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I can only give our experience, of course. Many people might have

considered Jakob to be delayed, but if he was, he has certainly caught

up to his peers now. Jakob didn't roll over tummy to back until about 7

months and a while later for back to tummy. He started crawling 3 days

shy of 11 months. He was about a week shy of 19 months when he finally

walked by himself. Now, he keeps up with his friends and does

everything they do. People who don't know him would never guess there

was ever anything wrong with him.

Out of curiosity, what does your pediatrician think about it?

lisa_cannuli@... wrote:

> Hello everyone. I'm not sure you remember me. I gave birth to a son

> AJ on March 7th. AJ was diagnosed inutero at 17 weeks with

> idiopathic clubfeet. He also had a onian Translocation of the

> 13th and 14th chromosome. At 12 days old I took AJ to see Dr.

> Herzenberg for treatment of his clubfeet. After seven casts, a

> tenotomy and full time in the DBB's, Aj is now on bed time only with

> the DBB's and his feet look great.

>

> My concern regards his development. Because of the genetic problem

> AJ has been to see a genetics specialist and a neurologist at

> Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia. After several blood tests it was

> determined that genetically he is fine. Apparently the translocation

> was inherited from me, and since I'm OK he should be OK. However he

> is having some developmental delays regarding his gross motor

> skills. At 8 months he is still not rolling over. He also does not

> like to stand or put weight on his feet when held upright, nor does

> he push up with his arms when on his stomach. However, he does sit

> up by himself when placed in a sitting position. He is alert and

> loves to sit in his walker and throw all his toys on the floor and

> wait for someone to pick them up. He also likes to laugh and finds

> his brothers and and his sister very amusing.

>

> My question is, has anyone else experienced these types of delays

> with their clubfeet kids? The doctors were not sure if the casting

> and shoes had anything to do with him not reaching these milestones.

> Since they did not have any other clubfeet kids treated at such a

> young age to compare his development with. What do you think? I

> would appreciate any feedback.

>

> Thanks,

>

> and AJ

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Our pediatrician is the one who referred us to the neurologist

because they were concerned about his development. The neurologist

has asked us to have a CT Scan done, but unfortunatley our insurance

has reached its limit for the year so we are waiting until January to

have it done. That was when they wanted to see him back anyway. In

the meantime they want us to schedule him for physical therapy,

something which our pediatrician also recommened. Our County has an

early intervention program, and AJ is already registered so it won't

cost us anything. Did anyone ever recommend therapy for your son?

Thanks for your reply I feel somewhat better knowing that there may

be some delays associated with the condition, but that they are not

permanent and that apparently AJ will one day catch up.

I would love to hear from some other parents so I can share the info

with AJ's docotors.

Thanks,

>

> > Hello everyone. I'm not sure you remember me. I gave birth to a

son

> > AJ on March 7th. AJ was diagnosed inutero at 17 weeks with

> > idiopathic clubfeet. He also had a onian Translocation of

the

> > 13th and 14th chromosome. At 12 days old I took AJ to see Dr.

> > Herzenberg for treatment of his clubfeet. After seven casts, a

> > tenotomy and full time in the DBB's, Aj is now on bed time only

with

> > the DBB's and his feet look great.

> >

> > My concern regards his development. Because of the genetic

problem

> > AJ has been to see a genetics specialist and a neurologist at

> > Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia. After several blood tests it

was

> > determined that genetically he is fine. Apparently the

translocation

> > was inherited from me, and since I'm OK he should be OK. However

he

> > is having some developmental delays regarding his gross motor

> > skills. At 8 months he is still not rolling over. He also does

not

> > like to stand or put weight on his feet when held upright, nor

does

> > he push up with his arms when on his stomach. However, he does

sit

> > up by himself when placed in a sitting position. He is alert and

> > loves to sit in his walker and throw all his toys on the floor and

> > wait for someone to pick them up. He also likes to laugh and

finds

> > his brothers and and his sister very amusing.

> >

> > My question is, has anyone else experienced these types of delays

> > with their clubfeet kids? The doctors were not sure if the

casting

> > and shoes had anything to do with him not reaching these

milestones.

> > Since they did not have any other clubfeet kids treated at such a

> > young age to compare his development with. What do you think? I

> > would appreciate any feedback.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > and AJ

>

>

>

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Please let us know what (if anything) the CT Scan shows. It was never

suggested to us to have Jakob seen a physical therapist and we really

didn't push the issue. For what it's worth, Jakob's fine motor skills

were somewhat ahead of other kids his same age.

lisa_cannuli@... wrote:

> ,

>

> Our pediatrician is the one who referred us to the neurologist

> because they were concerned about his development. The neurologist

> has asked us to have a CT Scan done, but unfortunatley our insurance

> has reached its limit for the year so we are waiting until January to

> have it done. That was when they wanted to see him back anyway. In

> the meantime they want us to schedule him for physical therapy,

> something which our pediatrician also recommened. Our County has an

> early intervention program, and AJ is already registered so it won't

> cost us anything. Did anyone ever recommend therapy for your son?

>

> Thanks for your reply I feel somewhat better knowing that there may

> be some delays associated with the condition, but that they are not

> permanent and that apparently AJ will one day catch up.

>

> I would love to hear from some other parents so I can share the info

> with AJ's docotors.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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My son was born on March 31,2001, so he is close to the same age as

your son. I feel he is a little more delayed in some areas than his

sisters. I do not know if it is because he is a boy or the casts or

what. My cousins son who does not have clubfeet was very delayed in

everything. He did not sit up until 10 months, or walk until he was

16 months. He also did not speak a single word until 2 1/2. Now

He's 3 1/2 and you would never know. He is equal with any child his

age doing great! He is really, VERY smart for his age. We all

worried alot for nothing! Maybe your son in like him! Anyway our

prayers are with you!

and Caleb 3-31-01

Savannah, GA

In nosurgery4clubfoot@y..., lisa_cannuli@f... wrote:

> Hello everyone. I'm not sure you remember me. I gave birth to a

son

> AJ on March 7th. AJ was diagnosed inutero at 17 weeks with

> idiopathic clubfeet. He also had a onian Translocation of

the

> 13th and 14th chromosome. At 12 days old I took AJ to see Dr.

> Herzenberg for treatment of his clubfeet. After seven casts, a

> tenotomy and full time in the DBB's, Aj is now on bed time only

with

> the DBB's and his feet look great.

>

> My concern regards his development. Because of the genetic problem

> AJ has been to see a genetics specialist and a neurologist at

> Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia. After several blood tests it

was

> determined that genetically he is fine. Apparently the

translocation

> was inherited from me, and since I'm OK he should be OK. However

he

> is having some developmental delays regarding his gross motor

> skills. At 8 months he is still not rolling over. He also does

not

> like to stand or put weight on his feet when held upright, nor does

> he push up with his arms when on his stomach. However, he does sit

> up by himself when placed in a sitting position. He is alert and

> loves to sit in his walker and throw all his toys on the floor and

> wait for someone to pick them up. He also likes to laugh and finds

> his brothers and and his sister very amusing.

>

> My question is, has anyone else experienced these types of delays

> with their clubfeet kids? The doctors were not sure if the casting

> and shoes had anything to do with him not reaching these

milestones.

> Since they did not have any other clubfeet kids treated at such a

> young age to compare his development with. What do you think? I

> would appreciate any feedback.

>

> Thanks,

>

> and AJ

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Hi,

I do not believe that the casting and DBB have much to

do with the baby's ability to start crawling and

standing....babies are easily adaptable, and should be

able to get to these milestones soon enough. My son

can crawl and pull himself to a standing position with

the DBB on....he is 10 months old. Hope this helps!!

--- lisa_cannuli@... wrote:

> Hello everyone. I'm not sure you remember me. I

> gave birth to a son

> AJ on March 7th. AJ was diagnosed inutero at 17

> weeks with

> idiopathic clubfeet. He also had a onian

> Translocation of the

> 13th and 14th chromosome. At 12 days old I took AJ

> to see Dr.

> Herzenberg for treatment of his clubfeet. After

> seven casts, a

> tenotomy and full time in the DBB's, Aj is now on

> bed time only with

> the DBB's and his feet look great.

>

> My concern regards his development. Because of the

> genetic problem

> AJ has been to see a genetics specialist and a

> neurologist at

> Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia. After several

> blood tests it was

> determined that genetically he is fine. Apparently

> the translocation

> was inherited from me, and since I'm OK he should be

> OK. However he

> is having some developmental delays regarding his

> gross motor

> skills. At 8 months he is still not rolling over.

> He also does not

> like to stand or put weight on his feet when held

> upright, nor does

> he push up with his arms when on his stomach.

> However, he does sit

> up by himself when placed in a sitting position. He

> is alert and

> loves to sit in his walker and throw all his toys on

> the floor and

> wait for someone to pick them up. He also likes to

> laugh and finds

> his brothers and and his sister

> very amusing.

>

> My question is, has anyone else experienced these

> types of delays

> with their clubfeet kids? The doctors were not sure

> if the casting

> and shoes had anything to do with him not reaching

> these milestones.

> Since they did not have any other clubfeet kids

> treated at such a

> young age to compare his development with. What do

> you think? I

> would appreciate any feedback.

>

> Thanks,

>

> and AJ

>

>

>

>

>

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My soon to be 8 month old son is crawling full speed ahead and just

started today pulling himself up into a standing position with the

bar/shoes on. He has been out of the bar for 6 hours a day since Oct.

12, 2001. It is quite interesting to compare with his big sister

(non-clubfoot) who didn't reach the milestones of crawling and pulling up

until much later and didn't even start walking until she was 15 months

old. However, her verbal skills came very early. The bar/shoes sure

haven't slowed down my little guy one bit. Babies do easily adapt. My

little guy loves his bar/shoes on.

Tomi

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:31:49 -0800 (PST) Famiglietti

writes:

Hi,

I do not believe that the casting and DBB have much to

do with the baby's ability to start crawling and

standing....babies are easily adaptable, and should be

able to get to these milestones soon enough. My son

can crawl and pull himself to a standing position with

the DBB on....he is 10 months old. Hope this helps!!

--- lisa_cannuli@... wrote:

> Hello everyone. I'm not sure you remember me. I

> gave birth to a son

> AJ on March 7th. AJ was diagnosed inutero at 17

> weeks with

> idiopathic clubfeet. He also had a onian

> Translocation of the

> 13th and 14th chromosome. At 12 days old I took AJ

> to see Dr.

> Herzenberg for treatment of his clubfeet. After

> seven casts, a

> tenotomy and full time in the DBB's, Aj is now on

> bed time only with

> the DBB's and his feet look great.

>

> My concern regards his development. Because of the

> genetic problem

> AJ has been to see a genetics specialist and a

> neurologist at

> Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia. After several

> blood tests it was

> determined that genetically he is fine. Apparently

> the translocation

> was inherited from me, and since I'm OK he should be

> OK. However he

> is having some developmental delays regarding his

> gross motor

> skills. At 8 months he is still not rolling over.

> He also does not

> like to stand or put weight on his feet when held

> upright, nor does

> he push up with his arms when on his stomach.

> However, he does sit

> up by himself when placed in a sitting position. He

> is alert and

> loves to sit in his walker and throw all his toys on

> the floor and

> wait for someone to pick them up. He also likes to

> laugh and finds

> his brothers and and his sister

> very amusing.

>

> My question is, has anyone else experienced these

> types of delays

> with their clubfeet kids? The doctors were not sure

> if the casting

> and shoes had anything to do with him not reaching

> these milestones.

> Since they did not have any other clubfeet kids

> treated at such a

> young age to compare his development with. What do

> you think? I

> would appreciate any feedback.

>

> Thanks,

>

> and AJ

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi and AJ,

My daughter Ivy was born with unilateral clubfoot and hip displasia. I

think for the most part that the clubfoot and the FAB don't hinder motor

developement. There has been a wide gamit of children on this board and

they all seem to devlope at there own rate. My daughter didn't start to

crawl until she was 11.5 months old, and didn't walk until she was 15

months. (Yes, I was concerned; however her verbal skills were more

advanced.) It was also difficult because my son was an early walker, so I

tended to want to compare developemental milestones.

I would not hessitate to bring your concerns up to AJ's doctors. They are

there to serve and answer your questions and concerns. It sounds as if AJ

has some great playmates and " teachers " with his sibblings.

Best to you,

Sara and Ivy 8/17/99

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From a developmental perspective, all children develop at different rates,

as many people have attested to on this site. Some children develop gross or

fine motor skills more quickly or verbal skills more quickly and these

strengths will continue to follow them for the rest of their lives. Girls

and boys develop differently. Developmental patterns, like many other

physical characteristics, are genetically passed on, so generally children

develop like their parents and grandparents did.

Sometimes they will be working on one developmental area at a time.

I had the shoes and bar and still learned how to crawl and pull up with them

on.

At this point, I wouldn't worry too much about the delays you're seeing as

they are within normal limits. On the other hand, from my experience with

early intervention, it certainly doesn't hurt. Most children enjoy it as it

is generally play-based. It will also show you things you can do with AJ to

encourage his development.

One question: just wondering how much time does AJ spend on the floor? on

his tummy? There was an article in the NY Times around the time our

daughter, Zoe, was born (she's turning 8 months tomorrow) which pointed out

that many babies now sleep on their backs and don't spend much time on their

stomachs, so they aren't learning to crawl. Some babies don't crawl, they

just learn to pull up and walk.

I read another article by a pediatrician that recommended babies only spend

20 minutes a day in walkers or exersaucers.

Personally, Zoe rolled over from stomach to back when she turned four

months, but only did it six times until now. Just in the past few days, she

can now easily roll from stomach to back. She was able to roll from her back

to her stomach at about five months and has done that more consistently. She

sat up unsupported at 4 months. She doesn't seem to be interested in

crawling or pulling up, but is now more interested in trying to get to toys

placed out of reach. She seems to have stalled in the gross motor

department, but otherwise she continues to be very advanced. She takes after

her dad, and he and all his siblings were " early talkers, late walkers " .

Hope this helps.

Joanne

>From: lisa_cannuli@...

>Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot

>To: nosurgery4clubfoot

>Subject: Clubfoot and delays

>Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:42:41 -0000

>

>Hello everyone. I'm not sure you remember me. I gave birth to a son

>AJ on March 7th. AJ was diagnosed inutero at 17 weeks with

>idiopathic clubfeet. He also had a onian Translocation of the

>13th and 14th chromosome. At 12 days old I took AJ to see Dr.

>Herzenberg for treatment of his clubfeet. After seven casts, a

>tenotomy and full time in the DBB's, Aj is now on bed time only with

>the DBB's and his feet look great.

>

>My concern regards his development. Because of the genetic problem

>AJ has been to see a genetics specialist and a neurologist at

>Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia. After several blood tests it was

>determined that genetically he is fine. Apparently the translocation

>was inherited from me, and since I'm OK he should be OK. However he

>is having some developmental delays regarding his gross motor

>skills. At 8 months he is still not rolling over. He also does not

>like to stand or put weight on his feet when held upright, nor does

>he push up with his arms when on his stomach. However, he does sit

>up by himself when placed in a sitting position. He is alert and

>loves to sit in his walker and throw all his toys on the floor and

>wait for someone to pick them up. He also likes to laugh and finds

>his brothers and and his sister very amusing.

>

>My question is, has anyone else experienced these types of delays

>with their clubfeet kids? The doctors were not sure if the casting

>and shoes had anything to do with him not reaching these milestones.

>Since they did not have any other clubfeet kids treated at such a

>young age to compare his development with. What do you think? I

>would appreciate any feedback.

>

>Thanks,

>

> and AJ

>

>

>

>

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