Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 In a message dated 6/7/2004 8:37:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, d_timmsjosey@... writes: > Can anyone tell me if cervical dysplasia (pre-cancerous cells of the > cervix) are related to Hashimoto's or thyroid disease don't know, ...but I do have nabothilian (sp?) cysts on the cervix which are just benign cysts...and since being diagnosed hypo I've wondered if they are related. I also have ovarian cysts which docs wanted to operate on several years ago (but I didn't) as well as a thickened uterine lining (which I also will not have biopsied). I'm counting on Armour to correct all these things. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 HPV is considered the main cause of it. That is why anyone with HPV needs tested every 6 months. Aside from that, I don't know, but to the best of my knowledge other than a lowered immune issue, the thyroid or Hashi has nothing to do with it. cervical dysplasia Can anyone tell me if cervical dysplasia (pre-cancerous cells of the cervix) are related to Hashimoto's or thyroid disease? Just curious because my mother has battled painful periods, ovarian cysts, and pre-cancerous cervical cells for years and years now. I wonder if there is a relation. \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 http://www.health-science-report.com/ \this says nutrition but so far unfounded http://lib-sh.lsumc.edu/fammed/pted/hpvmid.html http://www.womenshealthchannel.com/cervicaldysplasia/index.shtml cervical dysplasia Can anyone tell me if cervical dysplasia (pre-cancerous cells of the cervix) are related to Hashimoto's or thyroid disease? Just curious because my mother has battled painful periods, ovarian cysts, and pre-cancerous cervical cells for years and years now. I wonder if there is a relation. Also, I thought she was getting her results back today (she had to schedule a consultation with her doctor in order to get her results. They won't give them over the phone), but it is actually next Monday. Ridiculous! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 http://www.pap101.com/cause.htm this says estrogen dominance. You need to google. A friend of mine is doing a study on this subject of cause and effect cervical dysplasia Can anyone tell me if cervical dysplasia (pre-cancerous cells of the cervix) are related to Hashimoto's or thyroid disease? Just curious because my mother has battled painful periods, ovarian cysts, and pre-cancerous cervical cells for years and years now. I wonder if there is a relation. Also, I thought she was getting her results back today (she had to schedule a consultation with her doctor in order to get her results. They won't give them over the phone), but it is actually next Monday. Ridiculous! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 I'm counting on Armour to correct all these > things. > Cindi > >Thanks Cindi! Just curious if anyone else had these chronic problems. I remember when I was a kid, she would be doubled over in horrible pain from her periods. She used to have to take a drug called ponstan or something like that. She has had these abnormal paps off and on for many years. I asked her if they looked for HPV last summer and she didn't know, but said they checked for everything. She is on HRT and that really scares me because we already have those fibrocystic breasts. Taking HRT gives you a 100% high chance of getting breast cancer. SInce we are already predisposed with this lumpoy breat thing, I really want her to try some natural alternatives. She said she is reluctant because she was a complete mess before hormones and they gave her energy and got rid of some of the irritablility and physical symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 > HPV is considered the main cause of it. That is why anyone with HPV needs tested every 6 months. Aside from that, I don't know, but to the best of my knowledge other than a lowered immune issue, the thyroid or Hashi has nothing to do with it. Thank you! I will pass all your information on to her . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I have a few e-mails on estrogen dominance that I'd be glad to send to anyone interested. Just let me know. in Va. http://www.pap101.com/cause.htm this says estrogen dominance. You need to google. A friend of mine is doing a study on this subject of cause and effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Hi, Cindi, I've been on Armour for 4 years. (I was on Synthroid for 25 years). I recently saw my GYN and she discovered a fibroid and a slightly thickened uterine lining. I had the biopsy done and was told I was OK. However, I've been tested to switch from regular HRT to natural HRT. I'm hoping this will get rid of these problems. Estrogen dominance can certainly cause these problems. I do have some e-mails with info on this if you're interested. Take care! in VA. > Can anyone tell me if cervical dysplasia (pre-cancerous cells of the > cervix) are related to Hashimoto's or thyroid disease don't know, ...but I do have nabothilian (sp?) cysts on the cervix which are just benign cysts...and since being diagnosed hypo I've wondered if they are related. I also have ovarian cysts which docs wanted to operate on several years ago (but I didn't) as well as a thickened uterine lining (which I also will not have biopsied). I'm counting on Armour to correct all these things. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 In a message dated 6/8/2004 3:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, cubfan23@... writes: > Estrogen dominance can certainly cause these problems. > I do have some e-mails with info on this if you're interested Thanks ...but I actually have done a lot of research in the past on Estrogen Dominance when I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me...when the thyroid labs were " normal " . I have used natural progesterone cream with success before being diagnosed hypo. As I got sicker, I just sorta stopped it...but plan to get back on it now that I'm sorta stable with the Armour. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I understand where your mom is coming from - I have the fibrocystic breasts - and am on estrogen replacement only - probably a big mistake. My sister went off of her HRT and we really thought she lost it - she got so mentally confused - we still are wondering if she actually has early alzheimers - she's back on hrt - and doing better - not 100% though. The symptoms seem somehow worse than when our parents went thru this. not sure why - or if we just think it is. my mom had no problems - ever! I've always had problems, since my very first period. I had debiliatating cramps. Have had surgeries for endometriosis, male hormones for endo - now have only one avary because the endometriosis cysts on the right one were so severe it had to be removed. I've had a few cysts on my remaining left one, but not bad. My 1st abnormal pap was done just prior to my uterous & cervix being removed, so it didn't matter. this was in 1991. I am, however, going to talk to my gyny about bio-identical hormones. I talked to my sister too, and she promised she'd ask about her thyroid and bio-identical hormones. She has an apt. this summer. My aunt took replacement hormones for a while - and was having trouble. let me tell you - I wouldn't be taking them at late 60's and still be having periods - no way, now how!! I never had a period that didn't have me so ill and in so much pain that I could function. now - my daughter is 17. She started out ok, but last summer, she started with the nasty ones. pains, nauseousness. I prayed she wouldn't be like me. Cris Re: cervical dysplasia I'm counting on Armour to correct all these > things. > Cindi > >Thanks Cindi! Just curious if anyone else had these chronic problems. I remember when I was a kid, she would be doubled over in horrible pain from her periods. She used to have to take a drug called ponstan or something like that. She has had these abnormal paps off and on for many years. I asked her if they looked for HPV last summer and she didn't know, but said they checked for everything. She is on HRT and that really scares me because we already have those fibrocystic breasts. Taking HRT gives you a 100% high chance of getting breast cancer. SInce we are already predisposed with this lumpoy breat thing, I really want her to try some natural alternatives. She said she is reluctant because she was a complete mess before hormones and they gave her energy and got rid of some of the irritablility and physical symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Is this what your other e-mail was about? I'd love them please!! someone here mentioned I might have it. I found one really good web page - and it sounds a lot like me... http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/Estrogen_Dominance.cfm thanks! cris Re: cervical dysplasia I have a few e-mails on estrogen dominance that I'd be glad to send to anyone interested. Just let me know. in Va. http://www.pap101.com/cause.htm this says estrogen dominance. You need to google. A friend of mine is doing a study on this subject of cause and effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 After I very first started having HYPERthyroid symptoms, I started the heavy ongoing periods, more cramps, fibroid tumors, cervical dysplasia, with documented evidence of no progesterone, but plenty of estrogen dominance. What I finally got out of this was a hysterectomy, but, of course, went on to learn many yrs later that it was thyroid disease that cause the whole thing. It's sort of one of those which came first, the chicken or the egg things. We've all noticed that there's an awful lot of us who had progesterone loss even back into our 20s, so it wasn't an " aging " thing. I don't regret the hyst because, after the surgery, I felt like someone had removed a rather large cannon ball from my insides! Re: cervical dysplasia > Can anyone tell me if cervical dysplasia (pre-cancerous cells of the cervix) are related to Hashimoto's or thyroid disease? Just curious because my mother has battled painful periods, ovarian cysts, and pre-cancerous cervical cells for years and years now. I wonder if there is a relation. Also, I thought she was getting her results back today (she had to schedule a consultation with her doctor in order to get her results. They won't give them over the phone), but it is actually next Monday. Ridiculous! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 oh, I agree - my dr. first was only going to remove my damaged ovary - but with endometriosis so bad, I said - you know, it will just come back - he agreed. I was so relieved. of course, I still have endometrial tissue because the hormones feed it - and it couldn't all be removed because there are implants on my intestines and bladder. Still - a lot could have been thyroid related - hard to tell though - those problems started very young for me. Cris Re: cervical dysplasia After I very first started having HYPERthyroid symptoms, I started the heavy ongoing periods, more cramps, fibroid tumors, cervical dysplasia, with documented evidence of no progesterone, but plenty of estrogen dominance. What I finally got out of this was a hysterectomy, but, of course, went on to learn many yrs later that it was thyroid disease that cause the whole thing. It's sort of one of those which came first, the chicken or the egg things. We've all noticed that there's an awful lot of us who had progesterone loss even back into our 20s, so it wasn't an " aging " thing. I don't regret the hyst because, after the surgery, I felt like someone had removed a rather large cannon ball from my insides! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Have you read Dr. Lee's book, " What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Menopause " ? There's one on perimenopause too. I've only read the one on menopause. Excellent book. in Va. I understand where your mom is coming from - I have the fibrocystic breasts - and am on estrogen replacement only - probably a big mistake. My sister went off of her HRT and we really thought she lost it - she got so mentally confused - we still are wondering if she actually has early alzheimers - she's back on hrt - and doing better - not 100% though. The symptoms seem somehow worse than when our parents went thru this. not sure why - or if we just think it is. my mom had no problems - ever! I've always had problems, since my very first period. I had debiliatating cramps. Have had surgeries for endometriosis, male hormones for endo - now have only one avary because the endometriosis cysts on the right one were so severe it had to be removed. I've had a few cysts on my remaining left one, but not bad. My 1st abnormal pap was done just prior to my uterous & cervix being removed, so it didn't matter. this was in 1991. I am, however, going to talk to my gyny about bio-identical hormones. I talked to my sister too, and she promised she'd ask about her thyroid and bio-identical hormones. She has an apt. this summer. My aunt took replacement hormones for a while - and was having trouble. let me tell you - I wouldn't be taking them at late 60's and still be having periods - no way, now how!! I never had a period that didn't have me so ill and in so much pain that I could function. now - my daughter is 17. She started out ok, but last summer, she started with the nasty ones. pains, nauseousness. I prayed she wouldn't be like me. Cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 no, I haven't. I ordered so many books about a month ago, I shut myself off! LOL I should get this - or put it on my wish list!! I will get them if people highly recommend them!! like you just did! thanks! cris Re: Re: cervical dysplasia Have you read Dr. Lee's book, " What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Menopause " ? There's one on perimenopause too. I've only read the one on menopause. Excellent book. in Va. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I hope it helps! in Va. ----- In a message dated 6/8/2004 3:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, cubfan23@... writes: > Estrogen dominance can certainly cause these problems. > I do have some e-mails with info on this if you're interested Thanks ...but I actually have done a lot of research in the past on Estrogen Dominance when I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me...when the thyroid labs were " normal " . I have used natural progesterone cream with success before being diagnosed hypo. As I got sicker, I just sorta stopped it...but plan to get back on it now that I'm sorta stable with the Armour. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 , Please post the info on estrogen dominance?? I,m sure it would be a good thing for many , Re: cervical dysplasia I hope it helps! in Va. ----- In a message dated 6/8/2004 3:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, cubfan23@... writes: > Estrogen dominance can certainly cause these problems. > I do have some e-mails with info on this if you're interested Thanks ...but I actually have done a lot of research in the past on Estrogen Dominance when I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me...when the thyroid labs were " normal " . I have used natural progesterone cream with success before being diagnosed hypo. As I got sicker, I just sorta stopped it...but plan to get back on it now that I'm sorta stable with the Armour. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Hi, , When you mention natural alternatives, do you mean the bio-identical hormones? And she's saying the HRT prescription drugs gave her energy and got rid of the irritability and physical symptoms? Well, the natural progesterone is supposed to help the fibrocystic breasts. Taking estrogen without opposing progesterone gives you the higher chance of breast cancer. And the drug companies' HRT can give you a better chance for heart disease too. But not the natural bio-identical hormones. The natural progesterone should give her energy as well and I would think help with whatever symptoms she's talking about. I have a long list of symptoms caused by estrogen dominance. And using the natural progesterone helps. I used to have pain with my periods. But that went away after I had my first baby. I don't know why. in Va. ----- I'm counting on Armour to correct all these > things. > Cindi > >Thanks Cindi! Just curious if anyone else had these chronic problems. I remember when I was a kid, she would be doubled over in horrible pain from her periods. She used to have to take a drug called ponstan or something like that. She has had these abnormal paps off and on for many years. I asked her if they looked for HPV last summer and she didn't know, but said they checked for everything. She is on HRT and that really scares me because we already have those fibrocystic breasts. Taking HRT gives you a 100% high chance of getting breast cancer. SInce we are already predisposed with this lumpoy breat thing, I really want her to try some natural alternatives. She said she is reluctant because she was a complete mess before hormones and they gave her energy and got rid of some of the irritablility and physical symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 Hi, Cris, Thanks for sending this. It does look very good. I have seen this doctor's page on adrenals, I think it was. But I haven't read it all yet. But this looks excellent as well. I just sent my e-mails to you. You will see that yes, there's estrogen dominance and info on natural progesterone. One page is an interview with Dr. Lee and Dr. . Dr. Lee was the expert on progesterone and he coined the phrase " estrogen dominance " . Dr. is the expert on the estrogens. I found the interview with them very interesting. I hope you will find something there to be of some help to you. in Va. ----- Is this what your other e-mail was about? I'd love them please!! someone here mentioned I might have it. I found one really good web page - and it sounds a lot like me... http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/Estrogen_Dominance.cfm thanks! cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 Hi, Cris, Maybe you can check your local library? Or e-bay. I got this book on e-bay. in Va.----- no, I haven't. I ordered so many books about a month ago, I shut myself off! LOL I should get this - or put it on my wish list!! I will get them if people highly recommend them!! like you just did! thanks! cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 Well, sure. I wasn't sure if that was OK. in Va.----- , Please post the info on estrogen dominance?? I,m sure it would be a good thing for many , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I received them, thank you! now I need to read everything!! and try to comprehend it!! thank you!! Cris Re: cervical dysplasia Hi, Cris, Thanks for sending this. It does look very good. I have seen this doctor's page on adrenals, I think it was. But I haven't read it all yet. But this looks excellent as well. I just sent my e-mails to you. You will see that yes, there's estrogen dominance and info on natural progesterone. One page is an interview with Dr. Lee and Dr. . Dr. Lee was the expert on progesterone and he coined the phrase " estrogen dominance " . Dr. is the expert on the estrogens. I found the interview with them very interesting. I hope you will find something there to be of some help to you. in Va. ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I was just on amazon - I ordered 2 books - used ones. 1st time I've ordered, that it paid to go with used books. This is one I ordered. I still want the other mary shomon's book - but it wasn't a good deal used - so I'll wait to see if I buy any thing else - thru amazon, to get their free shipping. That one book that is almost $50.00 perhaps - if it is truly worth spending that much. The other book I just bought was the Thyroid solution. it was only available used. I've never used e-bay....I'm afraid of it!! LOL Cris Re: Re: cervical dysplasia Hi, Cris, Maybe you can check your local library? Or e-bay. I got this book on e-bay. in Va.----- no, I haven't. I ordered so many books about a month ago, I shut myself off! LOL I should get this - or put it on my wish list!! I will get them if people highly recommend them!! like you just did! thanks! cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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