RE: a sad and pathetic story. :-(

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I'm sorry Jacquie. Poor . Hopefully he will acquire his new

skill quickly.

[Guest guest]

oh no! poor baby :'(

any chance he could use a stall rather than a urinal?

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

Yes, definitely time for Marc to show him what the fly is for!

Sue

[Guest guest]

> This picture of my golden angel boy in the bathroom, pants around

his ankles and his white bum sticking out while the others laugh,

breaks my heart and makes me want to puke.

>

> <sniff>

>

((((Jacquie))))

I know EXACTLY how you feel. ( has the same problem. We've

tried to tell him to use the stall where the other boys can't see him

to make fun of him, but he wants to use the urinal like the other

boys. So... they tease him, he gets in fights and I'm getting calls

from the school pretty much evey day.

Tina

[Guest guest]

Boy, do I hear ya. My kid does that too. Maybe you've saved us a little

heartache with this post.

I must talk to Matt about this.

Sissi

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> This picture of my golden angel boy in the bathroom, pants around

his ankles and his white bum sticking out while the others laugh,

breaks my heart and makes me want to puke.

It breaks my heart too Jacquie! Kids can be so cruel. Poor .

Tina W.

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> When is a good time to STOP letting them see you naked??

Good question. because I still let Mark see me naked when I change

or get out of the shower. But when he sees me sometimes he will

say. Ohhhhhhh, or he will screech. Whatever that means???? It might

be him being silly.

Tina W.

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weinberg@... wrote:

> > When is a good time to STOP letting them see you naked??

>

> ellen

When they start to laugh. ;-)

~ Karin

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I've heard that countries with public bath houses like Japan, (and more

public nudity), have fewer cases of rape. Go figure.

I know in a lot of places in the US a woman can prance around with a

bandaid over her nipples and a thong and call it a bathing suit, but if

you breastfeed in public you're indecent. Go figure.

~Karin

Murdoch-Gibson wrote:

> i think this is a personal comfort thing. nudity is not something we

> hide in this house (my boys are 6 and 10) but others may not feel

> comfortable with that. there is a huge finnish population in my area

> and everyone has saunas (steam baths) many people i grew up with

> sauna-ed with their whole family after dinner everynight. we're talking

> teenage boys naked with their teenage sisters, parents, grandparents.

> this is not something i would have been comfortable with but i wasn't

> raised in that culture. i suppose it is only wrong if you percieve

> nudity as a sexual state. i don't - but that's just me.

> michelle

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/30/2002 11:08:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

weinberg@... writes:

> He'll think all women are supposed to look like the

> Pillsbury Dough Boy! :-)

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/30/2002 11:08:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

weinberg@... writes:

> He'll think all women are supposed to look like the

> Pillsbury Dough Boy! :-)

>

aw...see? he'll be much more appreciative of the differences of women when

he's grown and not ever seek that " perfect " woman.....

I don't think you'll " damage " him.

Tommi

[Guest guest]

Oh Jacquie, poor . ((((hugs)))) I think its time for daddy to teach

this new skill.

Ali

[Guest guest]

> In Canada it's legal for a woman to be topless in public. But I've never

> seen one.

That's because it's too cold!

Sissi

[Guest guest]

> I know in a lot of places in the US a woman can prance around with a

> bandaid over her nipples and a thong and call it a bathing suit, but if

> you breastfeed in public you're indecent. Go figure.

>

> ~Karin

In Canada it's legal for a woman to be topless in public. But I've never

seen one.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> > In Canada it's legal for a woman to be topless in public. But I've

never

> > seen one.

>

>

> That's because it's too cold!

Ha ha. <raspberry> Are you one of those americans who'd strap skis to your

car for an Ontario vacation in July????

Our summers reach over 100 just like anybody else.

Of course, I'd DIE where you are. I can barely stand the heat HERE.

Jacquie

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:-( *sigh*

(((())))

Where are the TEACHERS???? Why aren't they FIXING this problem????

ARGH!!!!!!

Penny

Re: a sad and pathetic story. :-(

> This picture of my golden angel boy in the bathroom, pants around

his ankles and his white bum sticking out while the others laugh,

breaks my heart and makes me want to puke.

>

> <sniff>

>

((((Jacquie))))

I know EXACTLY how you feel. ( has the same problem. We've

tried to tell him to use the stall where the other boys can't see him

to make fun of him, but he wants to use the urinal like the other

boys. So... they tease him, he gets in fights and I'm getting calls

from the school pretty much evey day.

Tina

[Guest guest]

Awwwww Jacquie -

I'm so sorry.

How in the world do we teach our kids the " comebacks " ? Like in this case,

it would have been great if looked at them and said " I'M Nasty??? What

about you? Your the one LOOKING! "

I know how you feel....Three boys in Jacqui's class were laughing at her

yesterday because when she was sitting in circle for reading, they could see

her underwear (peaking out the back of her pants). The teacher handled this

EXTREMELY well (I Love Her, BTW). This morning on the play ground there

were 2 boys trying to get them to chase her...Now I don't know if they were

" having fun " or " making fun " ... I think a little of both...but it ran thru

my mind that I was going to tell the teacher if I EVER saw these kids making

fun of her I was going to break their little fingers and that maybe she

could handle it a little more tactfully. (She DOES NOT tolerate this

behavior from ANYONE).

So, I know how you feel. If it makes you feel a little better, our little

ones can dish it out too because (well, at least Jacqui) will copy any

behavior, good or bad...and SHE ended up laughing at another little girl who

had a dress on and was sitting so they could see HER underwear. *sigh*. She

got the same discipline as the boys and her teacher explained the whole

thing to me. They all had to write letters of apology stating the apology,

what they did that they won't do again and how they would handle it next

time.

I digress.

((((jacquie))))

We just need to figure out how to teach them to not be targets. And we need

support from adults that work with them.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Good question.

Jacqui still sees me naked, but we don't make a big deal of it.. (We don't

encourage it either).

At first she used to laugh.

Now she just says " EEEEEEWWWWW THAT'S dis-GUSTING! "

We've taught her " private " and " privacy " .

That's actually worked pretty well.

Penny

RE: a sad and pathetic story. :-(

Poor . I know we're going to have the same problem, because has

NEVER seen my husband naked, let alone peeing. :-( I KNOW he's beginning to

wonder where my penis is, because he keeps squatting on the floor looking up

there when I get out of the shower.

When is a good time to STOP letting them see you naked??

ellen

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Do men realy use their fly? I know that no male in my house does.

Jacquie H

> Yes, definitely time for Marc to show him what the fly is for!

> Sue

[Guest guest]

Because they arent in the bathrroms with our kids.

Jacquie H

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> > This picture of my golden angel boy in the bathroom, pants around

> his ankles and his white bum sticking out while the others laugh,

> breaks my heart and makes me want to puke.

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> > <sniff>

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> ((((Jacquie))))

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> I know EXACTLY how you feel. ( has the same problem. We've

> tried to tell him to use the stall where the other boys can't see

him

> to make fun of him, but he wants to use the urinal like the other

> boys. So... they tease him, he gets in fights and I'm getting calls

> from the school pretty much evey day.

>

> Tina

[Guest guest]

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> Do men realy use their fly? I know that no male in my house does.

> Jacquie H

Well...............since I don't go into the mens room personally, I really

have no idea!

Sue

[Guest guest]

Ok now. The school should be handling this one! Especially with it

happening frequently! Why don't they have a male teacher or a janitor or

someone go with him!?

Sue

Re: a sad and pathetic story. :-(

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> his ankles and his white bum sticking out while the others laugh,

> breaks my heart and makes me want to puke.

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> ((((Jacquie))))

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> I know EXACTLY how you feel. ( has the same problem. We've

> tried to tell him to use the stall where the other boys can't see him

> to make fun of him, but he wants to use the urinal like the other

> boys. So... they tease him, he gets in fights and I'm getting calls

> from the school pretty much evey day.

>

> Tina

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[Guest guest]

that's a bit sketchy - sending male staff member to teach toileting to - i know

around here anyways schools carefully avoid that kind of scenario.

michelle

Re: a sad and pathetic story. :-(

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> > This picture of my golden angel boy in the bathroom, pants around

> his ankles and his white bum sticking out while the others laugh,

> breaks my heart and makes me want to puke.

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> > <sniff>

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> ((((Jacquie))))

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> I know EXACTLY how you feel. ( has the same problem. We've

> tried to tell him to use the stall where the other boys can't see him

> to make fun of him, but he wants to use the urinal like the other

> boys. So... they tease him, he gets in fights and I'm getting calls

> from the school pretty much evey day.

>

> Tina

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[Guest guest]

My Dh doesn't and neither do my boys....

" Our civilization would be extremely dull and sterile if we did not have and

treasure people with Asperger's Syndrome "

Tony Attwood

Re: Re: a sad and pathetic story. :-(

----- Original Message -----

> Do men realy use their fly? I know that no male in my house does.

> Jacquie H

Well...............since I don't go into the mens room personally, I really

have no idea!

Sue

[Guest guest]

No, I didn't mean to have them teach him, to protect him from being

harassed! She said it happens often.

Sue

Re: Re: a sad and pathetic story. :-(

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> Ok now. The school should be handling this one! Especially with it

> happening frequently! Why don't they have a male teacher or a janitor

or

> someone go with him!?

> Sue