makers of N.

> I'm not aware of all the show said since I didnt watch it. Just heard it

from someone else.

> Give me a pill thats made specifically for V pain and I'll try it, gove me

a script for somehting to do with seizures of depression and you can keep

it. Antidepressants made me DEPRESSED, and I was in fear of what could have

resulted in taking an anti epileptic.

> I'll pass.

>

November 7, 2003

It is true that using those drugs in high doses can be very bad. However Elavil

(for one) is recommended only in very small doses for vulvar pain. Not in the

high doses used for anti-depression. I haven't researched the others and don't

know what dosages are used for vulvodynia and PMS.

Ora

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:42:34 -0800 (PST), B

wrote:

>CC,

>

>Many, many women are being put on Neurontin for

> " psychosomatic problems " like:

>

>-vulvar pain

>-PMS

>-menopause

>-anxiety

>- etc

>

>Remember the movie: " The Stepford Wives " ? Well docs

>want us to shut up by doping us.

>

>Elavil is used as well as Prozac...

>

>-

November 7, 2003

> Zig,

>

> I disagree. I think we are being over prescribed to

> manage symptoms and not get to root causes... It

> therefore makes us a sicker nation. When women are

> prescribed drugs like Neurontin (which is an

> antiseizure drug) for PMS - something is very, very

> wrong. PMS is hormonal...

>

> Rent the movie the Stepford Wives sometime...

>

> -

>

My point of view is:

While many doctors use these meds as " band aids " ...the flip side of

this is: when you have tried everything out there to get better and

you don't, you eventually will accept a " band aid " medication to get

relief. No, it does not cure the problem nor does it help you get to

the root of things but there are some things that have no root as yet

in the medical world. Autoimmune diseases fall into that category.

They are working hard on finding the cause and cure but until then,

all that can be offered is medications that suppress the symptoms or

relief them. Sometimes it is the best choice.

For every doctor that jumps right into giving you the medication

to " cover " up the problem, their are others trying to find the

answers to the problems. We as patients need to seek out those

doctors. For myself, I wanted to find the reason for my burning and

then a cure based on the cause. 4 years later...I am thinking that

at this point, I will accept a " band aid " med just to get relief

while I wait for the cure to come along. My problem is that they

can't find the med that relieves my symptoms.

Lynn

November 7, 2003

Let's not forget that nerve pain is very difficult to treat. It isn't like

a burst appendix, or a bad gallbladder - you can't just go in and remove or

cut the nerves - they are necessary for everyday functioning. If I had all

the inflamed nerves of my spinal and neck condition removed, I'd be in a

wheelchair - unable to care for myself.

So for all intents and purposes, for nerve pain drugs ARE the treatment -

because - as a general rule - surgery is not.

Dusty