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Doesn't this border on the puerile??????????????

Alan Ross wrote:

Hey all,

I, too, have gone into the "Friends of Bill" chat room on yahoo.

My friend

and I will go in there together sometimes. That makes it much

more

interesting.

My two favorite schemes are:

1. One of us pretends they are a newcomer, just repeating slogans

and

bonding with the others for a few minutes. Then the other comes

in and

tries convincing the other to drink. The "newcomer" puts up a

strong fight

at first, and then eventually gives in. So fun to watch them

sqirm.

2. Me and my friend both barrage people with "You are BRAINWASHED",

"You

are in a cult", "Get out NOW", "You are very much in danger", and the

like.

With this one, it is very important that as soon as it is obvious that

we

are there to stir up trouble, I make sure to type "ATTENTION ALL:

PUTTING

ME ON IGNORE WILL DEFINITELY PROVE THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND TRYING

TO

SHUT OUT REALITY". This usually disuades most people from using

ignore

(they are so spiritually strong, after all, that they don't need to).

But

then really just dig in. Attack everything that everyone says.

Its

definitely cool doing it with someone else.

Anywayz,

That's my story and I'm stickin to it........

Alan

http://www.webroads.net/isser

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Hello Alan

With a little chicanery you could probably go in twice and persuae

yuorself to drink....

Seriously, do you actually do this or you being an agent provocateur?

" alan ross " wrote:

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> Hey all,

>

> I, too, have gone into the " Friends of Bill " chat room on yahoo. My

friend

> and I will go in there together sometimes. That makes it much more

> interesting.

>

> My two favorite schemes are:

>

> 1. One of us pretends they are a newcomer, just repeating slogans

and

> bonding with the others for a few minutes. Then the other comes in

and

> tries convincing the other to drink. The " newcomer " puts up a strong

fight

> at first, and then eventually gives in. So fun to watch them sqirm.

>

> 2. Me and my friend both barrage people with " You are BRAINWASHED " ,

" You

> are in a cult " , " Get out NOW " , " You are very much in danger " , and the

like.

> With this one, it is very important that as soon as it is obvious

that we

> are there to stir up trouble, I make sure to type " ATTENTION ALL:

PUTTING

> ME ON IGNORE WILL DEFINITELY PROVE THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND

TRYING TO

> SHUT OUT REALITY " . This usually disuades most people from using

ignore

> (they are so spiritually strong, after all, that they don't need to).

But

> then really just dig in. Attack everything that everyone says. Its

> definitely cool doing it with someone else.

>

> Anywayz,

>

> That's my story and I'm stickin to it........

>

>

>

> Alan

> http://www.webroads.net/isser

> ______________________________________________________

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Great word is, and to answer your question--yes, it does. In fact, there is nothing borderline about this behavior, it's juvenile to the bone. There is enough real stuff going on in the way of messed up thinking (I myself have been known to respond to this) in those AA chat rooms, they don't need outside instigation to create more.

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Re: Yahoo chat

Doesn't this border on the puerile?????????????? Alan Ross wrote: Hey all, I, too, have gone into the "Friends of Bill" chat room on yahoo. My friend and I will go in there together sometimes. That makes it much more interesting. My two favorite schemes are: 1. One of us pretends they are a newcomer, just repeating slogans and bonding with the others for a few minutes. Then the other comes in and tries convincing the other to drink. The "newcomer" puts up a strong fight at first, and then eventually gives in. So fun to watch them sqirm. 2. Me and my friend both barrage people with "You are BRAINWASHED", "You are in a cult", "Get out NOW", "You are very much in danger", and the like. With this one, it is very important that as soon as it is obvious that we are there to stir up trouble, I make sure to type "ATTENTION ALL: PUTTING ME ON IGNORE WILL DEFINITELY PROVE THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND TRYING TO SHUT OUT REALITY". This usually disuades most people from using ignore (they are so spiritually strong, after all, that they don't need to). But then really just dig in. Attack everything that everyone says. Its definitely cool doing it with someone else. Anywayz, That's my story and I'm stickin to it........ Alan http://www.webroads.net/isser ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of missing calls while online? Now you can surf the Internet without worrying about missing important calls! CallWave's FREE Internet Answering Machine lets you hear who's calling while online. http://click./1/1927/1/_/4324/_/951961924/ -- Create a poll/survey for your group! -- /vote?listname=12-step-free & m=1

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In a message dated 3/2/00 12:56:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

llawrence@... writes:

> My two favorite schemes are:

>

> 1. One of us pretends they are a newcomer, just repeating slogans and

> bonding with the others for a few minutes. Then the other comes in

and

> tries convincing the other to drink. The " newcomer " puts up a strong

> fight

> at first, and then eventually gives in. So fun to watch them sqirm.

>

> 2. Me and my friend both barrage people with " You are BRAINWASHED " , "

> You

> are in a cult " , " Get out NOW " , " You are very much in danger " , and the

> like.

> With this one, it is very important that as soon as it is obvious that

> we

> are there to stir up trouble, I make sure to type " ATTENTION ALL:

> PUTTING

> ME ON IGNORE WILL DEFINITELY PROVE THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND TRYING

> TO

> SHUT OUT REALITY " . This usually disuades most people from using

ignore

> (they are so spiritually strong, after all, that they don't need to).

> But

> then really just dig in. Attack everything that everyone says. Its

> definitely cool doing it with someone else.

>

> Anywayz,

You guys are just sooooooooo cool!!!!!!!

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At 17:52 01/03/00 -0800, you wrote:

>Hey all,

>

>I, too, have gone into the " Friends of Bill " chat room on yahoo. My

>friend and I will go in there together sometimes. That makes it much more

>interesting.

>

>My two favorite schemes are:

>

>1. One of us pretends they are a newcomer, just repeating slogans and

>bonding with the others for a few minutes. Then the other comes in and

>tries convincing the other to drink. The " newcomer " puts up a strong

>fight at first, and then eventually gives in. So fun to watch them sqirm.

>

>2. Me and my friend both barrage people with " You are BRAINWASHED " , " You

>are in a cult " , " Get out NOW " , " You are very much in danger " , and the like.

>With this one, it is very important that as soon as it is obvious that we

>are there to stir up trouble, I make sure to type " ATTENTION ALL: PUTTING

>ME ON IGNORE WILL DEFINITELY PROVE THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND TRYING TO

>SHUT OUT REALITY " . This usually disuades most people from using ignore

>(they are so spiritually strong, after all, that they don't need to). But

>then really just dig in. Attack everything that everyone says. Its

>definitely cool doing it with someone else.

>

>Anywayz,

>

>That's my story and I'm stickin to it........

>

>Alan

This approach doesn't appeal to me- it sounds very similar to what some

abusive steppers do on the net already- attack everything that everyone

says. In fact it was that tactic of theirs that led to the forming of this

email list. I think the greatest attraction of the 12 step free perspective

is that it potentially gives people back the use of their own minds, and

allows them to think things through and come to their own decisions,

without being browbeaten, controlled, shamed, abused, or flooded with

garbage. Thus arguing from a rational perspective makes sense. This is what

attracted me to the post-12-step world- the people who were criticising the

12 step philosophy actually made excellent sense, in contrast to the

arguments of the steopers, who generally made no sense at all and who

resorted to personal attacks on people every time they posted something.

The people who argued rationally were a very good example of mental health

and self-determination and that was a good motivation for me to explore

further and drop my last vestigial reliance on the 12 step program.

Joe B.

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This is a hoot Alan! I'd be game for the first one. Har har har.

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>

> My two favorite schemes are:

>

> 1. One of us pretends they are a newcomer, just repeating slogans

and

> bonding with the others for a few minutes. Then the other comes in

and

> tries convincing the other to drink. The " newcomer " puts up a strong

fight

> at first, and then eventually gives in. So fun to watch them sqirm.

> _______________________________________

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Puerile? Yeah. What's so bad about puerility? I guess we'll have to

start a separate list for myself, Alan and other males who can't help

ourselves. Call it the Puerile 12-Step-Free Zone or something like

that.

alexis wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12889

> Doesn't this border on the puerile??????????????

>

> Alan Ross wrote:

>

> > Hey all,

> >

> > I, too, have gone into the " Friends of Bill " chat room on yahoo.

My friend

> > and I will go in there together sometimes. That makes it much more

> > interesting.

> >

> > My two favorite schemes are:

> >

> > 1. One of us pretends they are a newcomer, just repeating slogans

and

> > bonding with the others for a few minutes. Then the other comes in

and

> > tries convincing the other to drink. The " newcomer " puts up a

strong fight

> > at first, and then eventually gives in. So fun to watch them sqirm.

> >

> > 2. Me and my friend both barrage people with " You are

BRAINWASHED " , " You

> > are in a cult " , " Get out NOW " , " You are very much in danger " , and

the like.

> > With this one, it is very important that as soon as it is obvious

that we

> > are there to stir up trouble, I make sure to type " ATTENTION ALL:

PUTTING

> > ME ON IGNORE WILL DEFINITELY PROVE THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND

TRYING TO

> > SHUT OUT REALITY " . This usually disuades most people from using

ignore

> > (they are so spiritually strong, after all, that they don't need

to). But

> > then really just dig in. Attack everything that everyone says. Its

> > definitely cool doing it with someone else.

> >

> > Anywayz,

> >

> > That's my story and I'm stickin to it........

> >

> > Alan

> > http://www.webroads.net/isser

> > ______________________________________________________

> >

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miken-@... wrote:

> You guys are just sooooooooo cool!!!!!!!

Looks like dumbass you have fallen for the agent provacateur tactic.

Come back when you have grown frontal lobes.

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