Re: Another possible poll?

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In a message dated 6/7/2004 7:21:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

greyeyesinfla@... writes:

> I found out that alot of us don't have any moons/half moons in

> our fingernails.

I didn't...but I'm getting them back after 3 mos. of meds. And my

fingernails are growing so fast I can't hardly stand it...but I shouldn't

complain. The

vertical ridges seem to be getting better too.

Cindi

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I remember a long time ago having those half moons on the nails, but I don't

anymore. I never noticed till I saw this post. Very interesting.

SandyE~Houston

Another possible poll?

Hi Janie:

I asked this question in another thyroid group and was surprised at

the responses.

Before I got my " official " hypothyroidism diagnosis, the doctor I

was seeing at that time (30 years ago) looked at my fingernails and

said " we need to check your thyroid because I see you don't have any

moons in your fingernails. "

When I posted this in another group, and some of y'all will remember

this, I found out that alot of us don't have any moons/half moons in

our fingernails. I only have little ones in both thumbs, none in

the other fingers.

Was wondering how many others are the same?

Debbie J.

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Hi, Debbie,

Seems like I do remember hearing this somewhere before. Yep, I have good ones

on my thumbs and that's just about it. Glad you mentioned this. I've suspected

my

son having a thyroid problem. He had more than I do but he's missing some.

Maybe he'll get the doctor to check.

And our medication doesn't change this problem?

in Va.

Hi Janie:

I asked this question in another thyroid group and was surprised at

the responses.

Before I got my " official " hypothyroidism diagnosis, the doctor I

was seeing at that time (30 years ago) looked at my fingernails and

said " we need to check your thyroid because I see you don't have any

moons in your fingernails. "

When I posted this in another group, and some of y'all will remember

this, I found out that alot of us don't have any moons/half moons in

our fingernails. I only have little ones in both thumbs, none in

the other fingers.

Was wondering how many others are the same?

Debbie J.

[Guest guest]

same here

Lynda

----- Original Message -----

From: Debbie

I only have little ones in both thumbs, none in

the other fingers.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/8/2004 9:37:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

marianne@... writes:

> , premature gray

> hair

I've got this one...went gray back in my 30s.

cindi

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Hi Debby,

Giggle giggle, this is funny, my only troubled right 'thumb-nail',

has an enlarged white moon! It's bow covers nearly half of the nail.

I only noticed today since you mentioned it. My other 9 finger-nails

are ok and have normal white moons. Although, when I study them a

little more, the moons are not that white as they used to be. They

have almost the same colour as the rest of the nail. Interesting.

And, as describes vertical ridges, mine are horizontal, if I

keep my thumb up! (grin).

Kim.

> Hi Janie:

>

> I asked this question in another thyroid group and was surprised

at

> the responses.

>

> Before I got my " official " hypothyroidism diagnosis, the doctor I

> was seeing at that time (30 years ago) looked at my fingernails

and

> said " we need to check your thyroid because I see you don't have

any

> moons in your fingernails. "

>

> When I posted this in another group, and some of y'all will

remember

> this, I found out that alot of us don't have any moons/half moons

in

> our fingernails. I only have little ones in both thumbs, none in

> the other fingers.

>

> Was wondering how many others are the same?

>

> Debbie J.

[Guest guest]

Another interesting thing to poll would be a short pinky finger. (The

smallest finger is shorter than the first knuckle of the adjacent finger.)

My son has this, and I have it on one hand.

I have moons in my thumbs only, but I do remember having them on all fingers

when I was younger. I can remember polishing my fingernails, and leaving the

half moons plain. So I KNOW they were there, and they are gone now.

I have some other interesting characteristics listed as, premature gray

hair, missing the outer third of the eyebrow, splayed fingertips. The

voltage on the electrocardiogram will be low.

nne

I remember a long time ago having those half moons on the nails, but I don't

anymore. I never noticed till I saw this post. Very interesting.

Hi Janie:

I asked this question in another thyroid group and was surprised at

the responses.

Before I got my " official " hypothyroidism diagnosis, the doctor I

was seeing at that time (30 years ago) looked at my fingernails and

said " we need to check your thyroid because I see you don't have any

moons in your fingernails. "

When I posted this in another group, and some of y'all will remember

this, I found out that alot of us don't have any moons/half moons in

our fingernails. I only have little ones in both thumbs, none in

the other fingers.

Was wondering how many others are the same?

Debbie J.

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my nails are a real mess. Sort of moons on my thumbs. none on the other ones.

lumpy - especially the thumbs. short, thin, break - splotchy underneath. right

now there are no holes in them - and they are pretty much grown out to the end

of my fingers. I have believed this is thyroid for ages.

CRis

Another possible poll?

Hi Janie:

I asked this question in another thyroid group and was surprised at

the responses.

Before I got my " official " hypothyroidism diagnosis, the doctor I

was seeing at that time (30 years ago) looked at my fingernails and

said " we need to check your thyroid because I see you don't have any

moons in your fingernails. "

When I posted this in another group, and some of y'all will remember

this, I found out that alot of us don't have any moons/half moons in

our fingernails. I only have little ones in both thumbs, none in

the other fingers.

Was wondering how many others are the same?

Debbie J.

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First gray hair when I was 16 - and of course I just gained more and more of

them. I just turned 40 and the front is gray and the back is black. I have

decided today to have those grays covered. When I was younger I didn't mind

them, but now that I feel like I'm old, I'm ready to look my age not my

mother's age.

Jen

-- Re: Another possible poll?

In a message dated 6/8/2004 9:37:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

marianne@... writes:

> , premature gray

> hair

I've got this one...went gray back in my 30s.

cindi

[Guest guest]

nne,

What do you mean when you say the voltage on the electrocardiogram will be low?

Shelli

RE: Another possible poll?

Another interesting thing to poll would be a short pinky finger. (The

smallest finger is shorter than the first knuckle of the adjacent finger.)

My son has this, and I have it on one hand.

I have moons in my thumbs only, but I do remember having them on all fingers

when I was younger. I can remember polishing my fingernails, and leaving the

half moons plain. So I KNOW they were there, and they are gone now.

I have some other interesting characteristics listed as, premature gray

hair, missing the outer third of the eyebrow, splayed fingertips. The

voltage on the electrocardiogram will be low.

nne

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Shelli,

I don't know, the list was not mine, only copied from a book. I do know the

author, and could ask her if you really want to know.

nne

nne,

What do you mean when you say the voltage on the electrocardiogram will be

low?

Shelli

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nne,

This statement just got me wondering when I heard low voltage and electro

because I have a lot of static electricity in my body. I know this doesn't have

anything to do with an electrocardiogram but I just wondered if hypo people

maybe have a difference in their body's electricty. No one else has static

electricity and I always do. It, of course, is worse in winter when the furnace

is running and drying out the air but even then I am always getting shocks when

no one else does and my hair stands on end when no one else's does. It drives me

crazy. I've been curious at to why this happens to just me.

This is probably completely not relative.

Shelli

RE: Another possible poll?

Shelli,

I don't know, the list was not mine, only copied from a book. I do know the

author, and could ask her if you really want to know.

nne

[Guest guest]

Hi Shelli,

I think it may be relative. I get shocks from a lot of things - my car, garage

door, stairwell railings etc. I have also heard a lot of people on other

thyroid groups say the same thing.

Lynda (in the UK)

Re: Another possible poll?

nne,

This statement just got me wondering when I heard low voltage and electro

because I have a lot of static electricity in my body. I know this doesn't have

anything to do with an electrocardiogram but I just wondered if hypo people

maybe have a difference in their body's electricty. No one else has static

electricity and I always do. It, of course, is worse in winter when the furnace

is running and drying out the air but even then I am always getting shocks when

no one else does and my hair stands on end when no one else's does. It drives me

crazy. I've been curious at to why this happens to just me.

This is probably completely not relative.

Shelli

[Guest guest]

Wow, so I'm not completely off my rocker! Wooohoo! Sorry, got a little carried

away. That is kind of bizarre, don't ya think. I wonder why it happens. Oh well,

another mystery.

Thanks for telling me this though. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed

this.

Shelli

Hi Shelli,

I think it may be relative. I get shocks from a lot of things - my car,

garage door, stairwell railings etc. I have also heard a lot of people on

other thyroid groups say the same thing.

Lynda (in the UK)

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I wrote a note to my son's doctor to check his thyroid. He doesn't have an apt.

at this point - but he has a sinus infection, and will no doubt need to go. My

son (22) found the note, and asked me what it was about. He just shook his head

at me!! my son is ADD - and is very much not with it - plus, he has some other

'symptoms' that make me think he could be hypo - so - hopefully, I can talk him

into it. I can't force him to do it at 22 - nor, can I force his doctor into

checking. I can, change his doctor though, to mine. but I don't know if she'd

think a 22 year old would need to be checked for thyroid problems. When I see

him the next time - tomorrow, actually - he's off (works from 3pm- 1 AM ) - I'm

going to look to see if he has moons....

Cris

Re: Another possible poll?

Hi, Debbie,

Seems like I do remember hearing this somewhere before. Yep, I have good ones

on my thumbs and that's just about it. Glad you mentioned this. I've suspected

my

son having a thyroid problem. He had more than I do but he's missing some.

Maybe he'll get the doctor to check.

And our medication doesn't change this problem?

in Va.

[Guest guest]

most of mine are vertical - very fine ones. MY bad ones are vertical - like

lumps - and I have dimples too. this is really facinating - we should all take

pictues and put them in the files section!! LOLmy thumbs actually sort of have

huge moons a dark ring around the outer edge with paler color inside. no white.

All of mine have a darker red ring where the moon would end, with paler on both

sides. and darker tips. I'm waiting for my liver enzyme test results - I

understand the outer red rings can be a problem with the liver due to meds -

hoping that isn't the case.

Cris

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Hi Debby,

Giggle giggle, this is funny, my only troubled right 'thumb-nail',

has an enlarged white moon! It's bow covers nearly half of the nail.

I only noticed today since you mentioned it. My other 9 finger-nails

are ok and have normal white moons. Although, when I study them a

little more, the moons are not that white as they used to be. They

have almost the same colour as the rest of the nail. Interesting.

And, as describes vertical ridges, mine are horizontal, if I

keep my thumb up! (grin).

Kim.

[Guest guest]

OH MY!! you mean our pinkies are supposed to be longer than that? seriously??

my pointers are both curved in at the tips - seriously curved in -

Cris

RE: Another possible poll?

Another interesting thing to poll would be a short pinky finger. (The

smallest finger is shorter than the first knuckle of the adjacent finger.)

My son has this, and I have it on one hand.

I have moons in my thumbs only, but I do remember having them on all fingers

when I was younger. I can remember polishing my fingernails, and leaving the

half moons plain. So I KNOW they were there, and they are gone now.

I have some other interesting characteristics listed as, premature gray

hair, missing the outer third of the eyebrow, splayed fingertips. The

voltage on the electrocardiogram will be low.

Was wondering how many others are the same?

Debbie J.

[Guest guest]

Why do some have vertical ridges and others horizontal? Or am I

exceptional? (ofcourse I am). This is the weirdest discussion I have

ever encounterd on a thyroid forum, however very interesting!

My right thumb is up for the poll! (It wants to get famous, depicted

in the files section). LOL!

And Cris, my white moons also have a darker red ring on the outer

edge, while the white is salmon pink. Could it be lack of silica

also?

Kim.

> most of mine are vertical - very fine ones. MY bad ones are

vertical - like

> lumps - and I have dimples too. this is really facinating - we

should all take

> pictues and put them in the files section!! LOLmy thumbs actually

sort of have

> huge moons a dark ring around the outer edge with paler color

inside. no white.

> All of mine have a darker red ring where the moon would end, with

paler on both

> sides. and darker tips. I'm waiting for my liver enzyme test

results - I

> understand the outer red rings can be a problem with the liver due

to meds -

> hoping that isn't the case.

> Cris

>

> - - Re: Another possible poll?

>

>

> Hi Debby,

>

> Giggle giggle, this is funny, my only troubled right 'thumb-nail',

> has an enlarged white moon! It's bow covers nearly half of the

nail.

> I only noticed today since you mentioned it. My other 9 finger-

nails

> are ok and have normal white moons. Although, when I study them a

> little more, the moons are not that white as they used to be. They

> have almost the same colour as the rest of the nail. Interesting.

>

> And, as describes vertical ridges, mine are horizontal, if I

> keep my thumb up! (grin).

>

> Kim.

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Hi All,

when I saw Dr. Shoemaker in the states, he asked me if I got shocks off of

things.. he said its connected to our low adreno cortico steroid hormones so

we are always a bit dehydrated... weeing lots... often a sign of diabetes

insipidus or at least partial diabetes insipidus (a neat get out of

treatment for the NHS)... an osmolality test proved him to be right. I now

take a spray of desmopressin at night and at least it means I don't have to

get up 6 times to go to the toilet.

he said that the tissue salts form on the skin and that creates the

conductivity on the skin so we get shocks off of things.. this is also

common in chronic lyme disease.

Jane

Re: Another possible poll?

>

>

> nne,

> This statement just got me wondering when I heard low voltage and

electro because I have a lot of static electricity in my body. I know this

doesn't have anything to do with an electrocardiogram but I just wondered if

hypo people maybe have a difference in their body's electricty. No one else

has static electricity and I always do. It, of course, is worse in winter

when the furnace is running and drying out the air but even then I am always

getting shocks when no one else does and my hair stands on end when no one

else's does. It drives me crazy. I've been curious at to why this happens to

just me.

> This is probably completely not relative.

> Shelli

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting! I do have a short pinky finger. I don't have premature gray hair

though. I do have the missing

outer third of my eyebrows, as does my son. What is splayed fingertips? I know

what splay-leg is with

cockatiels, but I can't imagine what splay fingertips would be.

in Va.

Another interesting thing to poll would be a short pinky finger. (The

smallest finger is shorter than the first knuckle of the adjacent finger.)

My son has this, and I have it on one hand.

I have moons in my thumbs only, but I do remember having them on all fingers

when I was younger. I can remember polishing my fingernails, and leaving the

half moons plain. So I KNOW they were there, and they are gone now.

I have some other interesting characteristics listed as, premature gray

hair, missing the outer third of the eyebrow, splayed fingertips. The

voltage on the electrocardiogram will be low.

nne

I

[Guest guest]

I started the horsetail - it takes 3 months for a nail to fully grow out, so in

about a month, I should know if something is working here!!

CRis

Re: Another possible poll?

Why do some have vertical ridges and others horizontal? Or am I

exceptional? (ofcourse I am). This is the weirdest discussion I have

ever encounterd on a thyroid forum, however very interesting!

My right thumb is up for the poll! (It wants to get famous, depicted

in the files section). LOL!

And Cris, my white moons also have a darker red ring on the outer

edge, while the white is salmon pink. Could it be lack of silica

also?

Kim.

[Guest guest]

I was treated for lymes about 8 years ago. Had the bulls eye rash, but never

tested positive. but had the extreme exhaustion from it. on top of the CFS - it

wasn't fun.

Cris

Re: Another possible poll?

Hi All,

when I saw Dr. Shoemaker in the states, he asked me if I got shocks off of

things.. he said its connected to our low adreno cortico steroid hormones so

we are always a bit dehydrated... weeing lots... often a sign of diabetes

[Guest guest]

Amazing!

I have Hashimotos. I have been hyper 3 times that I know of (from

lab results) and then hypo. I of course tested positive for

antibodies.

My pinkies are shorter too!

I never noticed till this discussion but I only have moons on my

first three finger nails, gone on the ring finger and pinkie. They

get smaller as the go from thumb to middle finger.

I know they use to be there. I also have vertical ridges in my thumb

nails.

As far as gray hair I found my first " white hair " at age 16. I am

now 44 and about 60 – 75 % white. (I keep it colored)

I had big babies too!

I don't know if I was hypo or hyper during pregnancies. I do know I

would get real flushed, heart would race and blood pressure would

shoot up for about 30 minutes at a time, then I would go back to

normal.

Second pregnancy was horrible. At 3 months my optometrist told me my

corneas were sloughing off excess dead cells. He told me to have my

thyroid checked. My doc said it would not be correct since I was

pregnant but checked it anyway. I do not know what he check,

probably just TSH and said it was fine. I had horrible heart

palpitations around 120. Once I went to the doc because I was

feeling so bad and the nurse could not even get a pulse count on me

because it was jumping around so much it would co from 80 – 120 in

about 90 seconds. I had preterm labor and delivered 4 weeks early

1st pregnancy girl 4 days late 8 lbs 15 oz. (shall we say 9 lbs)

22 " long

2nd pregnancy girl 4 weeks early 7lb 4 oz 19' long

I am 5'4 " and my normal weight (be for Hashi " s) 120 lbs.

My oldest daughter has tested positive for antibodies her pinkies

are short too.

My youngest pinkies are shot and she has ADD.

[Guest guest]

Wow Debbie, I had never noticed that before. The half moons only show on my

thumbs.

Jody

When I posted this in another group, and some of y'all will remember

this, I found out that alot of us don't have any moons/half moons in

our fingernails. I only have little ones in both thumbs, none in

the other fingers.

Was wondering how many others are the same?

Debbie J.

[Guest guest]

I'm always getting shocked too!

in va.

nne,

This statement just got me wondering when I heard low voltage and electro

because I have a lot of static electricity in my body. I know this doesn't have

anything to do with an electrocardiogram but I just wondered if hypo people

maybe have a difference in their body's electricty. No one else has static

electricity and I always do. It, of course, is worse in winter when the furnace

is running and drying out the air but even then I am always getting shocks when

no one else does and my hair stands on end when no one else's does. It drives me

crazy. I've been curious at to why this happens to just me.

This is probably completely not relative.

Shelli