Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I don't know about the squashes. The reason the ricotta is not counted is because it is a food, not a sweet treat. If you were to put in lets say sugar free candy to it, then you would have to count the candy. In mine I put in a little plain low fat yogurt, a little skim milk, some extracts, sometimes a no sugar added fudgesicle to make it creamy. The fudgesicle is my sweet treat and I count that. I would encourage you to only have the 75 calories in your fudgesicle (sweet treat) or otherwise I think eventually it might come up and bite you by stalling your weightloss. You should also make yourself have the snacks. This is to keep your blood sugar level throughout the day which is also essential to not only losing but to good health. You really do need the snacks, at least a little something. Congratulations on the weightloss so far. Carol newbie questions Hi! I'm and newish to the diet. (I tried it before but thistime I'm serious).I have some questions.I noticed that chicken legs and wings are on the No list and breastsare okay but thighs aren't mentioned. I've been eating them anyway(and lost 7 lbs the first week). I was wondering why they weren'tmentioned.Also I don't eat the ricotta desert (I don't like ricotta) and I sawthat it has more than 75 calories so I've been substituting 1 SkinnyCow fudgcicle for desert (but I don't have desert every night) and notcounting that toward my 75 calorie sweet allotment, has anyone elsedone this?What about winter squashes (hubbard, turban, butternut, acorn, etc) ?They aren't listed in the book and I'm not sure where to look to seeif they are okay in Phase 2. Now that it's getting into the fall andwinter I'd like to be able to add back some veggies that are inseason.And, finally, I've lost 7 lbs (I cheated so I could have lost more)and I'm really excited about the diet and I've noticed that I'm nothungry all the time like I used to be. In fact, I haven't been eatingsnacks for the past few days because, although I start to get hungry,it's usually only an hour or so before my next meal and so I forgo thesnacks. Has anyone else noticed this?Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this WOE please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Hi , Welcome to the group. The only thing I can really add here is that I know that thighs have a lot of fat in them, so that may be the reason. Others on this group are so very knowledgeable and I am sure you will get a bunch of your questions answered!!! good luck! and take care -----Original Message-----From: Elzie Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:31 AMTo: south-beach-diet-getting-it-right Subject: newbie questionsHi! I'm and newish to the diet. (I tried it before but thistime I'm serious).I have some questions.I noticed that chicken legs and wings are on the No list and breastsare okay but thighs aren't mentioned. I've been eating them anyway(and lost 7 lbs the first week). I was wondering why they weren'tmentioned.Also I don't eat the ricotta desert (I don't like ricotta) and I sawthat it has more than 75 calories so I've been substituting 1 SkinnyCow fudgcicle for desert (but I don't have desert every night) and notcounting that toward my 75 calorie sweet allotment, has anyone elsedone this?What about winter squashes (hubbard, turban, butternut, acorn, etc) ?They aren't listed in the book and I'm not sure where to look to seeif they are okay in Phase 2. Now that it's getting into the fall andwinter I'd like to be able to add back some veggies that are inseason.And, finally, I've lost 7 lbs (I cheated so I could have lost more)and I'm really excited about the diet and I've noticed that I'm nothungry all the time like I used to be. In fact, I haven't been eatingsnacks for the past few days because, although I start to get hungry,it's usually only an hour or so before my next meal and so I forgo thesnacks. Has anyone else noticed this?Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this WOE please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 It's the old " white meat good, dark meat bad " thing. Personally I'd like to know exactly how bad skinnless chicken thighs really are. According to this site, they may not be that bad. http://www.weightlossforall.com/calories-chicken.htm Or this from www.family4life.com " Chicken Thighs ... are higher in fat and calories than breasts, but as long as you remove the skin and any excess fat, economical thighs fit into a good-for-you diet. they also provide 25 percent more iron and more than twice as much zinc as the same amount of breast meat. " Anyone? > Hi , > > Welcome to the group. The only thing I can really add here is that I know > that thighs have a lot of fat in them, so that may be the reason. Others on > this group are so very knowledgeable and I am sure you will get a bunch of > your questions answered!!! > > good luck! and take care > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I don't like ricotta or yogurt so I wasn't planning on eating them at all, except I wanted to just test the ricotta desert. So the only sweets I eat are sugar free jello and the fudgsicles and that's the reason I asked about the fudgsicles, since eating them doesn't add any calories to my day. > > I don't know about the squashes. > > The reason the ricotta is not counted is because it is a food, not a sweet treat. If you were to put in lets say sugar free candy to it, then you would have to count the candy. In mine I put in a little plain low fat yogurt, a little skim milk, some extracts, sometimes a no sugar added fudgesicle to make it creamy. The fudgesicle is my sweet treat and I count that. I would encourage you to only have the 75 calories in your fudgesicle (sweet treat) or otherwise I think eventually it might come up and bite you by stalling your weightloss. > > You should also make yourself have the snacks. This is to keep your blood sugar level throughout the day which is also essential to not only losing but to good health. You really do need the snacks, at least a little something. > > Congratulations on the weightloss so far. Carol > > > > newbie questions > > Hi! I'm and newish to the diet. (I tried it before but this > time I'm serious). > > I have some questions. > > I noticed that chicken legs and wings are on the No list and breasts > are okay but thighs aren't mentioned. I've been eating them anyway > (and lost 7 lbs the first week). I was wondering why they weren't > mentioned. > > Also I don't eat the ricotta desert (I don't like ricotta) and I saw > that it has more than 75 calories so I've been substituting 1 Skinny > Cow fudgcicle for desert (but I don't have desert every night) and not > counting that toward my 75 calorie sweet allotment, has anyone else > done this? > > What about winter squashes (hubbard, turban, butternut, acorn, etc) ? > They aren't listed in the book and I'm not sure where to look to see > if they are okay in Phase 2. Now that it's getting into the fall and > winter I'd like to be able to add back some veggies that are in > season. > > And, finally, I've lost 7 lbs (I cheated so I could have lost more) > and I'm really excited about the diet and I've noticed that I'm not > hungry all the time like I used to be. In fact, I haven't been eating > snacks for the past few days because, although I start to get hungry, > it's usually only an hour or so before my next meal and so I forgo the > snacks. Has anyone else noticed this? > > > > > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. > > For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm > > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. > > For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I have only anecdotal evidence that dark meat isn't bad. If I am having chicken I prefer dark meat and have had it during SBD, though not often. It hasn't affected my weight-loss either way. I say try dark meat, if that is what you prefer, and watch the scale. If it goes up, go back to white meat. :-) B. One pound UNDER my second goal! WOOHOO!! 172 144 145 --- Owen wrote: > It's the old " white meat good, dark meat bad " > thing. Personally I'd > like to know exactly how bad skinnless chicken > thighs really are. > According to this site, they may not be that > bad. > > http://www.weightlossforall.com/calories-chicken.htm > > Or this from www.family4life.com " Chicken > Thighs ... are higher in > fat and calories than breasts, but as long as > you remove the skin and > any excess fat, economical thighs fit into a > good-for-you diet. they > also provide 25 percent more iron and more than > twice as much zinc as > the same amount of breast meat. " > > Anyone? > > > > --- wrote: > > Hi , > > > > Welcome to the group. The only thing I can > really add here is that > I know > > that thighs have a lot of fat in them, so > that may be the reason. > Others on > > this group are so very knowledgeable and I am > sure you will get a > bunch of > > your questions answered!!! > > > > good luck! and take care > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I haven't actually eaten any white meat since I started the diet, which is why I was wondering why dark was such a big deal. To me dark meat tastes better and is more satisfying. So I'll eat less chicken over all than if I had white meat. My weight loss has tapered off, but that's because I totally cheated on Saturday. I should probably do Phase 1 for one more week, I'll see what I weigh today and decide. Thanks for the help! > I have only anecdotal evidence that dark meat > isn't bad. If I am having chicken I prefer dark > meat and have had it during SBD, though not > often. It hasn't affected my weight-loss either > way. > > I say try dark meat, if that is what you prefer, > and watch the scale. If it goes up, go back to > white meat. :-) > > B. > One pound UNDER my second goal! WOOHOO!! > 172 144 145 > > > --- Owen wrote: > > > It's the old " white meat good, dark meat bad " > > thing. Personally I'd > > like to know exactly how bad skinnless chicken > > thighs really are. > > According to this site, they may not be that > > bad. > > > > > http://www.weightlossforall.com/calories-chicken.htm > > > > Or this from www.family4life.com " Chicken > > Thighs ... are higher in > > fat and calories than breasts, but as long as > > you remove the skin and > > any excess fat, economical thighs fit into a > > good-for-you diet. they > > also provide 25 percent more iron and more than > > twice as much zinc as > > the same amount of breast meat. " > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > --- wrote: > > > Hi , > > > > > > Welcome to the group. The only thing I can > > really add here is that > > I know > > > that thighs have a lot of fat in them, so > > that may be the reason. > > Others on > > > this group are so very knowledgeable and I am > > sure you will get a > > bunch of > > > your questions answered!!! > > > > > > good luck! and take care > > > > > > > > > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. > > For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 > It's the old " white meat good, dark meat bad " thing. Personally I'd > like to know exactly how bad skinnless chicken thighs really are. I'm a dark meat person and DH is a white meat person. Between the two of us, we can eat one chicken. Just like Jack Sprat and his wife! LOL!!! There is more fat in different places on a piece of dark meat. On white meat the fat is usually in one place and comes off easily. But I have found that if I cook the chicken until done and don't let the meat sit in the grease, the dark meat is just as non-fatty as the white. For those who may not know the Jack Sprat reference, it's from a nursery rhyme. Jack Sprat could eat no fat, His wife could eat no lean. And so betwixt them both, you see, They licked the platter clean. -- Ann You spend your life fighting dirt, and when you die they bury you in it. hayakawa@... North Bend, Oregon, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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