Re: hello all... DHEA/synthetic t3/fertility

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In a message dated 6/3/2004 1:09:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

feemccormick@... writes:

> Does anybody here take DHEA or know which is the best to take & where

> to get it from? My doc suggested 25mgs DHEA per day

i just ordered some from www.drugstore.com. I like the Natrol supplements

and they had a DHEA at 25 mg.

Cindi

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--- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " feemccormick "

> He also advised me to take 1000 mcgs of vitamin B12 daily.<<<<

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I would like to suggest that you get the methyl B-12

(sublingual).....we get ours from iherb.com.....esp. if he thinks you

have absorption problems.....sue

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Hi fee

great to hear from you!

I took 7-keto DHEA for a month (25mg)...boy did it give me

energy!!!!!!However, I got horrible hair-loss...not sure if it was

the DHEA..( & -Keto isn't supposed to have that effect) and have

stopped it to see if my hair thickens up again. My energy levels

have dropped a bit though since I stopped taking it.

My doc isn't keen on it...not enough research on long term

effects..and as my GP is now prescribing me Armour I am being a

goody two shoes for a while and not taking anything " dubious " .

As for T3...I do know that the British manufactured stuff has a

reputation for being a bit dodgy...cytomel is supposed to be

better....

I'm glad your Aunt is getting treatment.

Off topic..DH has just prepared me a vegetable patch!!! Sowing seeds

tomorrow...sun please shine!

Love Fluffy

> Hi Janie, Topper, , Sheila, Caroline, Fluffy & everyone!

> I've not posted for ages I'm sorry, but I've been trying to keep

up

> with the daily digests.

> I just wanted to let you know how I'm doing and ask for your

advice

> about synthetic T3 and dhea.

> I'm currently on 4.5 grains of Armour & about to go up to 5. I

saw

> my special Doc yesterday & while I'm doing loads better, I still

have

> problems with sustaining energy and still get tired if I go out at

> all, so annoying.

> So, my doc thinks I may have an absorption problem as I'm on a

high

> dose but still have hypo symptoms & showing no signs of being

> overactive. I said I'd rather stick on Armour for now because

it's

> natural, but I'm considering the T3 & would be grateful for

anybody's

> opinion. He also advised me to take 1000 mcgs of vitamin B12 daily.

> I also asked about DHEA & he said he thought it was a good idea to

> help my libido & I've read it can help fertility.

> Does anybody here take DHEA or know which is the best to take &

where

> to get it from? My doc suggested 25mgs DHEA per day but I'd be

> really interested to know what anybody's experience with this is.

> Still haven't conceived... I'll be sure to post if it happens!

> Fee xxxxxxx

> ps My Aunty who I posted about ages ago came with me to spec

doc...

> if you remember she had a high T3, lowish T4 (still in range) and

a

> TSH of 5.75 on one occasion & 3.5 on another but loads of

symptoms.

> Doc confirmed she's underactive & is to get treatment, but I've no

> idea about the high T3 reading other than it's a false high. I'll

> report anything else of interest when I find out...

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HI Fee,

Glad you are back! I am sorry you are having such a hard time getting

prego. Hun, I have been there and it is very frustrating. What adds

more hurt to injury is not even wanting to do the deed. I still have

no sex drive and haven't for many years. I was so excited when I

thought that that would come back after starting thryoid meds. I guess

that takes time, huh? You poor thing! I hope you get to that optimal

level soon. I would like to see you post to us about a pregnancy. It

will happen, I just know it .

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I took 7-keto DHEA for a month (25mg)...boy did it give me

energy!!!!!!However, I got horrible hair-loss...not sure if it was

the DHEA..( & -Keto isn't supposed to have that effect) and have

stopped it to see if my hair thickens up again. My energy levels

have dropped a bit though since I stopped taking it.

Fluffy,

Wow, this is really interesting to me. I have been taking DHEA for years. I

recently upped my dose from 25mg to 50. I know that is high for a woman, but

I was having severe muscle problems since getting some of my mercury

fillings removed. The stirred up mercury caused my thyroid to crash. Anyway

at first, before I figured out what was happening to me, my legs were so

weak and painful, I could hardly move.. The extra DHEA, really gave me more

strength immediately. Anyway, I have also been loosing hair like crazy

lately. This is fairly new for me, especially to this extent. I was thinking

it was the thyroid, but even since increasing my armour from 1-2 grains the

hair is still falling out where it would be a reseeding hairline on a man.

Now since your post, I am wondering about the DHEA. I don't remember if hair

loss was mentioned as side effects. I thought growing hair, (like on your

face) was a possible effect.

Anyway, let me know if you can get the hair loss to stop. I will stop the

DHEA If that is the reason I am having it.

nne

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Hi nne,

I just lent my book Natural Hormone Balance by Uzzi Reiss to a friend

but from what I recall, DHEA boosts testosterone & hence causes hair

growth (in unwanted places) & I presume hair loss (in wanted

places!!)

In the author's experience he found women could only tolerate small

doses of DHEA because of side-effects, of which he lists a whole

load, and of which I can only remember hair growth & I think

sweating.

The reason I wanted to take it is to help libido (very hard to make

babies when you don't feel in the moood to do 'the deed' (!!

hehehe)

Also, the book says it can boost fertility & women to take as much as

they can tolerate to help in this area, hence my interest.

I am still not sure about supplementing with DHEA, I work out with

weights at the gym in an attempt to naturally increase testosterone

but am not sure it's working!

Just wanted to chip in with my thoughts.

Fee xxxxxx

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male pattern hair loss...temples...crown...is a side effect of DHEA

I'm afraid...however the 7-keto isn't supposed to do that..but I

wonder...my son's girlfriend has pointed out that her hair is

thinner too..it's spring and we moult...so she says!!!!!!!!

In that case...roll on winter........

...but also..any metabolic change can affect hair loss...so I guess

it's trial and error!

Love...and long glossy locks wished to you.....Fluffy

> hair is still falling out where it would be a reseeding hairline

on a man.

> Now since your post, I am wondering about the DHEA. I don't

remember if hair

> loss was mentioned as side effects. I thought growing hair, (like

on your

> face) was a possible effect.

> Anyway, let me know if you can get the hair loss to stop. I will

stop the

> DHEA If that is the reason I am having it.

> nne

>

>

>

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male pattern hair loss...temples...crown...is a side effect of DHEA

I'm afraid...however the 7-keto isn't supposed to do that..

Thanks Fluffy, I am cutting back to 25 mg. today!

I had no problems with that amount.

The 7 keto is so much more expensive, and I already spend more than

believable on supplements. Mostly to help me feel better which is more than

likely due to low thyroid!!!!

nne

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I LOVE the Natrol products because they come in capsule form, not those hard

tablets. This is the general capsule I take---Hair, Skin, and Nails. I won't

take the Women's one because it has things that block the thyroid hormone in it.

Re: hello all... DHEA/synthetic t3/fertility

i just ordered some from www.drugstore.com. I like the Natrol supplements

and they had a DHEA at 25 mg.

Cindi